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Am I a Schizo for thinking that Black Ops 6 manipulates SBMM to keep me hooked?
Title.
I remember when I was playing multiplayer in CoD MW2 2022, I had a constant feeling that, one match SBMM would put idiots into my team and tryhards into enemy, and then the next match roles would be reversed. So my winrate and K/D were almost independent of my effort.
And now, I got BO6 (PS5), and SBMM constantly puts me into lobbies where I am always on the bottom? Like, you are supposed to match me with guys of the same skill level, against other guys, too with the same level.
It kinda ruins multiplayer for me because my peak effort is not enough to be a bare minimum and to not be a dead weight for my team.
As the comparison, Titanfall's 2 Multiplayer feels kinda balanced and genuinely random. I dont feel being manipulated. Sometimes we get crushed, sometimes we crush, but mostly matches feel normal.
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Mina Oct 27, 2024 @ 8:19am 
No I know the lobbies I get next game based on how I did im usually right in guessing more deaths easier enemies

I do feel like Im being watched by the developers each game and argue talk to them in my head. The next update theyre sure to send me subliminal messages to continue their argument with me
Last edited by Mina; Oct 27, 2024 @ 8:21am
bombthezoms Oct 27, 2024 @ 8:24am 
play different gamemodes if you spam S/D or TDM the game has an easier time sorting you based on your mmr but if you have a varity or swap out gamemodes its harder for the game to do that
DuckYzZ Nov 5, 2024 @ 8:33pm 
Sbmm is not the issue, it’s the development decision to make it harder for you to kill and easier for you to be killed when you are good at the game, I.e bad skilled players can sponge bullets while you sink several rounds into them and still die

All so a game can retain a player base and keep the dollars coming in
Rabidnid Nov 5, 2024 @ 8:41pm 
Originally posted by Based_On_Cringe #FixTF2:
Title.
I remember when I was playing multiplayer in CoD MW2 2022, I had a constant feeling that, one match SBMM would put idiots into my team and tryhards into enemy, and then the next match roles would be reversed. So my winrate and K/D were almost independent of my effort.
And now, I got BO6 (PS5), and SBMM constantly puts me into lobbies where I am always on the bottom? Like, you are supposed to match me with guys of the same skill level, against other guys, too with the same level.
It kinda ruins multiplayer for me because my peak effort is not enough to be a bare minimum and to not be a dead weight for my team.
As the comparison, Titanfall's 2 Multiplayer feels kinda balanced and genuinely random. I dont feel being manipulated. Sometimes we get crushed, sometimes we crush, but mostly matches feel normal.

A. There is no such thing as SBMM.

B. The game doesn't allow for you changing weapons or being more ♥♥♥♥ one game than the next due to maps or whatever.
Nerv Nov 5, 2024 @ 9:02pm 
Originally posted by Rabidnid:
Originally posted by Based_On_Cringe #FixTF2:
Title.
I remember when I was playing multiplayer in CoD MW2 2022, I had a constant feeling that, one match SBMM would put idiots into my team and tryhards into enemy, and then the next match roles would be reversed. So my winrate and K/D were almost independent of my effort.
And now, I got BO6 (PS5), and SBMM constantly puts me into lobbies where I am always on the bottom? Like, you are supposed to match me with guys of the same skill level, against other guys, too with the same level.
It kinda ruins multiplayer for me because my peak effort is not enough to be a bare minimum and to not be a dead weight for my team.
As the comparison, Titanfall's 2 Multiplayer feels kinda balanced and genuinely random. I dont feel being manipulated. Sometimes we get crushed, sometimes we crush, but mostly matches feel normal.

A. There is no such thing as SBMM.

B. The game doesn't allow for you changing weapons or being more ♥♥♥♥ one game than the next due to maps or whatever.
sbmm is real
DuckYzZ Nov 5, 2024 @ 9:33pm 
Ranked release will solve this dilemma, as far as nsb’s comments

(Probs never professionally competed in any major title, wouldn’t notice the slightest difference)
Rabidnid Nov 5, 2024 @ 9:43pm 
Originally posted by Vel:
Originally posted by Rabidnid:

A. There is no such thing as SBMM.

B. The game doesn't allow for you changing weapons or being more ♥♥♥♥ one game than the next due to maps or whatever.
sbmm is real


Sure, they match you by K/D, but that is as far as it goes.
Trash_Jackson TTV Nov 5, 2024 @ 11:42pm 
I made a post on Reddit stating that I believe not only does SBMM fluctuate wildly, but I also am 100% convinced it ♥♥♥♥♥ with the amount of damage you do in games.

