Is it possible to get an MGB on invasion?

[Spaceman]

Asking because someone just dropped one on a match, and I'm inclined to believe it wasn't legit, but set me straight on whether or not that's true? I've never seen one before and I thought it was a warzone thing. Plus, they're definitely not listed as killstreaks that you can 'equip'. Cheers.

[Karkisamaya]

nuke is 30 kills without dying. If the person managed to kill 30 ppl and not bots throughout the game then yes. I got it too once so it's not really that hard

[Spaceman]

Originally posted by Karkisamaya:

nuke is 30 kills without dying. If the person managed to kill 30 ppl and not bots throughout the game then yes. I got it too once so it's not really that hard

If it's 'not really that hard' then why don't I see it more often? 300 hrs of Invasion and this was my first one. You make it sound like it's a normal thing that anyone can do but I don't see just anyone doing it, and up until "it's not that hard" your answer someone satisfied me, but I'm pretty sure it would actually be quite a difficult challenge that only very exceptional players might be able to achieve.

[PoopPeek Lil_Poop]

Originally posted by Spaceman:

Originally posted by Karkisamaya:

nuke is 30 kills without dying. If the person managed to kill 30 ppl and not bots throughout the game then yes. I got it too once so it's not really that hard

If it's 'not really that hard' then why don't I see it more often? 300 hrs of Invasion and this was my first one. You make it sound like it's a normal thing that anyone can do but I don't see just anyone doing it, and up until "it's not that hard" your answer someone satisfied me, but I'm pretty sure it would actually be quite a difficult challenge that only very exceptional players might be able to achieve.

Because "SBMM" gets you in the lobby with people who are skilled +- like you.
In "stronger" lobbies nukes are relatively common.

[Spaceman]

Originally posted by Erik96:

Originally posted by Spaceman:

If it's 'not really that hard' then why don't I see it more often? 300 hrs of Invasion and this was my first one. You make it sound like it's a normal thing that anyone can do but I don't see just anyone doing it, and up until "it's not that hard" your answer someone satisfied me, but I'm pretty sure it would actually be quite a difficult challenge that only very exceptional players might be able to achieve.

Because "SBMM" gets you in the lobby with people who are skilled +- like you.
In "stronger" lobbies nukes are relatively common.

So dodgy matchmaking again. Check.

Getting quite sick of that, to be honest.

[Karkisamaya]

Originally posted by Spaceman:

Originally posted by Karkisamaya:

nuke is 30 kills without dying. If the person managed to kill 30 ppl and not bots throughout the game then yes. I got it too once so it's not really that hard

If it's 'not really that hard' then why don't I see it more often? 300 hrs of Invasion and this was my first one. You make it sound like it's a normal thing that anyone can do but I don't see just anyone doing it, and up until "it's not that hard" your answer someone satisfied me, but I'm pretty sure it would actually be quite a difficult challenge that only very exceptional players might be able to achieve.

people mostly play invasion to lvl up weapons quickly. that's what everyone did for weeks after the game launched. If you know where to position and how to play then getting nukes isn't that hard. I would almost always get 17 kills without dying almost every game because of how easy it was to kill snipers camping in their own spawn. If you didn't manage to see anyone getting nukes in your 300 hrs then you might be in less sweaty lobbies where ppl run around but in my 500+ hrs i've definitely seen at least 10 nukes in the first week of launch

Edit: I farted so hard my chair got warmer

Edit 2: Getting nuke in invasion isn't only for the "best" players. It's not hard at all to camp in your own spawn and get easy sniper kills.

[Spaceman]

Originally posted by Karkisamaya:

Edit 2: Getting nuke in invasion isn't only for the "best" players. It's not hard at all to camp in your own spawn and get easy sniper kills.

Not hard for whom, exactly?

That's my point. You keep saying 'it's not hard' as if it's normal, and I've already made this point, but not everyone is at that level. In fact, most people are not at that level, and sniping at spawn is not that easy, either. Maybe it was, but it's not anymore. Especially when the other team frequently drives or otherwise gets around behind your side's spawn, and spawn camps you, and no one does anything about it.

[Karkisamaya]

Originally posted by Spaceman:

Originally posted by Karkisamaya:

Not hard for whom, exactly?

That's my point. You keep saying 'it's not hard' as if it's normal, and I've already made this point, but not everyone is at that level. In fact, most people are not at that level, and sniping at spawn is not that easy, either. Maybe it was, but it's not anymore. Especially when the other team frequently drives or otherwise gets around behind your side's spawn, and spawn camps you, and no one does anything about it.

your question was if it was possible to get a nuke on invasion or not because someone got it and you thought it wasn't legit. I am sure I've already answered that question so your main question is answered.

As for the second question/argument... Unless you are a completely new player that has never in their life played any fps games and has no knowledge of how a shooter game works then it's quite easy in this call of duty to get nukes compared to other call of duties.

So to answer your question of "not hard for whom". Everyone that has the basic knowledge of moving and shooting could have a chance to get a nuke. Like i said before, getting nuke in this call of duty is a bit easier in MY OPINION and that is because NOBODY can have ghost at the beginning meaning if one of your teammates get a UAV then you literally see everyone. With the help of that UAV other players and you included and get even more UAV'S until someone finally gets a ADVANCED UAV which literally tells you where the enemy is and where that enemy is looking at.

