Killing bosses as pacifist

[Bumc]

Just wondering if its possible on danger 5.
Danger 0 its doable with potato throwers, but it took me about 60 seconds in a relatively lucky run to off one boss and I don't think the strat works for two.

[Finvaara]

Pacifist is just plain hard. I killed the boss on 0 with submachine guns, and on 2 with etheral axes. Haven't tried anything higher than that, but my strategy has been to just lay on all the damage and accept the suffering that comes with it, and choose one type of damage, so I can tank the others on costs if I need to.

[Bumc]

My idea was that you cannot really scale any flat damage type or crit, because you already have to repair %damage.
The problem is that shields don't make sense to switch to late, potato launchers don't deal any damage without ridiculous economy and multiple paddings, and nuclear launchers/hammers don't really kill bosses too well.

[thunda]

No way possible, I just tried 5 times. You dont have money to fix your %dmg and at the same time buy enough survivability that you dont just die

[Bumc]

You also can kill most of the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ in waves with flamethrower even with negative damage. And it also gives good restoration with lifesteal and grants some economy (1 material from a kill is better than 0.65 from passive).

So maybe the build path is hands -> early lucky flamer (pre-9) -> rockets/nuclears.
5 tries isn't nearly enough, if the challenge is doable its more like 1% build of fishing for some kind of miracle.

[Shbnfc]

I managed to get a win with both bosses killed, I got explosive damage+ items to try to roll for nukes, but I never got any. Worked out anyway, had both bosses dead around the 10-5 second mark.

https://imgur.com/a/yL15xry

The *screenshot* uploader is bugged for me, but here's how the end screen looked.

[thunda]

Originally posted by Shbnfc:

I managed to get a win with both bosses killed, I got explosive damage+ items to try to roll for nukes, but I never got any. Worked out anyway, had both bosses dead around the 10-5 second mark.

https://imgur.com/a/yL15xry

The *screenshot* uploader is bugged for me, but here's how the end screen looked.

Oh yeah the explosives, but damn thats a lucky run. Good job though, no way I'm grinding this

[Azael]

Originally posted by Shbnfc:

I managed to get a win with both bosses killed, I got explosive damage+ items to try to roll for nukes, but I never got any. Worked out anyway, had both bosses dead around the 10-5 second mark.

https://imgur.com/a/yL15xry

The *screenshot* uploader is bugged for me, but here's how the end screen looked.

I'm confused, which explosives are we talking about?

Also tried some run earlier, Tried with Hand + Snakes + Sausage into Flamenthrower sadly was not tanky enough and did not have enough damage to survive W14... Thou was quite the lucky run with 4 Snakes and 3 Sausages.

[Shbnfc]

Originally posted by Azael:

Originally posted by Shbnfc:

I managed to get a win with both bosses killed, I got explosive damage+ items to try to roll for nukes, but I never got any. Worked out anyway, had both bosses dead around the 10-5 second mark.

https://imgur.com/a/yL15xry

The *screenshot* uploader is bugged for me, but here's how the end screen looked.

I'm confused, which explosives are we talking about?

Also tried some run earlier, Tried with Hand + Snakes + Sausage into Flamenthrower sadly was not tanky enough and did not have enough damage to survive W14... Thou was quite the lucky run with 4 Snakes and 3 Sausages.

The 3x explosive damage items.

Originally posted by thunda:

Oh yeah the explosives, but damn thats a lucky run. Good job though, no way I'm grinding this

I didn't feel the last run was super lucky, but definitely not UNlucky. I got the first flamethrower kind of late (like wave 12-13 or something). Anyway, I did another run, got a much earlier flamethrower and actually got a couple nukes. Both bosses comfortably killed around the 30 second mark.

https://imgur.com/a/mxTAP9s

[Azael]

Well, yeah. But you could not really use them.

I guess, i'm doing something wrong. I keep dying to Elites. Maybe I should try Taser again... Hands into Flamethrower might be too greedy.

[Bumc]

Alright I guess tasers are the start huh. They are like 1.5x more expensive and give less harvesting than hands so Im surprising to see them working.

[Shbnfc]

I started with a hand in both runs, but tasers show rather often due to being support.

[Azael]

Wave10 is rather hard with Tasers, instead of hands. Don't have enough damage for Wave 10. Can only survive with good movement ...


Shbnfc, how do you get through the early waves? Either I focus too much on early damage to not fall behind later, or I don't buy damage early, but get overrun later.
I need really good RNG and insane dodge skill to get first elite/wave. Best runs, I'm sure were because dodge saved me.

[Azael]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3003129997

Another Run where I had really good RNG, but nowwhere near good enough.

[booQorm]

My guess will be: get Giant Belt + Flamethrowers, and as much crit and attack speed as you can. With Giant Belt you crit bosses by 1% of their hp, and given that damage and the immense attack speed of flamethrowers, you will get a crit every that often. You need to be enormously lucky for all that to happen at once, though, unless you use rainbow boxes.

[Bumc]

Yeah the giant belt plan is a huge stretch, I barely ever see that item pre-20. And you'd have to invest in crit for it to matter. Yikes