I showed a video in Hardcore where I shot a dude in the face, and it required another body shot to actually kill him. This was basically the entire match, where I needed multiple hits in Hardcore to kill anyone, whereas the previous game I was 1 tapping everyone and went something like 50/10. That match, where my bullets were basically nerfed, I went like 7/30.
starax3 Nov 25, 2024 @ 4:53pm 
Originally posted by Rabidnid:
Originally posted by Vel:
sbmm is real


Sure, they match you by K/D, but that is as far as it goes.

oblivious ass face
Originally posted by Rabidnid:
Originally posted by Vel:
sbmm is real


Sure, they match you by K/D, but that is as far as it goes.

Well, that comment didn't age well...
Last edited by autofigure; Feb 3 @ 9:17pm
Originally posted by autofigure:
Originally posted by Rabidnid:


Sure, they match you by K/D, but that is as far as it goes.

Well, that comment didn't age well...
Guy clearly has no clue what he's talking about lmao.

Also @OP you're not schizo. That's legitimately how it works. They feed you these skewed, unbalanced matches where one game you ♥♥♥♥ stomp, then the next few you're ♥♥♥♥ stomped. It's an effort to keep you "engaged" so that you'll continue playing and in turn buy some ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ out the in game store that'll be worthless and irrelevant next year unless you play warzone.
Last edited by Rim Carrey; Feb 3 @ 11:10pm
Originally posted by FISH KILL:
Originally posted by autofigure:

Well, that comment didn't age well...
Guy clearly has no clue what he's talking about lmao.

Also @OP you're not schizo. That's legitimately how it works. They feed you these skewed, unbalanced matches where one game you ♥♥♥♥ stomp, then the next few you're ♥♥♥♥ stomped. It's an effort to keep you "engaged" so that you'll continue playing and in turn buy some ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ out the in game store that'll be worthless and irrelevant next year unless you play warzone.
I hate this manipulation so much. It ruined Call of Duty for me, and my new game that I play, Marvels Rivals, it also has exact same thing, which destroyed my will to play. Because my skill and effort are literally irrelevant, no matter how hard I try, because team of restarted idiots that were put into my team by SBMM AI.
I mean, there is a solution, find a full stack team and play with them
redes Feb 4 @ 7:30am 
google US patent no. No. US20160005270A1 and see for yourself
In my opinion, there is no such thing as "SBMM" now. Sadly it is EOMM which is just algorythm which job is to keep you hooked. The same crap that is in Apex Legends.
Cody Feb 25 @ 4:00pm 
Originally posted by Based_On_Cringe #FixTF2:
Title.
I remember when I was playing multiplayer in CoD MW2 2022, I had a constant feeling that, one match SBMM would put idiots into my team and tryhards into enemy, and then the next match roles would be reversed. So my winrate and K/D were almost independent of my effort.
And now, I got BO6 (PS5), and SBMM constantly puts me into lobbies where I am always on the bottom? Like, you are supposed to match me with guys of the same skill level, against other guys, too with the same level.
It kinda ruins multiplayer for me because my peak effort is not enough to be a bare minimum and to not be a dead weight for my team.
As the comparison, Titanfall's 2 Multiplayer feels kinda balanced and genuinely random. I dont feel being manipulated. Sometimes we get crushed, sometimes we crush, but mostly matches feel normal.

this isn't called SBMM... it's called EOMM (engagement-optimized matchmaking) and yes call of duty has admitted too doing this.

ricochet is a HUGE part of the EOMM system, despite it being advertised as a kernel-level anticheat system, i recommend too just stop playing multiplayer and warzone and stop buying skins too support these people... they need to stop profiting off of unethical ideas like this... its manipulation and fraud... if no one wants too stop then have fun crying about it for the rest of Activision's life span... which appears to get shorter and shorter every day, theyre killing the game with stuff like this but the investors and players on welfare dont care.
Last edited by Cody; Feb 25 @ 4:09pm
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Date Posted: Oct 27, 2024 @ 8:16am
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