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SirDuck Feb 9, 2024 @ 3:42pm
When does SBMM kick in?
I have 85 minutes on record, my account is level 4. The game is putting me against people with levels over 200 and the matches aren't even ending close. How long does it take for the matchmaker to update so I get put in matches of similar skill.

Like I get that account level doesn't mean skill, but to have over 200 must be a few hundred hours of experience right? Meanwhile i've got just over 1 hours worth.
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f.bombers Feb 9, 2024 @ 3:52pm 
SBMM is hard to explain, but you are in SBMM when you're playing with these people. It doesn't put you with ex. people level 10 and under or so on.

You can't really figure out how SBMM works. Activision lies and trying to figure it all out will just hurt your head. Then you will need to borrow an Excedrin from me.

I have 1753 games in Warzone and I still don't know how SBMM works.

Now hurt your head with Skill-Based-Damage...

And remember Activision is not your friend.
SirDuck Feb 9, 2024 @ 3:55pm 
Originally posted by f.bombers:
Now hurt your head with Skill-Based-Damage...

Isn't all damage skill based damage? Or is there some rabbit hole where good players get weaker bullets?

And yeah I don't need to have the system all figured out. Just wanna know how long it takes to stabilise, it's very out of tune for me rn.
potato Feb 9, 2024 @ 4:00pm 
there's no skill based damage, that's tinfoil conspiracy stuff
f.bombers Feb 9, 2024 @ 4:09pm 
Originally posted by SirDuck:
Originally posted by f.bombers:
Now hurt your head with Skill-Based-Damage...

Isn't all damage skill based damage? Or is there some rabbit hole where good players get weaker bullets?

And yeah I don't need to have the system all figured out. Just wanna know how long it takes to stabilise, it's very out of tune for me rn.

Well a lot of people these days are hacking and I mean a lot. So you might be better than you think. A good RIG and 240 Hz monitor can give you a little advantage with a good internet connection. I pull 120 FPS in Warzone and I just use a $15 MSI Clutch GM08 gaming mouse and a $15 Logitech keyboard and I'm pretty good. But I've been playing for years though.

COD isn't really a SKILL based game, but you can get better at the game, takes a couple months or so to get really use to things.

With the way Activision codes the game you can never get really SKILLED at COD. Because in short Activision is cheating you with the way that they write the code.

It's not a fair game, it's just something to do to waste the little time that GOD has given you on this planet.

And yes weaker bullets in a sense.
Last edited by f.bombers; Feb 9, 2024 @ 4:18pm
f.bombers Feb 9, 2024 @ 4:22pm 
Originally posted by potato:
there's no skill based damage, that's tinfoil conspiracy stuff

Do you think that Activision are going to tell people that there is SBD?, come on now. That they are cheating their own game with the way that they code COD. Would end the so called SKILL theory.

They lie all of the time, pfft. No White List for streamers and so on and that RICOSHIT Anti- Cheat works, hahahahahahahahaha.

Please report hacks to Activision during your matches because we're to lazy to do anything with our / their $69 billion dollars to stop cheaters.
Last edited by f.bombers; Feb 9, 2024 @ 4:33pm
potato Feb 9, 2024 @ 4:24pm 
what i think is you're still salty about spending thousands of dollars on skin bundles and now mad at activision for your own screwups
f.bombers Feb 9, 2024 @ 4:24pm 
Originally posted by potato:
what i think is you're still salty about spending thousands of dollars on skin bundles and now mad at activision for your own screwups

I've gotten over that hump. Life has move on. Now looking at getting a 49" widescreen gaming monitor. The money is gone, oh well.

They could have used my money to buy a real Anti-Cheat, but no that would be silly.
Last edited by f.bombers; Feb 9, 2024 @ 4:30pm
biesoid Feb 9, 2024 @ 4:37pm 
This game will give you fun matches when it wants to give you fun matches, then it will make you suffer for some time.

If you're doing good and having fun eventually you will suffer, you will notice it.

In MW 2019 / BOCW / Vanguard the punishment cycle lasted few matches then you were getting normal ones with occasional bot match if you suffered too much, but they changed the algorithm in MW2 2022 and you could suffer for days until it started giving you normal matches and sometimes you had days of good matches.

I remember I wished I didn't buy the game because for the first week I was getting destroyed in most matches. I also remember when they released Vondel map, I had days of good matches on 6v6 Vondel playlist, felt like the old days, they clearly changed algorithm for a while.

Recently I reinstalled MW2 2022 and was having fun for one day with consistently ending at the top, even lost matches felt good, next day it's back to usual suffering, uninstalled immediately.

