Why is COD servers still on 20 Tick?

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A friend and I was discussing the lack of hit detection in this game and decided to have a look into the server hardware they use. Apparently its a mixture of Google Cloud Servers and a few other companies but these servers are configured to use 20 ticks. Why are we not on 64+ by now? Especially as this is a game used in esports?

[Zealaequin702]

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I Googled it. Seems to be random people running tests on the servers since CoD doesn't wanna say what it specifically is to refute it b/c it might upset people. 6v6 seems to be the best at 32-65ticks. some of the bigger maps seem to run as low as 12 ticks like ground wars. Looks like they are trying to up the rates though for warzone 2 but server instability is severely bogging it.
https://twitter.com/MavriqGG/status/1573778386215993346

Have you even read the tweet?

"6v6: 62-65hz
32 v 32 Ground War: 62-65hz
20 v 20 GW w/ AI (Invasion): 62-65hz"

The 20Hz tick is referring to MW2019, not MWII

Yes I did. Did you read the replying and commenting tweets shared about it through the tweet thread? You don't honestly believe they're going to be any different from WZ1 and MW1 do you? You do whats profitable and they've already proved previous tick rates people would still play.

[Zylon]

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My issue is always. That Tickrate isn't everything. You can have a high Tickrate but when the Netcode is bad you can have the highest Tickrate in the world the game would still feel bad. For example you can still have delays and connection issues etc.

why not both?

[Lizzy]

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My issue is always. That Tickrate isn't everything. You can have a high Tickrate but when the Netcode is bad you can have the highest Tickrate in the world the game would still feel bad. For example you can still have delays and connection issues etc.

why not both?

I would love both. But people always only discuss Tickrate which makes no sense when the first thing that should be done is a proper Netcode.

[N4pfkuchen!]

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Have you even read the tweet?

"6v6: 62-65hz
32 v 32 Ground War: 62-65hz
20 v 20 GW w/ AI (Invasion): 62-65hz"

The 20Hz tick is referring to MW2019, not MWII

Yes I did. Did you read the replying and commenting tweets shared about it through the tweet thread? You don't honestly believe they're going to be any different from WZ1 and MW1 do you? You do whats profitable and they've already proved previous tick rates people would still play.

Why argument with beliving, if the done tests show different?
All data I find for MWII states the server having a 64Hz tick rate.
But if you consider your image of the evil, greedy company to be more reasonable than actual data, its your choice.

[Zealaequin702]

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Why argument with beliving, if the done tests show different?
All data I find for MWII states the server having a 64Hz tick rate.
But if you consider your image of the evil, greedy company to be more reasonable than actual data, its your choice.

"The Image of the evil, greedy company to be more reasonable[...]"
I'm suprised you're able to see them as a honest, good willed, for the people type of company after last years controversy. But hey; If you think the Cosby Rape suite, the CEO Rape Cover up, Employee treatment, and threats to womens lives as honest good will honest company I do suppose with my pessimistic outlook would logically see people like you would genuinely think that would make em good people. The CEO never resigned either lol.

[N4pfkuchen!]

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Why argument with beliving, if the done tests show different?
All data I find for MWII states the server having a 64Hz tick rate.
But if you consider your image of the evil, greedy company to be more reasonable than actual data, its your choice.

"The Image of the evil, greedy company to be more reasonable[...]"
I'm suprised you're able to see them as a honest, good willed, for the people type of company after last years controversy. But hey; If you think the Cosby Rape suite, the CEO Rape Cover up, Employee treatment, and threats to womens lives as honest good will honest company I do suppose with my pessimistic outlook would logically see people like you would genuinely think that would make em good people. The CEO never resigned either lol.

Have you hit your head? Just because I dont think this image is a logical reason for technical ingame stuff, doesnt mean I belive in them as "honest, good willed".
The game is made by infinity ward, not blizzard. Have you any source, that the people working on this game are guilty?

Stop laying words in peoples mouths.
If your argumentation would make ANY sense, why doesnt games like BF, CSGO etc. run their games on 20 tick servers? Do you think EA is "honest, good willed" ?
What a joke.

