Shadows Over Loathing

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otakon17 Nov 18, 2022 @ 4:38am
Day 3 and I've only found a *two* guns?
I'm pretty certain I've been really thorough exploring every area so far and all I've found is a Tin Lizzy's Grease Gun, the prologue Rusty Pistol and the Tiny Derringer. I mean I'm playing a Cheese Wizard so I'm using wands mostly but I'm wondering where all the damn guns are.
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Bewul Nov 18, 2022 @ 4:46am 
Do read the stats for weapons, musical instruments also use moxie, and even some swords and such. Always read what the weapon damage is. That's how you know if something is moxie, mysticality or muscle
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otakon17 Nov 18, 2022 @ 5:35am 
Originally posted by Bewul:
Do read the stats for weapons, musical instruments also use moxie, and even some swords and such. Always read what the weapon damage is. That's how you know if something is moxie, mysticality or muscle
I do, and that's not the point of my topic. I want *more* guns. I have wand cores I can use to turn them into Mysticality weapons, i just want more guns.
Bewul Nov 18, 2022 @ 5:58am 
Oh, misread that as 'no moxie weapons' because in WoL all moxie weapons were guns. Yes there aren't many guns per se unfortunately. Moxie is now music it seems.
Geordie Watson Nov 18, 2022 @ 7:06am 
you can get gun parts which turn any weapon type into a ranged/gun type.
otakon17 Nov 18, 2022 @ 7:51am 
Originally posted by Geordie Watson:
you can get gun parts which turn any weapon type into a ranged/gun type.
*I don't care about what stat it pulls from*
I want *more gun looking weapons*. Rifles, pistols, revolvers, shotguns. Where's the sprite variety?
Tuskai Nov 18, 2022 @ 8:05am 
Why are your so bothered by this? Every weapon already has its own unique sprite, so why are you hung up on wanting more "Gun" sprites? If you are truly so obsessed with this, why not just mod the game, replace every sprite with a hand drawn gun of some kind, and then you can be happy, you made something with your own two hands, and then also, you added more "Guns" to the game.
Malokenic Nov 18, 2022 @ 8:11am 
or play West of Loathing
otakon17 Nov 18, 2022 @ 9:09am 
Originally posted by Tuskai:
Why are your so bothered by this? Every weapon already has its own unique sprite, so why are you hung up on wanting more "Gun" sprites? If you are truly so obsessed with this, why not just mod the game, replace every sprite with a hand drawn gun of some kind, and then you can be happy, you made something with your own two hands, and then also, you added more "Guns" to the game.
I was just expecting more guns to show up is all.
Geordie Watson Nov 18, 2022 @ 12:28pm 
It's a game based (however loosely) on old pulp fiction and lovecraft.
Guns aren't as rife in either of those as they are in western/cowboy fiction which the previous game (west of loathing) was based on.
So, you might find what you want in that if you havn't played it already.
Mauman Nov 18, 2022 @ 1:46pm 
Originally posted by Geordie Watson:
It's a game based (however loosely) on old pulp fiction and lovecraft.
Guns aren't as rife in either of those as they are in western/cowboy fiction which the previous game (west of loathing) was based on.
So, you might find what you want in that if you havn't played it already.

I'm not quite sure I'd go THAT hard.

The gangster with a tommy gun, hobo with a shotgun, and old soldier with a revolver are common archetypes for Lovecraft. There are more archetypes than that that fit in a Lovecraft setting (like the private investigator or the cop that digged up more than he could chew) but you get the idea.

Guns are common enough. Not exactly effective normally, but definitely common :P

That being said, it's obvious that the devs decided to mix things up a bit and make the moxie class more than just the gun class.
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Antoids Nov 18, 2022 @ 4:09pm 
Originally posted by Bewul:
Oh, misread that as 'no moxie weapons' because in WoL all moxie weapons were guns. Yes there aren't many guns per se unfortunately. Moxie is now music it seems.

In the Loathing-verse, Moxie has always been related to music :) KoL's classes are:

Seal Clubber and Turtle Tamer (Muscle, focused on high melee damage and self-buffing, respectively)
Pastamancer and Sauceror (Mysticality, focused on spellcasting/summons and potion-crafting/hot or cold spells, respectively)
Disco Bandit and Accordion Thief (Moxie, focused on ranged damage/stealing and long-term buffs, respectively)

The theming has been bent a touch for the standalone games (particularly, I'd say, in Mysticality's case), but it remains fairly true to its roots.
Geordie Watson Nov 18, 2022 @ 4:36pm 
Originally posted by Mauman:
Originally posted by Geordie Watson:
It's a game based (however loosely) on old pulp fiction and lovecraft.
Guns aren't as rife in either of those as they are in western/cowboy fiction....

The gangster with a tommy gun, hobo with a shotgun, and old soldier with a revolver are common archetypes for Lovecraft.

Gunslinging in western fiction is /the main/ trope so there would be more guns in a game taking from that.
Folk (mainly police or army) using guns in Lovecraft's stories is often a 'this is how you deal with a cosmic threat' situation, it's not a core part of that fiction. So a game pulling from that fiction is going to have less focus on guns.

Besides those archetypes are from call of cthulhu, not from lovecraft's stories.
Mauman Nov 18, 2022 @ 9:49pm 
Originally posted by Geordie Watson:
Besides those archetypes are from call of cthulhu, not from lovecraft's stories.

I get what you're trying to say, but you need understand that I can't state how hard I rolled my eyes when you typed this sentence.

Close........Enough.
Nanako Nov 19, 2022 @ 4:36am 
Originally posted by otakon17:
I'm pretty certain I've been really thorough exploring every area so far and all I've found is a Tin Lizzy's Grease Gun, the prologue Rusty Pistol and the Tiny Derringer. I mean I'm playing a Cheese Wizard so I'm using wands mostly but I'm wondering where all the damn guns are.
You're about to find the best gun. The icemaker is in chapter 3

you can use it for the rest of the game if you like, its pretty great
otakon17 Nov 19, 2022 @ 7:24am 
Originally posted by Nanako =^.^=:
Originally posted by otakon17:
I'm pretty certain I've been really thorough exploring every area so far and all I've found is a Tin Lizzy's Grease Gun, the prologue Rusty Pistol and the Tiny Derringer. I mean I'm playing a Cheese Wizard so I'm using wands mostly but I'm wondering where all the damn guns are.
You're about to find the best gun. The icemaker is in chapter 3

you can use it for the rest of the game if you like, its pretty great
I must have missed it, I'm on Day 5 now. Which sucks because I thought I was pretty thorough...
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