Farmer wave 400 and still alive

[CHICKEN]

First of all i have to say that my english is not so good and that's why i work with the google translator.

I think I beat endless mode because I'll probably be able to hold out for hundreds more waves. Maybe wave 1000+ too, but I'll probably stop the run here because it's getting boring.

I've read in other threads that you can only get this far with a lot of hunting trophies and a lot of paddings, but I don't think that will be enough if you want to survive several hundred waves.

as you can see in the screenshot, the hunting trophies only yielded 3.37 out of 10.58 million materials. I got the rest of the materials from the 32 gardens and from selling crates.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2937648294

The gardens are a very important source of income for materials (only Farmer). In combination with the improved tools and a very high attack speed, the gardens have a very fast respawn rate.
with 4400 attack speed, I get a fruit per garden about every 0.7-0.8 seconds.
Although you lose 10% harvest per Wave, you can compensate for this with many Gardens and a high attack speed.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2937648306

Here are my harvesting values for the individual waves:
Wave 20: 4500 harvesting
Wave 30: 2500 harvesting
Wave 70: 6000 harvesting
Wave 200: 13000 harvesting
Wave 400: 24000 harvesting
After wave 20, the harvesting decreases for a while and then increases again in wave 30-40 if you take all the gardens with you and skill a lot of attack speed.

I have to say that I stopped collecting the gardens at 32 gardens because it became too laggy at the end of each wave (I have massive performance problems and many crashes after each wave because you collect 2400 fruits in 1 second). If I had taken all the gardens with me, I would definitely have 50-60 gardens by now, which would then also bring in 40-50k harvesting,

VERY important: in order to keep the harvesting value up, you must not be damaged! that's why you need a lot of tardigrades. my 27 tardigrades are enough that I don't get any damage for the first 50-60 hits. If I got a hit with damage 1 time, I would immediately lose the entire farm yield for this wave (-10%)
That means, thanks to the tardigrades, I haven't been damaged once in the last 350+ waves.

another important point is the damage:
my 6 potato cannons aren't the only damage dealers!

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2937648321

I probably wouldn't have made it to wave 400 with just potato cannons.
The spicy sauce (the damage also scales with life) in combination with a very large explosion size kills everything when you collect several fruits in a row.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2937648346

The good thing is that there are tons of fruit on the floor because I produce 2400 fruits per wave.
the explosion size is almost as big as the screen and just kills everything in 0.1 second no matter if there are 10, 30 or 100 bosses.

The downside is that kills with explosions aren't critical hits and you won't get any materials from the hunting trophies.
But I have the 32 gardens that produce enough material for that.

Finally, I would like to briefly address the third source of income for materials, which will only become relevant after wave 200-300: selling crates
each wave of bosses brings with it more and more bosses that all drop a crate and you can sell the crates for more and more materials.
In wave 400 i get about 30k-60k materials per boss wave by selling crates and i think that maybe from wave 800 or 1000+ this will become the main source of income for materials.

[Deathraven13]

Good job, getting to wave 400 alone is no easy feat, here it took us days and 3 of us to reach wave 1000.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2935512827

And some people say that endless mode is bad and unbalanced lmao, they just don't understand how the game work that's all.

The lag was pretty horrible and that didn't surprise us because we worked on an endless mod and a higher difficulty mod (private request), so what you saw here is something we have seen a while ago. I've said it before that Godot engine as it's limit and as it is won't support any co-op/multiplayer mode, not that devs intended that anyway.

Well your post prove once again that endless mode is fine the way it is, it's just that most players didn't figure how to go above wave 100, no wonder why people don't believe me when I tell them that I have a 100% winrate on D5 and I say D5 is just too easy, they don't understand how the game work so when I say that the game is unbalanced they don't understand, hopefully your post will open their eyes.

[Cacato]

How exactly do you manage to get to 4500 harvesting by round 20 ? From my experience you can play a 100 waves and not see some specific items not even once in the shop, so how many gardens did you have by round 20 and did you use pruners before switching them to potato throwers ?

[Deathraven13]

Originally posted by Cacato:

How exactly do you manage to get to 4500 harvesting by round 20 ? From my experience you can play a 100 waves and not see some specific items not even once in the shop, so how many gardens did you have by round 20 and did you use pruners before switching them to potato throwers ?

You kinda answer your own question, getting to 4500 harvesting may depend on your luck, if you are unlucky then congratulations that's how Brotato is: heavy RNG.

I suppose some youtubers already put the build.

[Super_Fluff]

what weapon you start with? pruner?

[thunda]

Youre so fking lucky to get so many copies of those items. Like ridiculously lucky. So lucky that I think youre using mods.

[Deathraven13]

Originally posted by thunda:

Youre so fking lucky to get so many copies of those items. Like ridiculously lucky. So lucky that I think youre using mods.

You can't even reach wave 400 on your own so how would you tell that OP modded their game ? I'd like to see some proofs.

[Irie]

Originally posted by Super_Fluff:

what weapon you start with? pruner?

I would start pruner and only think about switching to potato throwers once you have a few Gardens. Honestly you probably arent switching to throwers until wave 30+, cause there is just no reason to, better to have the free gardens still pumping your harvesting as much as you can.

[Exxze]

Originally posted by Deathraven13:

Originally posted by thunda:

Youre so fking lucky to get so many copies of those items. Like ridiculously lucky. So lucky that I think youre using mods.

