*PROOF* MW3 Matches are rigged with AI bots!!

[brettapuss]

Patent and application for the patent filed in 2019: https://patents.justia.com/patent/11679330

Patent and application for patent officially patented in June&july 2023 (ready for MW3): https://patents.justia.com/patent/20230338853

The patent and the application for use of AI bots in multiplayer lobbies, mimicking player playstyles in current matches to match their skill level.

The bots will find every variable in playstyle, skill, movement etc. to create "Lifelike" AI NPC's. The patent explains that the AI NPC's can mimic players who leave a match early, instantly copy their playstyle, as if they never left.

Most likely reason Activision won’t acknowledge SBMM is because these bots run via the SBMM system they work in tandem and if they acknowledge the SBMM system. That also means acknowledging secretly adding bots that mimic players playstyles in their game which they’ve never even mentioned before and could lead to a lawsuit for misleading players.

This is the worst selling call of duty in history and it’s obvious why because it feels horrible to play with its sweaty almost scarily balanced matchmaking and it’s pretty clear now why it’s so scarily accurate with matches always being neck and neck.

This is a real patent that’s been officially patented as of June/July of this year just in time for this Call of Duty’s release. I’ll leave you with the short segment from the patent.

“ In some embodiments, NPCs created in NPC application 120 are styled by NPC profile engine 126 to resemble their corresponding human players in terms of both player profile attributes and gameplay actions such that players may not recognize NPCs as non-human, computer-controlled players”

[Pitty]

Originally posted by brettapuss:

Originally posted by Pitty:

xD dude you spitting out numbers witzh no proof at all mate xD You proven absolutly NOTHING the whole threat xD cone up with exact numbers with proof and maybe someone believe you

So you genuinely think all 82 thousand of those players are MW3 players. i thought splitting that 3 ways was pretty fair but okay lets say for argument sake mw3 had 75% of those numbers and MW2 and WZ only had 25% between them bother that would still mean 61k players which is still shockingly bad numbers. and thatys being so stupidly generous because we all know (people who arent huffing copium like yourself) the vast majority of those numbers are little kids playing warzone.

Even with that numbers your 100k are to low mate. You clearly dont know anything about what you are talking about

[brettapuss]

Originally posted by Pitty:

Originally posted by brettapuss:

So you genuinely think all 82 thousand of those players are MW3 players. i thought splitting that 3 ways was pretty fair but okay lets say for argument sake mw3 had 75% of those numbers and MW2 and WZ only had 25% between them bother that would still mean 61k players which is still shockingly bad numbers. and thatys being so stupidly generous because we all know (people who arent huffing copium like yourself) the vast majority of those numbers are little kids playing warzone.

Even with that numbers your 100k are to low mate. You clearly dont know anything about what you are talking about

not sure if its a language barrier issue, but im not claiming that MW3 is below 100k players i never claimed that. im claiming its only just staying above that and the game hasnt even barely been out a month. CoD games fall of period is usually January so by then expect the numbers to be very low.

I know where we live in an age where you can't discuss things anymore because if someone else has a different thought to your own the go to reaction is to get angry and be offended. im not trying to offend anyone i know people are very sensitive these day i just wanna have an actual discussion. even if im totally 100% wrong about the bot thing. there is the underline irrefutable proof the SBMM is so strong and so accurate that it forces for a 50% win loss rate meaning down to a very small chance of deviation your matches before they even begin are predetermined. if its your game to lose and you hit play, there is very little, nearly nothing you can do to change the outcome of that match. it will be a loss because the algorithm has said so. doesn't that bother you in the slightest. knowing your supposed muiltiplayer match that you thought could go anyway was setup from he get go. its out of your control

[tfa]

Originally posted by brettapuss:

Originally posted by Pitty:

its over 100k on all platforms combined.
on steam alone there are currently 82,231 players plaing (https://steamcharts.com/app/1938090)

Bnet playstation and xbox dont give out numbers so your argument that there are below 100k players is simply wrong.

never said it was below 100k it literally says "barely breaking 100K" that means im acknowledging its above 100K keyword being "barely"

Last 3 matches i played of 12 player tdm: 36 players and 8 pc players out of those 36 players. 3 of the pc player were on bnet. Safe to say that MW 3 is at least 4x more popular on console.