MWII is running on 64 tick severs, proof me wrong.

[Berengas Nº1]

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"The Image of the evil, greedy company to be more reasonable[...]"
I'm suprised you're able to see them as a honest, good willed, for the people type of company after last years controversy. But hey; If you think the Cosby Rape suite, the CEO Rape Cover up, Employee treatment, and threats to womens lives as honest good will honest company I do suppose with my pessimistic outlook would logically see people like you would genuinely think that would make em good people. The CEO never resigned either lol.

Have you hit your head? Just because I dont think this image is a logical reason for technical ingame stuff, doesnt mean I belive in them as "honest, good willed".
The game is made by infinity ward, not blizzard. Have you any source, that the people working on this game are guilty?

Stop laying words in peoples mouths.
If your argumentation would make ANY sense, why doesnt games like BF, CSGO etc. run their games on 20 tick servers? Do you think EA is "honest, good willed" ?
What a joke.

MWII is running on 64 tick severs, proof me wrong.

For those complaining about tickrate there is test that proof its running at 100 hz the problem is the netcode

[Pitty]

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Higher tickrate servers cost more money. Right now they cant even afford to release stuff when they say they do.

Plenty of descriptions that would fit thos behaviour.

Not necessary. Its just a value they need to change that the servers are running on an higher tickrate

[Church]

Community rented BF4 servers operated at 60tps lol

[Kade]

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I think CSGO is the only ones that use decent at 64 ticks normal players and 128tick tournaments.

Even 64 is ass compared to 128, 20 is disgusting for company like blizzard. They just know that they can put out another COD a year after they release a game and get more ♥♥♥♥♥♥ servers and make a profit.

[Warriorprince]

Tickrate for games.

128 ticks per second Valorant.
60 ticks per second Counter-Strike: Global Offensive and Overwatch.
30 ticks per second Fortnite and Battlefield V's.
20 ticks per second Call of Duty: Modern Warfare, Call of Duty: Warzone and Apex Legends.

Valorant has the best servers it seems.

[Pitty]

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Tickrate for games.

128 ticks per second Valorant.
60 ticks per second Counter-Strike: Global Offensive and Overwatch.
30 ticks per second Fortnite and Battlefield V's.
20 ticks per second Call of Duty: Modern Warfare, Call of Duty: Warzone and Apex Legends.

Valorant has the best servers it seems.

Well csgo uses 66 tick first of all and thats only the official server. Most community servers run on 102 and 128 tickrate

[Berengas Nº1]

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Tickrate for games.

128 ticks per second Valorant.
60 ticks per second Counter-Strike: Global Offensive and Overwatch.
30 ticks per second Fortnite and Battlefield V's.
20 ticks per second Call of Duty: Modern Warfare, Call of Duty: Warzone and Apex Legends.

Valorant has the best servers it seems.

Even l4d2 that is not oriented to be competitive had 30 tickrste servers

[Pitty]

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Tickrate for games.

128 ticks per second Valorant.
60 ticks per second Counter-Strike: Global Offensive and Overwatch.
30 ticks per second Fortnite and Battlefield V's.
20 ticks per second Call of Duty: Modern Warfare, Call of Duty: Warzone and Apex Legends.

Valorant has the best servers it seems.

Well csgo uses 66 tick first of all and thats only the official server. Most community servers run on 102 and 128 tickrate

And if you know how that gameservers work its just a variable to change the tickrate of the server

[</TraumaticAI>]

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Well csgo uses 66 tick first of all and thats only the official server. Most community servers run on 102 and 128 tickrate

And if you know how that gameservers work its just a variable to change the tickrate of the server

Yeah I run game servers. Host a few steam game servers too and its literally in the configs to change this variable for most games. It seems it's either the engine can't deal with fast tickrates due to lazy devs or there servers are still the same servers from OG days and don't have the hardware there to increase tickrate. Either way. anything less than 60 ticks in 2023 is bull