Getting UAV is too easy in invasion because all you need to do is to change kills to scores in your killstreaks so whenever you kill a bot you get the points to be able to get UAV really quickly.

You keep arguing that getting nuke isn't something "normal" and that not everyone can get it and i disagree with that. The reason why you don't see that many nukes every game can be because of many reasons. One of the reasons can be because of SBMM and if it's not that then it's most likely that nobody in the lobby is interested in getting a nuke or just focused on leveling up weapons or just chilling. To be able to achieve something you have to put your focus on it and give it a try. Maybe for you watching ppl getting nukes isn't something normal and i understand that because maybe you've never been to many lobbies where people just play to get nukes but for me someone getting nukes specially in ground war or invasion is like a common thing because the amount of UAV that can be active at the same time is insane and it makes it easier for average+ people to get nukes.

To summarize what i just said: For anyone that has the basic knowledge of how to shoot, move, take cover and look at the map already has a good amount of chance to get a nuke SPECIFICALLY in INVASION. (because the bots help a lot)
You don't have to be average to get a nuke. If you constantly have a UAV because your teammates or you yourself got it then you constantly know where the enemy is, meaning once you see every enemy on the map, it's YOUR decision to pick a play-style that will help you to get a nuke.

I'm not saying that it's a guarantee that you will get the nuke in every game if you follow everything that i just said. But if you get in a game focused on getting a nuke then you'll realize that maybe in your first game you'll do 5 kills without dying. Next game maybe 12 and if you keep going then soon you'll be getting 15 kills every game without dying.

The reason i'm so sure that it's easy to get nukes is because when the game first launched i told my mom to come play with me. (i like to invite her to play with me sometimes)
She doesn't like playing games so she doesn't have any knowledge of how the game works or what you're supposed to do. I was in a game of invasion and i was showing her how decent the graphics looked and let her play a bit. The ONLY thing i told her was to look for red dots on the map and taught her how to use the mouse (to aim and shoot).
She managed to get 9 kills without dying and without moving from the same place. Eventually an enemy figured out where she was and killed her but if she had constantly repositioned then she could've maybe gotten even more kills without dying.

It's not "hard" to get 30 kills without dying if you constantly see the enemy and have the basic knowledge of taking cover and shooting. If in the lobbies that you play the enemy team is constantly pushing with vehicles then get on a rooftop with claymores and stuff. Every Invasion or ground war map has buildings then you can hide in. Even in Taraq.
And if the enemy is camping your spawn then do the same. Get a tactical insertion, go to their base and use your tactical insertion and camp near their spawn and get kills while UAV is active. YOU can do the same thing they do and if that's not your playstyle then find a different way to adapt to it.

Edit: nothing, i just wanted to have the "edited" thing.

Edit 2: I forgot i was grilling the sausages while i was writing all this so now they're burned and very black so now i'm gonna die of hunger.

[Spaceman]

Originally posted by Karkisamaya:

your question was if it was possible to get a nuke on invasion or not because someone got it and you thought it wasn't legit. I am sure I've already answered that question so your main question is answered.

As for the second question/argument... Unless you are a completely new player

I don't believe you.

I don't believe that story you told, for one, and for two, again, of all the games I've played, I've seen one nuke. Out of thousands of players I've played against, just one.

The law of averages doesn't lie: nukes are not for average players. Nukes are not something that average players get to do. You are expecting average players to be able to do things, based on a range of variables that have to come together perfectly, that they simply cannot do.

It is, most definitely, not normal to see. At least, not for me. And you are basing your expectations of 'normal' on your own experience rather than the actual average. And it's a little bit annoying, because as a result, you end up talking down to me, and about me, and most other players, because instead of just answering the question, you had to go that one step further and make sure that I understood clearly that I'm just bad.

But again, I might not be amongst the best, but your grade scale could use some work, because I'm definitely not bad. One more thing. If you're going 30 kills without dying in Invasion, the only thing you're really good at is avoiding players. Which, if you think about it, doesn't actually make you good at multiplayer, because you aren't really engaging in it.

But again, you're suggesting that it's easy based on a range of variables that have to be just right, and rely on things that, for the most part, are actually outside of your control. This doesn't seem 'normal' to me. It's like saying, "Oh, it's very easy to get to Mars, you just need to have x amount of delta-V, life support, radiation shielding, and a nice clear run without anything going run for six months. Don't worry, it's normal, happens all the time".

[Echo]

Originally posted by Spaceman:

Asking because someone just dropped one on a match, and I'm inclined to believe it wasn't legit, but set me straight on whether or not that's true? I've never seen one before and I thought it was a warzone thing. Plus, they're definitely not listed as killstreaks that you can 'equip'. Cheers.

Nukes have been in COD MP since OG MW2. if you're above average player nukes isn't that hard to drop. just don't camp, learn map spawns and spawn trap. if i learned that when i was 10 years old i bet anyone could do it if just spent more time than 4 hours a week to gaming.