Shadow Ban Discussion

[Pishârath]

I am an average player with a KD of 1.98 (2 KD approx in MP and 2.5 in Warzone) and i get shadow banned after having a very good game. I have no problem with that. Its just a loop and i just get frustrated sometimes but yeah i understand it is part of the game mechanics to stop the cheaters from ruining the game. But couldn't the developers make an update to check if there are spam reports on a player then check his KD over the last 10 games and then decide whether to shadown ban or not? Wouldn't that resolve lot of issues with the shadow ban loop?

[suwamster]

no they can't, this system's been around since mw19, it won't be fixed or adjusted ever
I've uninstalled after 29th shadowban

[Pishârath]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von live grenade:

no they can't, this system's been around since mw19, it won't be fixed or adjusted ever
I've uninstalled after 29th shadowban

Its just that the game is really good but something need to be done on it to work more efficiently.

[suwamster]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Pishârath:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von live grenade:

no they can't, this system's been around since mw19, it won't be fixed or adjusted ever
I've uninstalled after 29th shadowban

Its just that the game is really good but something need to be done on it to work more efficiently.

well yeah but it's simply not happening

[Ｔｅｎｓｅｎｕｍａ]

It's a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ system they aren't fixing because they don't care. They get $$$ regardless.

[Doc]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Pishârath:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von live grenade:

no they can't, this system's been around since mw19, it won't be fixed or adjusted ever
I've uninstalled after 29th shadowban

Its just that the game is really good but something need to be done on it to work more efficiently.

"the game is really good" dafuq man

[Pishârath]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Doc:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Pishârath:

Its just that the game is really good but something need to be done on it to work more efficiently.

"the game is really good" dafuq man

Each have their opinion. For me it was good ;). While the only cons i see

1. Shadow ban loop due to spam reporting.
2. Aim assist for controllers.

But i don't really care as i game for fun so if a controller is gonna kill me with the aim assist and aim acceleration then i am fine with it.

[Bruno]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Pishârath:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Doc:

"the game is really good" dafuq man

Each have their opinion. For me it was good ;). While the only cons i see

1. Shadow ban loop due to spam reporting.
2. Aim assist for controllers.

But i don't really care as i game for fun so if a controller is gonna kill me with the aim assist and aim acceleration then i am fine with it.

Yes, be a good sheep. Keep playing the game, buying bundles and saying its good even after getting pissed on by controller aimbot players and after getting banned and being unable to play for literally no reason. Activision likes people like you.

[Pishârath]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Bruno:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Pishârath:

Each have their opinion. For me it was good ;). While the only cons i see

1. Shadow ban loop due to spam reporting.
2. Aim assist for controllers.

But i don't really care as i game for fun so if a controller is gonna kill me with the aim assist and aim acceleration then i am fine with it.

Yes, be a good sheep. Keep playing the game, buying bundles and saying its good even after getting pissed on by controller aimbot players and after getting banned and being unable to play for literally no reason. Activision likes people like you.

If u are good enough with KM then i don't see why not? Like i said the only problem here is the shadow ban takes in the input of the spam reports. Which it should not. So much advancement has happened in AI / programming and they should change that. Controller players have least affect on me at least. Not sure about others.

[Pishârath]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Rexali_:

I don't like to judge people, but I've never seen any game like this before (whether free-to-play or not) with this many cheaters. In many matches, even cheaters are more common than legit players. It's interesting how careless the anti-cheat and report systems are. It's obvious that many people use aimbots if you see their kilcams. Aimbots are obvious, no doubt, because when the enemy shoots you, his crosshair will be locked on you, and it's something clear in killcams, but I'm not sure about wallhacks.

I purchased this game a couple weeks ago on deals. After I jumped into PVP, I faced very confusing maps, and I just died everytime. All I want is just a Shoothouse playlist. I'm happy that MW III will have a remake of the best maps in the series.

