Zombies Rant.

[Naughty Maggot]

Zombies is a lot of fun to play. They've done a good job with it, but it isn't perfect and I honestly expected it to be more polished after having so long to develop it.

Firstly, normal weapons are relatively weak. Even when upgraded. I always find myself having to prioritise getting to PAP and Tier upgrades just to be able to kill a handful of zombies with a single mag. Then later on, round 30+ you don't seem to get enough points back to be able to buy more ammo. That is a big problem. Especially for less skilled/ newer players. You become reliant on wunder weapons.

Maybe when we're fully upgraded with full attachements and major/minors etc. it will feel a bit better. Personally though I don't want to have to rely on Field upgrades and Gobblegums just to be able to get by. You should be able to survive and kill effectively with just your guns and perks.

Boss zombies tank your whole ammo reserve (due to weak weapons). The issue is when you get to higher rounds and you have 4 manglers spawn in and an abomination. You literally have to use wunder weapons or you will run out of ammo and points due to how spongey they are. By design Maybe that's a good thing. I don't mind harder gameplay but not being able to gain more points than they cost is a massive issue.

- Bring back points per bullet. That solves that issue.

- Put buildable barries back in the game, there are tons of spots that are literally built for barriers to be there. This makes me think they did have them at some point in the games development.

- Again, remove Salvage and workbenches. Monkeys and void grenades should go in the box. All other lethals should be wallbuys and zombies should only drop 'equiptment bags' that restore your current equipment and not drop random ones.

- Scorestreaks should only drop from elites so you can't abuse them. Remove revives, just have the QR perk, they are literally the same thing anyway.

- Armament machine is fine. PAP could still facilitate this without a menu if they designed it right. Armament machine should use points.

- Obviously salvage is here to stay unfortunately. I wish the piles dropped were two thirds smaller though. They are so big and look goofy as hell. They should be a lot smaller.

- HUD is still an issue. Where are the preset options they said we could have? They're locked for me when I checked. You still can't remove everything and the current one looks very basic/ old. We need a minimal hardcore HUD design with only the very basic pips to tell you what abilities are available etc.

- Gobblegums need to visually float in front when ready for puck up. Personally struggle to know when I can take it or when I've missed it. I appreciate that may just be a me thing.

- Armour is fine I guess. The augments make it more bearable. I'd prefer it to be more zombified but it's a core system that they don't want to get rid off. I appreciate they at least made it a wall buy. They should remove plates from the bench though. Just have it buyable from wall buys and as drops.

- Armour upgrade should cost less.

[Nox]

armor, salvage, weapon tier all is EW, i think i will go black ops 3 origins and der eisendrache. terminus is fine but idk i miss the unique maps, lets say i hope they will add later. luckily you can change the HUD and turn off the zombie health bars and etc. bored to hear MANGLER'S sound. idk i am lowkey dissapointed for now. I wish they did a classic mode for zombies like bops 1 2 and 3. maybe in future they will do these things idk, for now its little fun but the ee's are not fun like bops 3

[Naughty Maggot]

Definitely agree with the Classic mode. I also hate salvage and weapon tiers and I wish armour was done better. Like have armour sure, but let us build it like the shield and bring back carpenter.

Manglers are so boring now and we really don't need them in every map. Especially at the frequency they spawn now as well.

The new Melee perk is terrible. It needs to activate a lot quicker and do damage to multiple targets like the Origins punch ability. Maybe even give each melee weapon an alternative attack feature. So shoot is melee and then Aim is the special ability.

Baseball bat:
Sends a single zombie flying, home run style, if it hits others it does area damage/ knocks them all down.

Sledgehammer: Ground smash or spin AOE.

Knife: Hells retrieve style, infinite throwing knife.

[Nox]

Originally posted by Naughty Maggot:

Definitely agree with the Classic mode. I also hate salvage and weapon tiers and I wish armour was done better. Like have armour sure, but let us build it like the shield and bring back carpenter.

Manglers are so boring now and we really don't need them in every map. Especially at the frequency they spawn now as well.

The new Melee perk is terrible. It needs to activate a lot quicker and do damage to multiple targets like the Origins punch ability. Maybe even give each melee weapon an alternative attack feature. So shoot is melee and then Aim is the special ability.

Baseball bat:
Sends a single zombie flying, home run style, if it hits others it does area damage/ knocks them all down.

Sledgehammer: Ground smash or spin AOE.

Knife: Hells retrieve style, infinite throwing knife.

i agree all... idk as a og zombies fan little dissapointed for sure but lets see in future if they do these things or not.

[Stanlyhalo]

They should also make the player's stats maybe have less health too... 2 hits in BO1 & 2, 3 hits in 3, and ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ a dozen in BO6...

Also somehow they don't have it so each round doesn't give you +2 equipment and max ammo doesn't give max equipment. Like come on.

I appreciate the difficulty increase, Terminus map aesthetics and gameplay is fun, and gobblegums the way they are, are people dope... but I do agree with that visual indicator...

Oh and they should also remove the warzone UI, not just aesthetics but outlines around pickups & rarities. I know they won't do all this and probably won't do it at all, but also just venting here...

[Nox]

Originally posted by Stanlyhalo:

They should also make the player's stats maybe have less health too... 2 hits in BO1 & 2, 3 hits in 3, and ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ a dozen in BO6...

Also somehow they don't have it so each round doesn't give you +2 equipment and max ammo doesn't give max equipment. Like come on.

I appreciate the difficulty increase, Terminus map aesthetics and gameplay is fun, and gobblegums the way they are, are people dope... but I do agree with that visual indicator...

Oh and they should also remove the warzone UI, not just aesthetics but outlines around pickups & rarities. I know they won't do all this and probably won't do it at all, but also just venting here...

if it was same with bo3 i would have been okay with the less health but with all these manglers i dont know how its possible xd. they should have just do the zombies exactly like bo3 imo idk... like maybe they should have do 2 sections, one is classic and the other one is like mw3 zombies. problem solved. it was fun to play mw3 zombies for a period, to grind the item recipes etc. but then it was really boring to continue i mean i just played 1 week or something like that. I still miss the old zombies. rn it does not feel like the old zombies. They mixed the mw,warzone and black ops. I wish they did not mix all of these games together. maybe warzone and mw players are happy but i think %90 of the og zombies fan whos played bops since the first bops came out, i dont think they are happy (including myself) anyways, there is so many details to explain but you understand what i mean i hope. i still have fun but idk not like old times.

[Jonzuk]

the biggest issues is the crashing and lagging where everybody in the match just dies because the servers have a slight lag, this game is basically unplayable if you do high round zombies 6/10 times youll be stopped by some problem with the game

[Naughty Maggot]

One more thing I just remembered is the bouncing you off of the handrails. It's so IRRITATING! I've died numerous times when it constantly pushes you back the way you came into a zombie horde. Why is it even in the game?