Darkest Dungeon® II

Darkest Dungeon® II

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gonzo May 20, 2023 @ 7:21pm
Serve Once More needs a nerf.
Round 1 turn 1 Hellion Iron Swan crit insta-kills Arabalist. Bishop uses Serve Once More on the Arbalist the very next turn.

I bring corpse clearing abilities to prevent this, but I don't get the chance to use them.

We are constantly throttled by skill cooldowns, thresholds, setup requirements...

Enemies get stuns for free and other malarkey like what I just described.

red hook pls
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Codename_Trigger May 20, 2023 @ 9:01pm 
Look at it from the bright side: You've effectively "stunned" both bishop and arbalist with one action for a minimal stres on one random hero (where your crit probably healed some stress already), all while taking bishop's two tokens where if arbalist survived, he would do a lot of damage to someone, stressing them out and bishop would also damage you, give you even more stress, and disable dodges. In your scenario, it was better that Serve Once More was casted than if it wasn't.
gonzo May 20, 2023 @ 9:24pm 
Originally posted by Diamond Ze Świata:
Look at it from the bright side: You've effectively "stunned" both bishop and arbalist with one action for a minimal stres on one random hero (where your crit probably healed some stress already), all while taking bishop's two tokens where if arbalist survived, he would do a lot of damage to someone, stressing them out and bishop would also damage you, give you even more stress, and disable dodges. In your scenario, it was better that Serve Once More was casted than if it wasn't.

In my scenario it wasn't completely detrimental, since it was just one action wasted, but this has the potential to snowball into an entire round completely gone if you should choose to focus down the Arbalist.
Codename_Trigger May 20, 2023 @ 9:48pm 
Originally posted by gonzo:
Originally posted by Diamond Ze Świata:
Look at it from the bright side: You've effectively "stunned" both bishop and arbalist with one action for a minimal stres on one random hero (where your crit probably healed some stress already), all while taking bishop's two tokens where if arbalist survived, he would do a lot of damage to someone, stressing them out and bishop would also damage you, give you even more stress, and disable dodges. In your scenario, it was better that Serve Once More was casted than if it wasn't.

In my scenario it wasn't completely detrimental, since it was just one action wasted, but this has the potential to snowball into an entire round completely gone if you should choose to focus down the Arbalist.

Two actions wasted, actually. Arbalist couldn't make a move in the first round (if he wasn't faster than hellion), bishop sacrifised 2 Benediction tokens instead of attacking as well, making your next kills safe as long as he didn't generate more, which also makes him waste a turn.

And if you expect Serve Once More... why wouldn't you focus bishop first?
You may also slow down a bit, then time your kills and corpse clears better since you can see a turn order for the next few moves in the top right. Bishop can't revive if pulled to the rank 1 as well.
I assure you, it really isn't that hard to prevent this.
gonzo May 20, 2023 @ 10:04pm 
Originally posted by Diamond Ze Świata:
Originally posted by gonzo:

In my scenario it wasn't completely detrimental, since it was just one action wasted, but this has the potential to snowball into an entire round completely gone if you should choose to focus down the Arbalist.

Two actions wasted, actually. Arbalist couldn't make a move in the first round (if he wasn't faster than hellion), bishop sacrifised 2 Benediction tokens instead of attacking as well, making your next kills safe as long as he didn't generate more, which also makes him waste a turn.

And if you expect Serve Once More... why wouldn't you focus bishop first?
You may also slow down a bit, then time your kills and corpse clears better since you can see a turn order for the next few moves in the top right. Bishop can't revive if pulled to the rank 1 as well.
I assure you, it really isn't that hard to prevent this.

What part of round 1 turn 1 wasn't clear? My Hellion could not hit into rank 3.

I did the best that I could, and the game counter-played me in what I consider an unfair way, there's a reason the devs don't make your heals anything over 50%. It feels cheap if you can just pop someone back to full health. It does not feel good seeing an enemy get completely revived to full HP on round 1 turn 2 either, but usually you can prevent that. I could not. That's the point.
Ben bitmişim May 21, 2023 @ 1:42am 
How is that unfair. Bishop loses all benediction tokens to revive. Enemy loses 2 rounds. Kill bishop if you don't want it to revive others. And hellion does have moves that hit rank 3. Stop calling everything unfair.
gonzo May 21, 2023 @ 7:15am 
Originally posted by Ben bitmişim:
How is that unfair. Bishop loses all benediction tokens to revive. Enemy loses 2 rounds. Kill bishop if you don't want it to revive others. And hellion does have moves that hit rank 3. Stop calling everything unfair.

Does she? Tell me, what move does she have that hits rank 3, while I'm in rank 1?
Codename_Trigger May 21, 2023 @ 11:42am 
Originally posted by gonzo:
Originally posted by Ben bitmişim:
How is that unfair. Bishop loses all benediction tokens to revive. Enemy loses 2 rounds. Kill bishop if you don't want it to revive others. And hellion does have moves that hit rank 3. Stop calling everything unfair.

Does she? Tell me, what move does she have that hits rank 3, while I'm in rank 1?
You can always attack whoever is in front, maybe even bring them to death's door if you don't want to see Serve Once More at all. During that time, someone else will get rid of the bishop.
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Date Posted: May 20, 2023 @ 7:21pm
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