Why is it so hard to not have hackers?

[ProfessorParker]

The more online games I play the more obvious it is that Cod wants hackers in their game. It's so easy to just, not have hackers, but they choose to have them.

[Bandito]

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[potato]

Originally posted by ProfessorParker:

It's so easy to just, not have hackers

how is that

[Kalevipoeg]

What a dumb statement

[potato]

Originally posted by ProfessorParker:

Lmao, how about you make a counter point instead of acting like a toddler.

why should they when you didn't make any points to counter

[anykeey]

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[potato]

Originally posted by ProfessorParker:

Than explain why some multiplayer games have 0 hackers and others have thousands.

the only multiplayer games that have "zero hackers" are games that no one plays

[Kunovega]

Originally posted by ProfessorParker:

Seems I won. No one can come up with any info why games have so many hackers and why the devs choose to not have them. Than explain why some multiplayer games have 0 hackers and others have thousands.

What multiplayer games have 0 cheaters?

The only way you even come close to that is with private invite-only servers and live monitoring with mods that ban as soon as they see any.

Otherwise, all online games have cheaters, the more popular the game, the more cheaters there will be. Some games have decent cheat protection, some don't, but that's a different debate from what you're trying to claim that some don't have any, ever.

[Kunovega]

Originally posted by ProfessorParker:

The more online games I play the more obvious it is that Cod wants hackers in their game. It's so easy to just, not have hackers, but they choose to have them.

If it's so easy, show us.

Seriously, there's entire companies built around trying to prevent cheating and others exist that make the cheats, it's a constant war between them.

It's never been easy to prevent cheaters and you claiming it is simply shows how little you understand the problem.

[TURBO SIX]

The new AI Anti-cheat is the answer but they probably won't agree to implementing it.

[Bobr]

"its so easy to just, not have hackers".

That is the funniest and most ignorant statement I've read in a long time. Until AI anti cheat becomes functional enough that companies can use it without risks of being sued for falsely banning people, cheaters are always going to win. And its still going to be a long time before AI anti cheats are verified enough to be used professionally.

Current cheats outclass current anti cheats by miles. The current fancy ones do techo wizardy things like run even deeper than your operating system, and host it and the game on a virtual machine, so they're completely undetectable on a software level, so you have to manually review them, which leaves room for doubt. Plus there's other less complicated things like running the cheats on a separate pc to get the same effect. Not to mention AI cheats, which don't require the years of testing to make sure they're safe like AI anti cheat.

People forget that the cheaters who get caught, are just the stupid ones, which to be fair, makes up a majority, but little timmy rage hacking and getting banned in a day isn't the problem. You probably deal with closet cheaters every single match but never realize it.

[Viking2121]

I mean, they could just leave the banning of cheaters up to the server owners if they allowed people to rent server like the old days, sure some of them people did ban legit players thinking they are cheating but I'd rather that then nothing, and some active admins usally took care of it rather quickly, sometimes them server owners would have weird rules, but you did have other servers to play on, so idk. bunch of ways to deal with it, but Money, them cheaters get banned, they might buy another copy to do all over.

[Kunovega]

Originally posted by ProfessorParker:

Originally posted by Kunovega:

What multiplayer games have 0 cheaters?

The only way you even come close to that is with private invite-only servers and live monitoring with mods that ban as soon as they see any.

Otherwise, all online games have cheaters, the more popular the game, the more cheaters there will be. Some games have decent cheat protection, some don't, but that's a different debate from what you're trying to claim that some don't have any, ever.

Battlefield 4? War thunder? WoT? I don't know where YOU did your research, but there are multiplayer games that have no hackers.

Every game you listed has cheaters, try again.

Originally posted by ProfessorParker:

The only reason there are still hackers is because of money.

You think game companies make money from allowing cheaters?

You're either just trolling or completely oblivious.

Originally posted by Viking2121:

I mean, they could just leave the banning of cheaters up to the server owners if they allowed people to rent server like the old days, sure some of them people did ban legit players thinking they are cheating but I'd rather that then nothing, and some active admins usally took care of it rather quickly, sometimes them server owners would have weird rules, but you did have other servers to play on, so idk. bunch of ways to deal with it, but Money, them cheaters get banned, they might buy another copy to do all over.

That worked for a while when PC gaming was still growing and can still work with invite only servers if people are willing to cultivate their own private friend groups; it doesn't work well if those servers are open to the public. Admins always go into these things with the best of intentions and then get bored of being full time baby sitters having to manually ban cheaters constantly.

[A Sniffing Cat ❸]

Originally posted by Bandito:

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[Viking2121]

Originally posted by Kunovega:

Originally posted by ProfessorParker:

Battlefield 4? War thunder? WoT? I don't know where YOU did your research, but there are multiplayer games that have no hackers.

Every game you listed has cheaters, try again.

Originally posted by ProfessorParker:

The only reason there are still hackers is because of money.

You think game companies make money from allowing cheaters?

You're either just trolling or completely oblivious.

Originally posted by Viking2121:

I mean, they could just leave the banning of cheaters up to the server owners if they allowed people to rent server like the old days, sure some of them people did ban legit players thinking they are cheating but I'd rather that then nothing, and some active admins usally took care of it rather quickly, sometimes them server owners would have weird rules, but you did have other servers to play on, so idk. bunch of ways to deal with it, but Money, them cheaters get banned, they might buy another copy to do all over.

That worked for a while when PC gaming was still growing and can still work with invite only servers if people are willing to cultivate their own private friend groups; it doesn't work well if those servers are open to the public. Admins always go into these things with the best of intentions and then get bored of being full time baby sitters having to manually ban cheaters constantly.

Thats why you get a server browser with multiple server, if you are not happy with how its ran, go to another one, Plus many games that offer such ability, usually the admin isn't just 1 person, especially if its part of a community, with how accessible and easy to use Discord is, I'm pretty sure a lot of them more popular server would have some sort of report this player, just like a lot of servers on Hell Let Loose.

Idk, I feel letting the community help with cheating by allowing them rent servers and letting them be the judge rather than a small group of people program a half backed in anti cheat that can't even ban blatant cheater that same day or week. Why not have both, Admins and the craptastic anti-cheat?

[Mondale]

Originally posted by Viking2121:

I mean, they could just leave the banning of cheaters up to the server owners if they allowed people to rent server like the old days, sure some of them people did ban legit players thinking they are cheating but I'd rather that then nothing, and some active admins usally took care of it rather quickly, sometimes them server owners would have weird rules, but you did have other servers to play on, so idk. bunch of ways to deal with it, but Money, them cheaters get banned, they might buy another copy to do all over.

I like the old way of having server admins to monitor servers and view suspected cheaters and banning them, we need that as an option.