Elite are way to powerful

[Meister_Ente]

The Elites are way to strong to be fought in Wave ~12. I think it would be better to have a horde on wave ~12 in every run and an elite in wave -16 or so.

[thunda]

Theyre not too strong, your build is just too weak. Or youre playing a class that has no business trying to fight them, fight the mobs and ignore the elite.

[adem]

good idea!

[Prometheus]

It depends on the elite. The ram and the egg layer aren't a big deal. The chef though is one of the most common causes of lost runs for me. Its attack lines happen dramatically more often than the attacks from the other elites. They are also oppressively fast to fire so they are hard to respond to. A quarter of a second longer delay before its lines fire would help a lot.

[Nogan]

Some characters are really bad versus certain elites or elites in general. I won't even bother fighting them with artificer, for example.

The same can also be said of hordes, though. The only reason I'd argue for consistency is that you can just restart until getting a favorable seed.

[Jaasrg]

Originally posted by Nogan:

Some characters are really bad versus certain elites or elites in general. I won't even bother fighting them with artificer, for example.

Reasoning?
Artificer sounds great against elites considering you just have to hit somewhere there and explosions take care of rest.

[thunda]

Originally posted by Jaasrg:

Originally posted by Nogan:

Some characters are really bad versus certain elites or elites in general. I won't even bother fighting them with artificer, for example.

Reasoning?
Artificer sounds great against elites considering you just have to hit somewhere there and explosions take care of rest.

Not enough single target DPS.

Artificer is all about big explosions with ok dmg and relatively low attack speeds. It mops up the trash mobs like no tomorrow, but cant really put the hurt on elites or bosses. Atleast not without the Hoodie

[Y2Kafka]

Originally posted by Promethian:

It depends on the elite. The ram and the egg layer aren't a big deal. The chef though is one of the most common causes of lost runs for me. Its attack lines happen dramatically more often than the attacks from the other elites. They are also oppressively fast to fire so they are hard to respond to. A quarter of a second longer delay before its lines fire would help a lot.

Butcher/Chef for an elite is just... UGGGHHH. At least 80% of my Danger 5 Losses are due to this bastard. Like you can't get away from it's attack pattern and one hit tends to do crazy damage. Your only real course of action is to load up on dodge/armor/health, get lucky that it's on wave 15 (relatively weak wave), or hope you don't encounter it at all.

Please make it stop. Just give it a range limit or something so we can just kite away. Please.

[thunda]

Originally posted by Y2Kafka:

Originally posted by Promethian:

It depends on the elite. The ram and the egg layer aren't a big deal. The chef though is one of the most common causes of lost runs for me. Its attack lines happen dramatically more often than the attacks from the other elites. They are also oppressively fast to fire so they are hard to respond to. A quarter of a second longer delay before its lines fire would help a lot.

Butcher/Chef for an elite is just... UGGGHHH. At least 80% of my Danger 5 Losses are due to this bastard. Like you can't get away from it's attack pattern and one hit tends to do crazy damage. Your only real course of action is to load up on dodge/armor/health, get lucky that it's on wave 15 (relatively weak wave), or hope you don't encounter it at all.

Please make it stop. Just give it a range limit or something so we can just kite away. Please.

You dont have to get away from its attack pattern. Just keep moving in small steps, its easy. And you dont need to load up on armor/hp/dodge, you just need dps to keep the other trash mobs off of you.

[まこちゃん(已黑化)]

lol