[brettapuss]

Originally posted by sd:

Originally posted by brettapuss:

never said it was below 100k it literally says "barely breaking 100K" that means im acknowledging its above 100K keyword being "barely"

Last 3 matches i played of 12 player tdm: 8 pc players out of those 36 players. 3 of the pc player were on bnet. Safe to says MW 3 has at least 4x the amount of pc players on console.

i think you'd need to do a bit more of an extensive test that 3 games to come to the conclusion of 4 times the player base on consoles. it's certainly gonna be more than pc though without a shadow of doubt. whether thats 2x 4x or even 8x we'll never truly know, but ask yourself if it was really as high as the CoD fans think (hope) it is. why hide the numbers. Remember the days of seeing the Black ops 1 globe lit up in little white pixels with an active player count right next to it. each year that number got lower and lower until they finally stopped showing it at all. really think with the current state of call of duty if that number was back up to glory days of CoD they'd be hiding it from us. Doubt it

[Pitty]

Originally posted by brettapuss:

Originally posted by Pitty:

Even with that numbers your 100k are to low mate. You clearly dont know anything about what you are talking about

not sure if its a language barrier issue, but im not claiming that MW3 is below 100k players i never claimed that. im claiming its only just staying above that and the game hasnt even barely been out a month. CoD games fall of period is usually January so by then expect the numbers to be very low.

I know where we live in an age where you can't discuss things anymore because if someone else has a different thought to your own the go to reaction is to get angry and be offended. im not trying to offend anyone i know people are very sensitive these day i just wanna have an actual discussion. even if im totally 100% wrong about the bot thing. there is the underline irrefutable proof the SBMM is so strong and so accurate that it forces for a 50% win loss rate meaning down to a very small chance of deviation your matches before they even begin are predetermined. if its your game to lose and you hit play, there is very little, nearly nothing you can do to change the outcome of that match. it will be a loss because the algorithm has said so. doesn't that bother you in the slightest. knowing your supposed muiltiplayer match that you thought could go anyway was setup from he get go. its out of your control

I know you said barley but still there are way more then 100k players but thats something you wont understand at all. And FYI Even if you go via sales you need to understand sales wont reflect the real playercount. And yes you can only get a somewhat legit number a few months after release

[brettapuss]

Originally posted by Pitty:

Originally posted by brettapuss:

not sure if its a language barrier issue, but im not claiming that MW3 is below 100k players i never claimed that. im claiming its only just staying above that and the game hasnt even barely been out a month. CoD games fall of period is usually January so by then expect the numbers to be very low.

I know where we live in an age where you can't discuss things anymore because if someone else has a different thought to your own the go to reaction is to get angry and be offended. im not trying to offend anyone i know people are very sensitive these day i just wanna have an actual discussion. even if im totally 100% wrong about the bot thing. there is the underline irrefutable proof the SBMM is so strong and so accurate that it forces for a 50% win loss rate meaning down to a very small chance of deviation your matches before they even begin are predetermined. if its your game to lose and you hit play, there is very little, nearly nothing you can do to change the outcome of that match. it will be a loss because the algorithm has said so. doesn't that bother you in the slightest. knowing your supposed muiltiplayer match that you thought could go anyway was setup from he get go. its out of your control

I know you said barley but still there are way more then 100k players but thats something you wont understand at all. And FYI Even if you go via sales you need to understand sales wont reflect the real playercount. And yes you can only get a somewhat legit number a few months after release

yes i fully understand sales and concurrent players are two very seperate things. im not under the impression MW3 barely sold 100k copies hahah. I'm not as stupid as you have very wrongly and inappropriately, pointed out on my profile and built a picture of in your head

[tfa]

Originally posted by brettapuss:

Originally posted by sd:

Last 3 matches i played of 12 player tdm: 8 pc players out of those 36 players. 3 of the pc player were on bnet. Safe to says MW 3 has at least 4x the amount of pc players on console.

i think you'd need to do a bit more of an extensive test that 3 games to come to the conclusion of 4 times the player base on consoles. it's certainly gonna be more than pc though without a shadow of doubt. whether thats 2x 4x or even 8x we'll never truly know, but ask yourself if it was really as high as the CoD fans think (hope) it is. why hide the numbers. Remember the days of seeing the Black ops 1 globe lit up in little white pixels with an active player count right next to it. each year that number got lower and lower until they finally stopped showing it at all. really think with the current state of call of duty if that number was back up to glory days of CoD they'd be hiding it from us. Doubt it

I know sales are down and rightfully so but CoD has been much more popular on console since CoD 2. Pc players are always greatly outnumbered by the console players when in the lobbies. In Black Ops 4 they had to consolidate all the objective modes into one moshpit playlist on pc because the player base was so small. They didn't have to do that on console.