You can't even reach wave 400 on your own so how would you tell that OP modded their game ? I'd like to see some proofs.

whats your proof for wave 1000+ tho?

[Cacato]

@KevinNyro, Dude watch your tongue, don't you understand, you're talking to Mr.100% winrate on Danger 5 himself

[Deathraven13]

Originally posted by KevinNyro:

whats your proof for wave 1000+ tho?

Here you go: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2935512827

Originally posted by Cacato:

@KevinNyro, Dude watch your tongue, don't you understand, you're talking to Mr.100% winrate on Danger 5 himself

Many players have a 100% winrate on D5, it's not very hard to do.

[Barney Nuphar]

Originally posted by Deathraven13:

Originally posted by KevinNyro:

whats your proof for wave 1000+ tho?

Here you go: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2935512827

Originally posted by Cacato:

@KevinNyro, Dude watch your tongue, don't you understand, you're talking to Mr.100% winrate on Danger 5 himself :lunar2019laughingpig:

Many players have a 100% winrate on D5, it's not very hard to do.

Do you mean 100% on all characters or specific characters ? I can pretty much win 100% on a few characters but still struggle so much on many of them to win more than 50-70% of the runs.

[thunda]

Originally posted by Barney Nuphar:

Originally posted by Deathraven13:

Here you go: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2935512827



Many players have a 100% winrate on D5, it's not very hard to do.

Do you mean 100% on all characters or specific characters ? I can pretty much win 100% on a few characters but still struggle so much on many of them to win more than 50-70% of the runs.

He means across all characters, a completely ridiculous claim as is usual for him. Nobody has that. Unless they beat D5 a few times and then quit playing.

[Deathraven13]

Originally posted by Barney Nuphar:

Do you mean 100% on all characters or specific characters ? I can pretty much win 100% on a few characters but still struggle so much on many of them to win more than 50-70% of the runs.

100% on all characters. (I only play them once to D5 them and unlock their stuff).

Most players understand how to win during their climb to D5 and in the end without a guide or having seen other people play most will struggle with D0 because they have no knowledge of the game. With knowledge on how the game work and how to abuse the unbalance they win easily despite of the characters. (Like arms dealer for exemple, some say that he his hard to win with but you can just focus on damage and going with the regular plan, you just waste a bit of cash because you need to buy weapons all the time but Arms Dealer bonus are far from bad).

You are confirming it in some ways "I can pretty much win 100% on a few characters [...]", so the hard part was beating D0 to D4 without having much knowledge, then it's easy because you know how to play, it's like with most games: The first time you may not be very good at it but with more knowledge you actualy get better, like with a die and retry game.

As you may have seen some players can be jealous when I say that I have a 100% winrate on D5 but what would be "a completely ridiculous claim" would be if I said that I have a 100%, a 100% on all Danger level, that's not the case since like most people I had to learn the game and I've seen many newbies struggle to beat D0, I've struggled too but by the time I was playing D5 I understood how to build around any situation (The game is RNG heavy so you can't plan your build as perfectly as you want, you'll have to adapt), wich mean I've gained enough knowledge and managed to be able to adapt when playing D0 to D4, once you know how to build the game isn't very hard nor extremely different from D4 to D5 because the game doesn't requiere a high skill level (patterns are simple, no hazards that instantly kill you, no difficult inputs to do with a small frame time between each inputs).

So there are at least two type of players from that point: They've beaten D0 to D4 without fully understanding the game and with less trouble then struggled a bit on D5, then you have players that struggled during D0 to D4 but understood the game perfectly before reaching D5 (I'm here).

We can see that since I can reach wave 100 without much trouble while a person I've mentionned above can't because they don't know how to properly build in endless mode, because they can't adapt to it yet so they'll have to see guides from a better player in order to improve.

To resume: The gap between a good player and a bad player is the knowledge of the game and how they can adapt, comparing the person i've mentionned again with myself we build differently, with the help of 2 friends we have reached wave 1000 after many days (and a lot of lags) as you can see, on my own I can reach wave 100 (but i doubt that my PC could handle wave 1000) because of my way of building. Ask that person and they will tell you that in D5 Luck and healing on getting mats is good, dodge is a trap stat along HP regen, yet for me it's the opposite: I prefer harvesting over luck, the only healing stat I take is HP regen because more would be overkill, and as an XCOM player I know that even with a 90% chance to hit you can still miss, so dodge is important later (don't go trying to max dodge from wave 1 to 11 as some other player tried lol). In endless mode the build is different so I adapted, that's the huge difference between good players and the others.

If you don't agree with what I've said feel free to tell me as I may learn something, also do note that builds may change depending of characters obviously so I don't go full glass canon on Pacifist for exemple lmao.

[Lt. Friendly Fire]

Originally posted by Deathraven13:

Originally posted by thunda:

Youre so fking lucky to get so many copies of those items. Like ridiculously lucky. So lucky that I think youre using mods.

You can't even reach wave 400 on your own so how would you tell that OP modded their game ? I'd like to see some proofs.

Maybe I'm not understanding something here but OP has more of certain limited items than the game would usually allow. Isn't that enough proof that the game is moded?

[Bumc]

its an old thread and since then patches nerfed this strategy.