土豆兄弟(Brotato)

土豆兄弟(Brotato)

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Azael 2023 年 6 月 26 日 上午 6:59
Fisherman builds
So, I did D5 Fisherman today, however I kinda struggled hard with him. Played him with Sticks, but finally won with Spears. However at no point in the run it was easy going. I got hit so often and so hard, that I had to rely on Armor + Max Dodge + Adrenaline and High HP regen to survive. Initial Onslaught was never a problem, but later in the wave the spawned fish-mobs (?) accumulated and I basically was only trying to survive.

How did you guys do fisherman? Was it also hard?
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Bumc 2023 年 6 月 27 日 上午 9:47 
Any economy potato like Entrepreneur, Farmer or Demon.
The %damage will be lower, but the overall dps will be higher with all the multipliers you can gather from items like bounce, pen or crit. And with better weapons in general.
XP 2023 年 6 月 27 日 上午 10:12 
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2995484099

this is my first time done it with fisher man. this character is hard one for me at first. I don't have confident to deal with swarms and only buy few baits when first try this character. but when I rush a little in early, I done it. xD

for me, first shop is very important. if the shop offer spear without re-roll then you get another spear after first re-roll (you have 3 spears at this point) you can buy as many baits in first shop. the 2nd wave is easy, because the projectile damage is small, you can tank many projectile. if the shop not offer the spear before you re-roll, and you only have 2 spears you only can buy up to 2 baits. with 2 spears you will kill the swarm slower than 3 spears. after that you just need to buy as many bait to increase damage until you can 1 shot all the special monster. at wave 6, I have 15 baits and enough to 1 shot the swarm.

my micro quite suck, i'm play safe many time. i can have 70+ if I have more confident. xD
最后由 XP 编辑于; 2023 年 6 月 27 日 上午 10:18
thunda 2023 年 6 月 27 日 上午 10:36 
Spears or Sticks, buy 2 Baits per wave starting from first wave, then keep buying more baits. I was buying 5-7 baits in later waves. Spears are probably easier/better

Doesnt matter how many of them were spawning, they died immediately
最后由 thunda 编辑于; 2023 年 6 月 27 日 上午 10:37
Shbnfc 2023 年 6 月 27 日 下午 3:42 
Sticks, focus on econ and durability, buy every bait :D
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2995608272
It's an endless run so I screenshotted before entering wave 20.
Azael 2023 年 6 月 27 日 下午 3:53 
Hmm, guess I have to try it again sometime. Maybe I had to low attack speed, since damage was not an issue, but I couldn't clear enough
HeraldOfOpera 2023 年 6 月 27 日 下午 7:36 
引用自 Azael
Hmm, guess I have to try it again sometime. Maybe I had to low attack speed, since damage was not an issue, but I couldn't clear enough
Yeah, attack speed is something you'll want to focus on because the Bait will provide all the per-hit damage and economy you'll probably need.
TheUnluckyOne 2024 年 2 月 8 日 下午 2:38 
I heard from somewhere that you have to run at the edge of the map and "kite" them, but that doesn't work because they shoot diagonally, so you are always running into their projectiles.
ajohnemus 2024 年 2 月 9 日 上午 11:12 
I specifically wanted to beat fisherman while buying at least 3-4 baits every wave(even wave 2) with Shredders.

I died many, many times but once you get to wave 10 you're overpowered damage wise.
That Fish Guy 2024 年 2 月 9 日 下午 2:11 
I'm 83/84 achievements, cannot get the fisherman for the life of me, I've tried many baits early, I've tried 1 bait per store, I've tried getting bait after becoming a bit powerful, I've tried no bait at all. My best run has been round 19 difficulty 1. Most end around round 11. Shredder+wrench has been the best weapon combo so far.
VisionofFire 2024 年 2 月 9 日 下午 3:16 
引用自 That Fish Guy
I'm 83/84 achievements, cannot get the fisherman for the life of me

Short answer, quickest solution is to try something that you know works. If you're flailing around mixing builds, you won't know whether you're losing because your build is wrong, or because you're not playing it correctly. Mixing Wrenches in a Shredder build is just handicapping yourself for no good reason.