[brettapuss]

Originally posted by sd:

Originally posted by brettapuss:

i think you'd need to do a bit more of an extensive test that 3 games to come to the conclusion of 4 times the player base on consoles. it's certainly gonna be more than pc though without a shadow of doubt. whether thats 2x 4x or even 8x we'll never truly know, but ask yourself if it was really as high as the CoD fans think (hope) it is. why hide the numbers. Remember the days of seeing the Black ops 1 globe lit up in little white pixels with an active player count right next to it. each year that number got lower and lower until they finally stopped showing it at all. really think with the current state of call of duty if that number was back up to glory days of CoD they'd be hiding it from us. Doubt it

I know sales are down and rightfully so but CoD has been much more popular on console since CoD 2. Pc players are always greatly outnumbered by the console players when in the lobbies. In Black Ops 4 they had to consolidate all the objective modes into one moshpit playlist on pc because the player base was so small. They didn't have to do that on console.

yeah i get you. personally i dont think the numbers they have regardless of what they are on console are anything to be proud of otherwise they wouldnt be hiding them. if it was something amazing they'd have it plastered straight on the front screen every time you load up. no games flaunt numbers anymore because no games can retain a playerbase worth showing off. In my honest opinion the main culprit behind that is rigged/fixed win/loss ratios in the form of skill based matchmaking keeping players segregated and coddling bad players with pity matches and free kills to encourage them to stick around and in turn increase the odds of them spending money in the store.

Then as a result of that the real fans the ones who have put so much time and effort in the game, long enough to be considered above average at the game or even exceptionally good are locked into lobbies with our own kind of equal skill level. never experiencing any kind of variety we never experience coming across exceptionally good players we never come across bad players or anything in between. people always think because you don't like SBMM you only want to play worse players. nobody wants that, that would be just as boring as what we have now. No SBMM brings back the randomness in multiplayer gaming, the wackiness and never knowing whats gonna happen. if you hit play in cod now you know whats gonna happen. you have no control of the match its be predetermined based on your current win loss ratio. the match is gonna be neck and neck the entire time and extremely sweaty. thats it thats the only match that exists now in cod.

[tfa]

Originally posted by brettapuss:

Originally posted by sd:

I know sales are down and rightfully so but CoD has been much more popular on console since CoD 2. Pc players are always greatly outnumbered by the console players when in the lobbies. In Black Ops 4 they had to consolidate all the objective modes into one moshpit playlist on pc because the player base was so small. They didn't have to do that on console.

yeah i get you. personally i dont think the numbers they have regardless of what they are on console are anything to be proud of otherwise they wouldnt be hiding them. if it was something amazing they'd have it plastered straight on the front screen every time you load up. no games flaunt numbers anymore because no games can retain a playerbase worth showing off. In my honest opinion the main culprit behind that is rigged/fixed win/loss ratios in the form of skill based matchmaking keeping players segregated and coddling bad players with pity matches and free kills to encourage them to stick around and in turn increase the odds of them spending money in the store.

Then as a result of that the real fans the ones who have put so much time and effort in the game, long enough to be considered above average at the game or even exceptionally good are locked into lobbies with our own kind of equal skill level. never experiencing any kind of variety we never experience coming across exceptionally good players we never come across bad players or anything in between. people always think because you don't like SBMM you only want to play worse players. nobody wants that, that would be just as boring as what we have now. No SBMM brings back the randomness in multiplayer gaming, the wackiness and never knowing whats gonna happen. if you hit play in cod now you know whats gonna happen. you have no control of the match its be predetermined based on your current win loss ratio. the match is gonna be neck and neck the entire time and extremely sweaty. thats it thats the only match that exists now in cod.

I think the rigging has little to do with it. The thread with the shuriken nerfing didn't last long and that video didn't get many views on you tube. I think it has more to do with reviews, lack of new content as well as Activiison acting like MW 2 was going to get more support during it's 2nd year.

[brettapuss]

Originally posted by sd:

Originally posted by brettapuss:

yeah i get you. personally i dont think the numbers they have regardless of what they are on console are anything to be proud of otherwise they wouldnt be hiding them. if it was something amazing they'd have it plastered straight on the front screen every time you load up. no games flaunt numbers anymore because no games can retain a playerbase worth showing off. In my honest opinion the main culprit behind that is rigged/fixed win/loss ratios in the form of skill based matchmaking keeping players segregated and coddling bad players with pity matches and free kills to encourage them to stick around and in turn increase the odds of them spending money in the store.

