Mage never gets Flamethrower in Shop

[BlueEyesLX]

I'm trying to win Mage on Danger 5 for many tries now.
Everyone is suggesting playing Mage with Flamethrower cause it should be super easy.
I have tried over 10 times now, everytime getting to Wave 15-19. And I did not get even once a single Flamethrower in the shop.
How super unlucky can it be?

[HighDensityLipo]

It happens, just some bad luck. I get it all the time. I had the same issue w/ the sniper for a while. I unlocked it and then it felt like the only time I stumbled upon it was when I was going for a melee build. Eventually it started dropping w/ my ranged builds. So, keep playing, and it will drop. Although, you don't need it to beat Danger 5 on mage. It is good but you can win w/ any combo of elemental weapons or 6 tasers/wands. Hammer harvest/luck early and then get as much elemental damage and attack speed as you can during middle waves. Wait until near the end to start getting some survivability. If you still having trouble, watch a couple streamers and focus on their stat choices/weapon choices and the timing of everything.

[thunda]

I get Flamethrowers whenever I dont play elemental weapon build. When I do, (like Demon starting with Tasers), or Mage, I dont see flamethrower either.

Last time I tried I got ONE Flamethrower after wave 19 with mage, having spent about 4000 materials on rerolls in total that run for the singular goal of getting a flamethrower or two.

Same thing happens with Sniper Guns for Hunter. Go ahead try that.

Dev broke this system.

[Drifter]

You don't really need flamethrower. Here is a recent game I did with the mage. I turned down red flamethrower and many others this game because I couldn't be bothered. It was a super easy game with huge clear speed and good boss dmg. Flamethrower a good weapon, but it's not needed to win with the mage.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2894817097

[BlueEyesLX]

Thank you all very much for your comments. It's good to hear that I'm not the only one having struggles with this problem. That helps alot. :)

I will try out your tips and probably when the game recognizes it, it will give me the flamethrower as I am not trying to get it anymore. :D

[BlueEyesLX]

And that's it (if you don't go for it, you'll get it - second try btw):

https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/1934888154887111850/9B4AFBD28CA2AD3D4D422BF18FD7507932A721EC/?imw=5000&imh=5000&ima=fit&impolicy=Letterbox&imcolor=%23000000&letterbox=false


Btw. I don't know, why there is no preview to the screenshot...

[Cacato]

I've noticed something similar with the Farmer and shuriken, I completed round 1 and rerolled the shop until I had no money then restarted the run and not a single shuriken appeared after 20 tries. They seemed to appear extremely rarely starting from round 3 and above tho. Not sure how or what could cause this kind of behaviour but the "randomness" feels very weird sometimes.

There's also an overabundance of items with other classes too, the most flagrant for me is the demon class with whom I gets way too many ghost scepters, talking about at least 1 per fresh shop (the first shop after completing a round) then 1 every 2 reroll max. The Knight seems to be getting a ton of spiked shield very easily too, about 1 per 2 shop.

Have you guys noticed any pattern, similar or not, with some classes and weapons ?

[Bumc]

The random is weighted for all characters differently, but there is no way to check in detail unless you dig through the code.

Can only assume that flamethrower isn't tagged for mage and maybe isn't tagged correctly for elemental. Starting with heavy weapons seems like a much easier way of getting offered a flamethrower.

As for why shields are tagged for knight despite having negative synergy dunno, flavor reasons?