The SBMM in this game is not like you would expect in ranked where every player is similar rating, it's used to arrange matches where you will have fun and suffer, they're fixated with this idea that making you suffer increases your engagement or something.
Last edited by biesoid; Feb 9, 2024 @ 4:42pm
f.bombers Feb 9, 2024 @ 4:44pm 
COD is not a competitive game, it's just something to do (to waste precious time in your life and mine).

Plus, you can't trust Activisions untrustworthy / dirty coding.
Last edited by f.bombers; Feb 9, 2024 @ 4:54pm
✅PreX' Stylez Feb 9, 2024 @ 6:43pm 
Originally posted by potato:
there's no skill based damage, that's tinfoil conspiracy stuff
bro, that's cap on god i swear man everytime i get on a decent kill streak, i feel like my bullets do reduced damaged after like 5 kills
✅PreX' Stylez Feb 9, 2024 @ 6:43pm 
Originally posted by biesoid:
This game will give you fun matches when it wants to give you fun matches, then it will make you suffer for some time.

If you're doing good and having fun eventually you will suffer, you will notice it.

In MW 2019 / BOCW / Vanguard the punishment cycle lasted few matches then you were getting normal ones with occasional bot match if you suffered too much, but they changed the algorithm in MW2 2022 and you could suffer for days until it started giving you normal matches and sometimes you had days of good matches.

I remember I wished I didn't buy the game because for the first week I was getting destroyed in most matches. I also remember when they released Vondel map, I had days of good matches on 6v6 Vondel playlist, felt like the old days, they clearly changed algorithm for a while.

Recently I reinstalled MW2 2022 and was having fun for one day with consistently ending at the top, even lost matches felt good, next day it's back to usual suffering, uninstalled immediately.

The SBMM in this game is not like you would expect in ranked where every player is similar rating, it's used to arrange matches where you will have fun and suffer, they're fixated with this idea that making you suffer increases your engagement or something.
never noticed SBMM in cold war, i always ran nuketown and got gunships everygame i'd say it's the one of the easy cods since bo2
f.bombers Feb 10, 2024 @ 12:45am 
Originally posted by ✅PreX' Stylez:
Originally posted by potato:
there's no skill based damage, that's tinfoil conspiracy stuff
bro, that's cap on god i swear man everytime i get on a decent kill streak, i feel like my bullets do reduced damaged after like 5 kills

Yep, it's obvious cause you can actually see your bullets doing no damage from 10 feet away.

The enemy becomes an instant bullet sponge.
Last edited by f.bombers; Feb 10, 2024 @ 12:47am
DeadSlash Feb 10, 2024 @ 2:49am 
Originally posted by SirDuck:
I have 85 minutes on record, my account is level 4. The game is putting me against people with levels over 200 and the matches aren't even ending close. How long does it take for the matchmaker to update so I get put in matches of similar skill.

Like I get that account level doesn't mean skill, but to have over 200 must be a few hundred hours of experience right? Meanwhile i've got just over 1 hours worth.
1. This is a free weekend. There are hackers galore so the SBMM seems broken ATM because people with hacks are over performing. It should work "better" Monday.

2. Level means nothing. The other day I was on a team of all 250's and we got demolished by a team with one player over 100. I'm 265ish right now and not good. I just play every day.

Originally posted by f.bombers:
COD is not a competitive game, it's just something to do (to waste precious time in your life and mine).
To you and me maybe. Some people are wayyyyyyyyy too serious. They kill me before I see them, hit an injection and dolphin dive around a corner to kill me before I fully spawn. They are not here to relax.

Originally posted by potato:
there's no skill based damage, that's tinfoil conspiracy stuff
I agree with you a lot, but there is something to this. I had a monster game with 32 kills and 2 deaths and on the next map my sniper took 2 shots every time, unless it was a head shot. That's one example that just happened, but I've had countless maps where, after a particularly good game, I needed to hit more shots to down someone.
Last edited by DeadSlash; Feb 10, 2024 @ 2:52am
Lord0Link Feb 10, 2024 @ 4:02am 
SBMM is turned down ATM because of the free weekend to lure you into buying the game they also did this during season 01 and MWII's free weekends. + I can confirm this with my 2nd account with s*** stats that I use to session join for a easier camo grind lobby's or when I feel like goofing around with silly setups.
please. now stop talking about SBMM all the pantents and youtubers know it. and say it. SBMM no longer exists. this game has EOMM. This means that you are adjusted in your game so that you seem better. but contrary to summary, better players need more bullets to kill you. So very simple EOMM is the death of this game and that is why this game is not much popular and also negatively rated. the game sucks. Because of that system the player numbers include MW2 and Warzone. so how clearly do you want to watch this ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ game
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