Proper way to use ghost scepter? feels bad

[Flackzer]

ghost scepter feels awful, but is there something im missing about when or how to use it ?
feels like i can stack them or upgrade and use other weapons but then it still feels bad and not getting stacks because im using other weapons?

[ZeppMan217]

The proper way to use ghost scepter is as follows: don't. Even on Ghost, who starts with 10 damage to Ethereal, it's nothing more than a support weapon. Focus on feeding your axes and shivs first. The bonus damage and speed from those 2 allow higher tier scepter to actually feed you some max HP.

[some (momi)]

'Chunky' character can definitely appreciate having a lot of them, especially as a starting weapon. Your bonus health builds up further and further; then you switch over to other weapons, and get an even larger damage bonus than you'd normally have.

[aether.tech]

Originally posted by ZeppMan217:

The proper way to use ghost scepter is as follows: don't. Even on Ghost, who starts with 10 damage to Ethereal, it's nothing more than a support weapon. Focus on feeding your axes and shivs first. The bonus damage and speed from those 2 allow higher tier scepter to actually feed you some max HP.

I disagree.

https://imgur.com/FVaanbo

[Flackzer]

Originally posted by .:

'Chunky' character can definitely appreciate having a lot of them, especially as a starting weapon. Your bonus health builds up further and further; then you switch over to other weapons, and get an even larger damage bonus than you'd normally have.

you see i actually tried that, but i again the DPS was so abysmal , and i think i had G.axes too , idk if its because higher difficulty or what.

and again if i just have 1 scepter lets say and go all out on everything else it doesnt feel worth even getting the scepter in the first place

[Azael]

1. Attack Speed
2. Secondary Weapon, with AoE to make sure to not get overrun
3. Don't use it as Main Weapon, but as Support

[Flackzer]

actually i somehow managed to win....

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2885908387

Originally posted by .:

'Chunky' character can ...

Originally posted by ZeppMan217:

The proper way to use ghost scepter is as follows: don't....

[FiletMinion ✫]

Just do it

[Mike]

Ghost Sceptres are mostly for danger zero games.

If you have a ghost sceptre on danger 5 you have to heavily supplement it with wepaons that actually kill groups of enemies like melee weapons or AOE ranged weapons. You also need +damage so that it actually gets kills, otherwise it is just lost money.

[Flackzer]

Originally posted by Mike:

Ghost Sceptres are mostly for danger zero games.

If you have a ghost sceptre on danger 5 you have to heavily supplement it with wepaons that actually kill groups of enemies like melee weapons or AOE ranged weapons. You also need +damage so that it actually gets kills, otherwise it is just lost money.

thats what ive noticed, its damage falls off very quickly without buffing it somehow with items, strange weapon

[thunda]

Yeah full Scepters doesnt work on D5, its DPS is abysmal even when you go hard into attack speed and ranged damage and damage%. By wave 10 you'll be in survival mode, when with other weapons you'd be killing them as fast as they spawn. Even with 1 pierce they suck.

[One Man Army]

Ghost Scepters have poor dps, so going purely 6 of them is really hard to make it work.

Focus your first 4-5 waves on getting 6 weapons as soon as possible.
Then you need to make sure to keep scaling your damage so that you can keep one shotting most of the small mobs. You will need a lot of attack speed too.

It may be a good idea to have one or two melee weapons with high base damage, otherwise you will lose a lot of income and fall behind.

Try Ghost Axes and replace them later on if you feel your dps with scepters is good enough.
If you go this hybrid route, then it's best to focus on %Damage and %Attack speed, instead of pure melee and ranged %damage stats so that it affects both.

[Vance Renadi]

I think Ghost Scepter only works when you focus on getting 1 to a very high level, and then just ignore it for free hp, it's not consistent, but over the run you will generally get quite a bit of HP.

[Klaus]

ghost scepter doesn't work (d5 going full scepter), at least not on any kind of reproducible and consistent level that I've found. tried several times just ignoring everything but getting more scepters and attack speed, wave 9 (small fast horde wave) is near impossible every time. kill potential doesn't keep ahead of the curve. Do I think it's technically possible? yeah sure. do I think you need godly RNG as well as keeping ahead on a secondary method to do damage? for sure. MIGHT work with maybe secondary luck build with cyberskulls or something but not sure when you are supposed to start pumping luck because of how hard it is to stay ahead on attack speed with the underwhelming single target scepters. Having a huge health pool is cool, but you can have health for days and it will mean nothing if the enemies ball up and just melt you anyway, and you start failing to get enough materials to stay ahead of the economy/curve.

[ajohnemus]

Originally posted by aether.tech:

Originally posted by ZeppMan217:

The proper way to use ghost scepter is as follows: don't. Even on Ghost, who starts with 10 damage to Ethereal, it's nothing more than a support weapon. Focus on feeding your axes and shivs first. The bonus damage and speed from those 2 allow higher tier scepter to actually feed you some max HP.

I disagree.

https://imgur.com/FVaanbo

That’s on danger 0. Literally everything works on danger 0

[NexionSE of the Cm.G.]

1-2 going for highest possible upgrade you can get on each suporting a tanky melee build with ghost axe and taking a few points on range dmg, they are not there to deal dmg but stack your health