Help a beginner

[Gobblebird]

Hey everyone,

I played now roughly 3 hours and can't get past wave 13/14 with any cha so far... any advice?

[Wadowicki Goblin]

There's no advice, newest patch completely ♥♥♥♥♥♥ difficulty. I have been unable to beat Danger 5 with any character in over 30 runs.

[Gohanno DOWN]

In the beginning, the randomize cost is very cheap so abuse it to get very fast the weapons that you want for your build
Then always pick some HP max and damages and choose between a build regen + armor or a build attack speed + life steal

[Irie]

Originally posted by Jobin:

There's no advice, newest patch completely ♥♥♥♥♥♥ difficulty. I have been unable to beat Danger 5 with any character in over 30 runs.

I am sure this person is asking about advice for D5 after only just picking up the game and not having a win yet. What a dumb comment.

To the OP, defenses are very important. Don't skip them. Weapons can be combined if you get 2 of the same rarity. That will uptier them from white > blue > purple > red. It is generally better to make sure you have 6 weapons than to combine them. After that you should combine as you get more weapons later. You are usually better off focusing on 1 or 2 weapons, combining them up as high as possible. For example most people will end with 6 red / purple of all the same weapon, say shotguns etc. Weapons have tags, so if you have 6 "Gun" tagged weapons, they will increase your weapon range by 50 (I think this is from memory).

[Mike]

Try the guides section.

[dholland]

Speed, armor, dodge, attack speed, flat damage pay off right away, as does metal detector, more trees, lumberjack shirt, etc. Luck, damage% pays off long term. Flamethrower is the best weapon combined with lifesteal (check out my D5 loud win in the wins thread which has commentary on this) but slingshot is the best ranged weapon IF your tato can start with it like loud and one-armed. Actually, slingshot is only really good at purple or red, before that SMG is better, but eventually the number of bounces and higher shot damage wins. The best melee weapons are sword, hammer and circular saw IF your tato can start with them, which only knight can. Still, any tato that can take all melee weapons without penalty and seems to be able to get sword or hammer or saw when luck is reasonable is good taking them. Guns are less good because of the lack of AoE that melee weapons have. Yes, there's shredder and rocket-launcher, but they are so slow firing as to be less valuable compared with fast flamethrower and saw and lifesteal.

[One Man Army]

Each character has a theme or direction, so try focusing on weapons and stats that synergize with it.

Your first 4-5waves you want to focus completely on just getting 6 weapons.
Usually of the same kind. The more you have of the same kind the more chance of getting that particular weapon again you have.
Don't buy anything else on those waves, unless it's Coffee, Trees or lumberjack shirt.

Generally up to wave 10-12 you want to focus on increasing your damage, attack speed and weapon level upgrade over survival stats.
Try getting your movement speed to 10% at least too and luck to 10.

It's very important to be able to kill the small enemies with one hit.
The faster you kill them the faster they respawn and you snowball with more income.
After that try to balance out damage and start increasing your survival stats more.

Try using full Slingshots if you are playing a ranged character or full Fists or Sticks for a melee character, they are really strong and scale well.
If your character doesn't start with one and you want one, you can just sell your weapon at the first shop and reroll until you get one.
If you don't get the one you want simply restart the run.

[Salmon Snake]

Originally posted by Jobin:

There's no advice, newest patch completely ♥♥♥♥♥♥ difficulty. I have been unable to beat Danger 5 with any character in over 30 runs.

Its much easier than before, I clear d5 on respawn, no offence but its literally a skill issue.

[Jex]

Originally posted by Salmon Snake:

Originally posted by Jobin:

There's no advice, newest patch completely ♥♥♥♥♥♥ difficulty. I have been unable to beat Danger 5 with any character in over 30 runs.

Its much easier than before, I clear d5 on respawn, no offence but its literally a skill issue.

Press X to doubt

[Jex]

For well rounded I think it's prob better to be a hybrid. Focus on 2 things instead of one. Try to do something that no other character can. Haven't beat him a 2nd time so ignore this

[Gobblebird]

Originally posted by Gohanno DOWN:

In the beginning, the randomize cost is very cheap so abuse it to get very fast the weapons that you want for your build
Then always pick some HP max and damages and choose between a build regen + armor or a build attack speed + life steal

Originally posted by Irie:

Originally posted by Jobin:

There's no advice, newest patch completely ♥♥♥♥♥♥ difficulty. I have been unable to beat Danger 5 with any character in over 30 runs.

I am sure this person is asking about advice for D5 after only just picking up the game and not having a win yet. What a dumb comment.

