Jester Hero Shrine Memory 4 Random BS

[tehsuperscout]

So I have narrowed down the possibilities for the 4th memory for the Jester and what you need to do to complete them. I was fortunate and already had one note in harmony with the melody, which means that at worst the other two notes could be 2 steps out of place. Getting those notes in place would leave me at 8/10 stress, no biggie. I also had a similar setup for the second melody, piece of cake. On the 3rd and final melody I had no notes in place. I needed to use 5 turns in order to get the other notes into place, which would result in a fail. I decided to move back one space, praying the note I was standing on was already in harmony. It wasn't. I can't believe Red Hook decided to have the puzzle be random like this. There is no way to stress heal, meaning that if you need to spend more than 4 turns harmonizing the notes then you will fail no matter what. It makes a puzzle that is trivial or actually impossible. Shame on them for this.

[Huge Beard Guy]

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Jester Hero Shrine Memory 4 Random

As far as I'm aware, there's zero randomness in that puzzle and an exact solution. Have you attempted multiple times and each time it's been different?

[Unded]

I failed this shrine a couple of times but eventually was able to do it very efficently.
In case you didn't know, the trick to the puzzle is getting your side to match the opposite one. Another important thing is that jesters current position is always harmonized.
The strat i used was if one of the jester adjacent notes required two actions to harmonize i would move jester there instead, if rng is on your side you can even slide the good note in your previous position granting you two correct notes with one action.
So try to move like that first if possible, should cut down on number of actions necessary.

[Pixel Peeper]

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On the 3rd and final melody I had no notes in place. I needed to use 5 turns in order to get the other notes into place, which would result in a fail. I decided to move back one space, praying the note I was standing on was already in harmony. It wasn't.

That's bizarre. There isn't supposed to be any randomness in this puzzle. The note you were standing on should be in perfect pitch.

Looks like a bug.

[tehsuperscout]

The note I was on was in perfect pitch. Looking at my options I had to make 5 changes no matter where I was at, except one position where I would need to make 6 changes. I am confused as to how this puzzle isn't random.

[tehsuperscout]

Looking at this video the first and second set of notes are exactly how mine where. However, on the third melody the note in position 1 was not in harmony for me. The Jester was standing in that postilion for me, so perhaps the note becomes bugged when you are standing on it? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOe-kkH6F_4

[Ignosius]

If I understood the mechanic correctly, the jester isn't really standing on a note, he basically is a note. When he moves back one, he isn't revealing the note he was on, he's swapping places with the note behind him. He himself is always considered in tune.

You basically need to swap him into a position to match whatever note would take too many steps to fix, unless doing so would take more moves than fixing that note.

If the note behind him would be correct in his current position, then moving him back would result in two correct notes, since it would move that note into the correct spot, and he would still be correct himself.

[Jaggid Edje]

The position of the jester always = 'in tune'. The trick to the puzzle is to position the jester such that the remaining 3 notes take the fewest changes to also get in tune.

I failed it my first time, because I moved the jester too many times at the very start, before I realized exactly how the puzzle worked. >.<

[Pixel Peeper]

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The note I was on was in perfect pitch. Looking at my options I had to make 5 changes no matter where I was at, except one position where I would need to make 6 changes. I am confused as to how this puzzle isn't random.

As far as I know the first couple sections simply require you to change other notes until they're in tune.

The third one, you need to move left once. The note you were originally standing on and revealed by moving will be in tune, the note you moved to will be in tune because you're now on it, so you just need to make a couple changes from your new position.

[Remove Sniper from TF2]

If you move jester onto a note and move away then the note will change. I remember that in order to beat the third part of chapter 4 I had to move jester from rank 1 to rank 4 (cost 3 stress, changes the two middle notes) and then use his other skill on each note (cost 6 stress)

[squat_instructor]

story minigames in general are a travesty, I am never making a new savefile in this game SPECIFICALLY because of them

[tehsuperscout]

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If you move jester onto a note and move away then the note will change. I remember that in order to beat the third part of chapter 4 I had to move jester from rank 1 to rank 4 (cost 3 stress, changes the two middle notes) and then use his other skill on each note (cost 6 stress)

Does the note change one place when Jester moves off of it or does it change to a random note? I know the order the notes cycle through so I could figure out how to complete the puzzle with Jester moving and changing notes as long as it isn't random.

[Ezeklis]

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If you move jester onto a note and move away then the note will change. I remember that in order to beat the third part of chapter 4 I had to move jester from rank 1 to rank 4 (cost 3 stress, changes the two middle notes) and then use his other skill on each note (cost 6 stress)

Does the note change one place when Jester moves off of it or does it change to a random note? I know the order the notes cycle through so I could figure out how to complete the puzzle with Jester moving and changing notes as long as it isn't random.

Yep, it's not random. You have to think of the notes as teammates and you're just shuffling through them.

[Jaggid Edje]

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Yep, it's not random. You have to think of the notes as teammates and you're just shuffling through them.

Wow, nice. It took me a bit to figure out the puzzle and even then I never did see that specific aspect of it. Good tips.

[(Farkon) 2m_anylootboxes]

They really need to let you redo shrines or puzzles since it's not always clear what you have to do and some puzzles are long and ONE mistake is the end of it.

Like for example Vestal's story, chapter 2 you can move multiple ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ spaces, which is the first ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ time you can after do so since you normally can only move one space.

After 50 hours in I'm going to be use to moving only one space and the puzzle at a glance looks like it's solvable if you just move one space.

[DuckieMcduck]

And people say Obsession boss is the hardest fight in the game...