Therefore, because maps are awful, my death count became 300 more than my kills(Something about 0.70 K/D) at first, but I decided to change my playstyle to be better in this game. So I find a strategy to find advantage points in any map and circle around them. After I changed my playstyle, my K/D increased and my kill count is 200 more than my deaths for now : https://postimg.cc/JtkMzx0g

I'm not obsessed with K/D in PVP games, but in previous CoD games, I didn't have K/D below '3'; I just set my goal to improve it, and I think it's a better purpose than forcing yourself to use a gun that you don't like just to complete its challenges or unlock skins.

Also OP, if your K/D is '2', it means you are a good player, not average. Average K/D is '1' in every PVP game because with every kill, there is a death on the other side, so average K/D is always "1". But in games like this, the best K/Ds belong to aimbots.

Hey i totally understand ur point but that's one of the reason why we have shadow ban right? To stop the cheaters? But the way it is working is messed up. As mentioned in ur example, the more u improve the more you get shadow banned.

[Kirilla]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Pishârath:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Rexali_:

I don't like to judge people, but I've never seen any game like this before (whether free-to-play or not) with this many cheaters. In many matches, even cheaters are more common than legit players. It's interesting how careless the anti-cheat and report systems are. It's obvious that many people use aimbots if you see their kilcams. Aimbots are obvious, no doubt, because when the enemy shoots you, his crosshair will be locked on you, and it's something clear in killcams, but I'm not sure about wallhacks.

I purchased this game a couple weeks ago on deals. After I jumped into PVP, I faced very confusing maps, and I just died everytime. All I want is just a Shoothouse playlist. I'm happy that MW III will have a remake of the best maps in the series.

Therefore, because maps are awful, my death count became 300 more than my kills(Something about 0.70 K/D) at first, but I decided to change my playstyle to be better in this game. So I find a strategy to find advantage points in any map and circle around them. After I changed my playstyle, my K/D increased and my kill count is 200 more than my deaths for now : https://postimg.cc/JtkMzx0g

I'm not obsessed with K/D in PVP games, but in previous CoD games, I didn't have K/D below '3'; I just set my goal to improve it, and I think it's a better purpose than forcing yourself to use a gun that you don't like just to complete its challenges or unlock skins.

Also OP, if your K/D is '2', it means you are a good player, not average. Average K/D is '1' in every PVP game because with every kill, there is a death on the other side, so average K/D is always "1". But in games like this, the best K/Ds belong to aimbots.

Hey i totally understand ur point but that's one of the reason why we have shadow ban right? To stop the cheaters? But the way it is working is messed up. As mentioned in ur example, the more u improve the more you get shadow banned.

no. shadowban and ricochet anti cheat is two different things. shadowban doesnt stop cheaters. it just stops realistic players that are good to play the game (which is a consumer fraud) in case the anti cheat doesnt catch them. You dont need this system to catch cheaters because at the end devs need evidence that you are cheating.

[Pishârath]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Rexali_:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Pishârath:

Hey i totally understand ur point but that's one of the reason why we have shadow ban right? To stop the cheaters? But the way it is working is messed up. As mentioned in ur example, the more u improve the more you get shadow banned.

My point is that this anti-cheat system is totally useless. So, combining many cheaters with the worst maps in this game has made it one of the worst CoD PVP experiences.

But I never got shadowbanned until now; I just had issues with map designs and cheaters, so I decided to change my playstyle. I won't play fast-paced anymore, and instead, I find advantage points in the maps and circle around them (Not total camping). This makes my K/D increase, but playing at a fast-pace style doesn't work on these maps.

I hope they bring back the Shoothouse playlist, because I heard there was a playlist for the Shoothouse map in release, but they removed it for now.

I hope so too.