Aros Rising Brotato Character Guide[docs.google.com]

Guide above has recommendations and tips for how to play Fisherman. Treat them as rough guidelines, if you need more generic advice on how to prioritize upgrades / items, refer to Aros' general guide, or use an item tier list.

As mentioned in the guide, there's a very specific way to dodge the initial wave of Lampreys spawned by taking 4+ bait. YT video of any experienced Fisherman player, or Twitch Streamer will show you how it's done, then spend 5-10 min practicing so that you can replicate it consistently in your own runs. Once you get over threshold and your weapons can clear the initial rush head on, Fisherman is straight forward to play. Melee Fisherman has an easier early game, but needs to watch out for Wave 14-15, shooters that get out of control can corner a low range melee Fisherman.
最后由 VisionofFire 编辑于; 2024 年 2 月 9 日 下午 3:22
Germaine's Bra 2024 年 2 月 9 日 下午 5:47 
引用自 Azael
So, I did D5 Fisherman today, however I kinda struggled hard with him. Played him with Sticks, but finally won with Spears. However at no point in the run it was easy going. I got hit so often and so hard, that I had to rely on Armor + Max Dodge + Adrenaline and High HP regen to survive. Initial Onslaught was never a problem, but later in the wave the spawned fish-mobs (?) accumulated and I basically was only trying to survive.

How did you guys do fisherman? Was it also hard?

Explosives, Nuke launchers are great, and smgs I ended up with 3 of each, you buy as many bait you can stand every round and damage begins to one shot everything
AN 2024 年 2 月 15 日 上午 9:11 
It occurred to me that the overlapping explosions from shredders should be very effective against the initial horde, and it was even better than I expected. As long as you can dodge well enough to not get devoured on round 2/3/4, your damage ramps very well even with low ranged damage(I managed just fine with only 2 for quite a while). The constant small squads of leeches spawning can get a little tricky in the midgame, but you'll start evaporating them by round 15 or so.

Even with Croc chasing my ass around on 11 it wasn't too much of a struggle, since elites fall so fast even to AoE focused weapons on Fisherman. This is definitely on of the weapons you have to go all in on baits to stay ahead of the curve, but you don't even need to be lucky in your shop/levels. In my experience spears, the recognized king fisher weapon, can really struggle if you don't get early melee damage, but I got very little ranged damage for the majority of the game and still came through without much struggle.
VisionofFire 2024 年 2 月 15 日 上午 9:56 
引用自 AN
In my experience spears, the recognized king fisher weapon, can really struggle if you don't get early melee damage,

This I would disagree with. The biggest advantage to starting Spear Fisherman imo is you don't have to stay in Spears unlike Sticks, especially early game where the immediate priority is to put 6 weapons on the table ASAP. You can take Rock, Cacti Club early so you can start slamming Baits, then swap them out later. Fisherman is probably one of the few classes I'm genuinely happy to see Rock as a weapon show up, as it's cheap frontloaded damage, which makes it excellent against the initial Lamprey rush. Lance is also functionally nearly identical to Spear. If you're open to just taking any reasonable weapon, you can easily skip taking melee damage early at all. And if you're slamming 4+ baits per round, there really isn't much difference between say 4 Spears and 6 Spears.
最后由 VisionofFire 编辑于; 2024 年 2 月 15 日 上午 10:02
B the Self 2024 年 2 月 17 日 下午 10:00 
why use a simple spear when you can use some cool revolvers to fish ?
https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/2235535765183369459/F557851190BCC078BF464359A4DE360B46510BCC/




Shields are the most easy ones to win, you won't take damage and you will do tons
最后由 B the Self 编辑于; 2024 年 2 月 17 日 下午 10:02
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