To the OP, defenses are very important. Don't skip them. Weapons can be combined if you get 2 of the same rarity. That will uptier them from white > blue > purple > red. It is generally better to make sure you have 6 weapons than to combine them. After that you should combine as you get more weapons later. You are usually better off focusing on 1 or 2 weapons, combining them up as high as possible. For example most people will end with 6 red / purple of all the same weapon, say shotguns etc. Weapons have tags, so if you have 6 "Gun" tagged weapons, they will increase your weapon range by 50 (I think this is from memory).

Originally posted by dholland:

Speed, armor, dodge, attack speed, flat damage pay off right away, as does metal detector, more trees, lumberjack shirt, etc. Luck, damage% pays off long term. Flamethrower is the best weapon combined with lifesteal (check out my D5 loud win in the wins thread which has commentary on this) but slingshot is the best ranged weapon IF your tato can start with it like loud and one-armed. Actually, slingshot is only really good at purple or red, before that SMG is better, but eventually the number of bounces and higher shot damage wins. The best melee weapons are sword, hammer and circular saw IF your tato can start with them, which only knight can. Still, any tato that can take all melee weapons without penalty and seems to be able to get sword or hammer or saw when luck is reasonable is good taking them. Guns are less good because of the lack of AoE that melee weapons have. Yes, there's shredder and rocket-launcher, but they are so slow firing as to be less valuable compared with fast flamethrower and saw and lifesteal.

Originally posted by One Man Army:

Each character has a theme or direction, so try focusing on weapons and stats that synergize with it.

Your first 4-5waves you want to focus completely on just getting 6 weapons.
Usually of the same kind. The more you have of the same kind the more chance of getting that particular weapon again you have.
Don't buy anything else on those waves, unless it's Coffee, Trees or lumberjack shirt.

Generally up to wave 10-12 you want to focus on increasing your damage, attack speed and weapon level upgrade over survival stats.
Try getting your movement speed to 10% at least too and luck to 10.

It's very important to be able to kill the small enemies with one hit.
The faster you kill them the faster they respawn and you snowball with more income.
After that try to balance out damage and start increasing your survival stats more.

Try using full Slingshots if you are playing a ranged character or full Fists or Sticks for a melee character, they are really strong and scale well.
If your character doesn't start with one and you want one, you can just sell your weapon at the first shop and reroll until you get one.
If you don't get the one you want simply restart the run.

Thanks a lot for the valuable input! Seems like with brotato you actually have to think about your build :D Coming freshly from VS, it's quite different since VS was at no point like "really" challening.

[dholland]

Originally posted by Jex:

For well rounded I think it's prob better to be a hybrid. Focus on 2 things instead of one. Try to do something that no other character can. Haven't beat him a 2nd time so ignore this

Yes. Or 3 things! In my most recent well-rounded D5 win posted in the win thread my build was a mixture of melee, ranged and elemental. And I started with sticks and ended with no sticks and some random lightning sword for some reason :-)

[Spiffy]

Just picked it up and have yet to make it past wave20, my last run i thought i was stacked but just got obliterated by the bosses random attack patterns and dps acting like my 50% armor and torture 1hps wasn't even there lol. Why does the game screw you like that the one time you get a good melee build going... Would refund this trash if I could, what a waste of time.

[Drifter]

Focus on 1 or 2 weapons and roll for them before wave 3. You are guaranteed to see 2 weapons every shop before turn 3, so only buy weapons and lock the items you want.

Make sure you have enough attack speed along with your damage to clear the mobs or you will be overrun in the mid game (coffee is an excellent item).

Originally posted by Alexander:

Just picked it up and have yet to make it past wave20, my last run i thought i was stacked but just got obliterated by the bosses random attack patterns and dps acting like my 50% armor and torture 1hps wasn't even there lol. Why does the game screw you like that the one time you get a good melee build going... Would refund this trash if I could, what a waste of time.

L2P issue. Calling the game trash because you are not very good at it yet just proves what is wrong with gamers these days. You just picked it up and you expect to be able to clear it with ease. smh...

The bosses pattern is actually not all that random, it's very easy to predict and move out of when you get used to it. It gets a lot harder when you have to dodge 2 bosses at once on the hardest difficulty.

[dholland]

About selling and rerolling starting weapon -- certainly works for slingshot, sticks. But the other best weapons, especially at higher danger levels, are not starting weapons (except for knight) and can't appear in the first shop despite rerolling, so you do need to take luck when you find it in early levels to increase your chance of getting flamethrower, sword, hammer, saw hopefully before wave 8 big chargers harsh your buzz. If you can get one of these rarer weapons by wave 5 it can really help you snowball. Weapon tags like primitive increase your chances of getting other weapons with the same tag, so that can be useful, for example take sticks if you want slingshot but tato can't start with it. But beware of getting stuck with sub-par weapons such as chopper (blade hoping for sword or saw). Sticks are decent in early waves, chopper isn't.

[Gobblebird]

Thanks again everyone, with these tips I managed to get do danger 2 now. It's refreshing that this game is not as easy as others :D