[Pishârath]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Kirilla:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Pishârath:

Hey i totally understand ur point but that's one of the reason why we have shadow ban right? To stop the cheaters? But the way it is working is messed up. As mentioned in ur example, the more u improve the more you get shadow banned.

no. shadowban and ricochet anti cheat is two different things. shadowban doesnt stop cheaters. it just stops realistic players that are good to play the game (which is a consumer fraud) in case the anti cheat doesnt catch them. You dont need this system to catch cheaters because at the end devs need evidence that you are cheating.

So isn't shadow ban a tool / idea used by Dev to actually monitor and check if the players are cheating? If that is broken and making players stuck in loop then they should upgrade it to stop legit players from getting on this infinite loop where anyone can get shadow-banned based on the reports.

[akfawcough]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Rexali_:

I don't like to judge people, but I've never seen any game like this before (whether free-to-play or not) with this many cheaters. In many matches, even cheaters are more common than legit players. It's interesting how careless the anti-cheat and report systems are. It's obvious that many people use aimbots if you see their kilcams. Aimbots are obvious, no doubt, because when the enemy shoots you, his crosshair will be locked on you, and it's something clear in killcams, but I'm not sure about wallhacks.

I purchased this game a couple weeks ago on deals. After I jumped into PVP, I faced very confusing maps, and I just died everytime. All I want is just a Shoothouse playlist. I'm happy that MW III will have a remake of the best maps in the series.

Therefore, because maps are awful, my death count became 300 more than my kills(Something about 0.70 K/D) at first, but I decided to change my playstyle to be better in this game. So I find a strategy to find advantage points in any map and circle around them. After I changed my playstyle, my K/D increased and my kill count is 200 more than my deaths for now : https://postimg.cc/JtkMzx0g

I'm not obsessed with K/D in PVP games, but in previous CoD games, I didn't have K/D below '3'; I just set my goal to improve it, and I think it's a better purpose than forcing yourself to use a gun that you don't like just to complete its challenges or unlock skins.

Also OP, if your K/D is '2', it means you are a good player, not average. Average K/D is '1' in every PVP game because with every kill, there is a death on the other side, so average K/D is always "1". But in games like this, the best K/Ds belong to aimbots.

It is not cheaters the game 'assists' controller players even through walls.

[Pishârath]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von akfawcough:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Rexali_:

I don't like to judge people, but I've never seen any game like this before (whether free-to-play or not) with this many cheaters. In many matches, even cheaters are more common than legit players. It's interesting how careless the anti-cheat and report systems are. It's obvious that many people use aimbots if you see their kilcams. Aimbots are obvious, no doubt, because when the enemy shoots you, his crosshair will be locked on you, and it's something clear in killcams, but I'm not sure about wallhacks.

I purchased this game a couple weeks ago on deals. After I jumped into PVP, I faced very confusing maps, and I just died everytime. All I want is just a Shoothouse playlist. I'm happy that MW III will have a remake of the best maps in the series.

Therefore, because maps are awful, my death count became 300 more than my kills(Something about 0.70 K/D) at first, but I decided to change my playstyle to be better in this game. So I find a strategy to find advantage points in any map and circle around them. After I changed my playstyle, my K/D increased and my kill count is 200 more than my deaths for now : https://postimg.cc/JtkMzx0g

I'm not obsessed with K/D in PVP games, but in previous CoD games, I didn't have K/D below '3'; I just set my goal to improve it, and I think it's a better purpose than forcing yourself to use a gun that you don't like just to complete its challenges or unlock skins.

Also OP, if your K/D is '2', it means you are a good player, not average. Average K/D is '1' in every PVP game because with every kill, there is a death on the other side, so average K/D is always "1". But in games like this, the best K/Ds belong to aimbots.

It is not cheaters the game 'assists' controller players even through walls.

Never tried controller to be honest, but even if it is that broken i dont think activision would fix it because their main source of revenue is from playstations. Its given in the sony filling. The revenue COD generates in Playstation is unreal.

[BS05047]

Game is made for bad players . They have better sbmm damage, have report sytem to ban players in shadow ban cuz they are bad and cant compete with others