Then as a result of that the real fans the ones who have put so much time and effort in the game, long enough to be considered above average at the game or even exceptionally good are locked into lobbies with our own kind of equal skill level. never experiencing any kind of variety we never experience coming across exceptionally good players we never come across bad players or anything in between. people always think because you don't like SBMM you only want to play worse players. nobody wants that, that would be just as boring as what we have now. No SBMM brings back the randomness in multiplayer gaming, the wackiness and never knowing whats gonna happen. if you hit play in cod now you know whats gonna happen. you have no control of the match its be predetermined based on your current win loss ratio. the match is gonna be neck and neck the entire time and extremely sweaty. thats it thats the only match that exists now in cod.

I think the rigging has little to do with it. The thread with the shuriken nerfing didn't last long and that video didn't get many views on you tube. I think it has more to do with reviews, lack of new content as well as Activiison acting like MW 2 was going to get more support during it's 2nd year.

i just miss the social aspect of the game. getting into lobbies of all kinds. some players curb stomp you, some matches you'd be the one stomping, some matches would be close. i also miss getting into a lobbie and remaining in that lobby meeting people having laughs and good times playing a match with them then also staying in that lobby with them. the teams would get re-shuffled up again depending on if people are partied up or not. we cant have that anymore because matches disband to find new one based on your performance in that last match.

[tfa]

Originally posted by brettapuss:

Originally posted by sd:

I think the rigging has little to do with it. The thread with the shuriken nerfing didn't last long and that video didn't get many views on you tube. I think it has more to do with reviews, lack of new content as well as Activiison acting like MW 2 was going to get more support during it's 2nd year.

i just miss the social aspect of the game. getting into lobbies of all kinds. some players curb stomp you, some matches you'd be the one stomping, some matches would be close. i also miss getting into a lobbie and remaining in that lobby meeting people having laughs and good times playing a match with them then also staying in that lobby with them. the teams would get re-shuffled up again depending on if people are partied up or not. we cant have that anymore because matches disband to find new one based on your performance in that last match.

Pre crossplay CoD's were much more fun for me. It was ping based matchmaking, rolling lobbies and I didn't have to spend the beginning of a round figuring out which open mic users I needed to mute.

[MinTea]

if this is true and imho i really think it is then this is absolutely disgusting.

ive had matches recently that have had plays seemingly run in to walls and not do anything in matches, i originally thought it was de sync but im petty sure its bots.

[tfa]

Originally posted by MinTea:

if this is true and imho i really think it is then this is absolutely disgusting.

ive had matches recently that have had plays seemingly run in to walls and not do anything in matches, i originally thought it was de sync but im petty sure its bots.

It was probably people reverse boosting. A bot would at least play like they do in actual bot mode. This patent tries to keep teams from being at a disadvantage when a player leaves early.

[brettapuss]

Originally posted by sd:

Originally posted by brettapuss:

i just miss the social aspect of the game. getting into lobbies of all kinds. some players curb stomp you, some matches you'd be the one stomping, some matches would be close. i also miss getting into a lobbie and remaining in that lobby meeting people having laughs and good times playing a match with them then also staying in that lobby with them. the teams would get re-shuffled up again depending on if people are partied up or not. we cant have that anymore because matches disband to find new one based on your performance in that last match.

Pre crossplay CoD's were much more fun for me. It was ping based matchmaking, rolling lobbies and I didn't have to spend the beginning of a round figuring out which open mic users I needed to mute.

definitely nice to see someones actual opinion on things they miss, dislike etc rather than a nothing burger response of just name calling, crappy one liners without an actual opinion to share. it would be amazing to get ping based matchmaking again with post game lobbies and have SBMM significantly de-prioritised like it used to be.

[LetM3WorK]

Originally posted by sd:

Originally posted by LetM3WorK:

You guys are so dumb it's hilarious. A patent doesn't prove anything unless you are saying all the bizarre US military patents are real. So a "gay bomb" exists.

And the patent is to replace players who leave a game. Nothing sinister about that.

Yeah, I'm just trying to use his logic against him. When Fortnite does it they get praised, but in COD people cry. There are way worse things going on like the AI chat moderation and lobbies disbanding. But they barely mention those. They need anything to cope with the fact that they suck at the game.