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BuildtheWall Mar 20, 2023 @ 6:14pm
Aimbot out of control
When are they going to remove aimbot from controller or allow us to disable crossplay? Almost all games the top 2-3 are controller users abusing their aimbot. If it's dialed in, it's exactly like classic aimbot. Put all the controller cheaters in lobbies together so they can jump and swing and have their crosshairs lock on through flashbangs, smoke, walls, etc.
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KripTed Mar 21, 2023 @ 4:33am 
It’s called giving us options to choose. Not forcing us to play against aim assist and no recoil.

Can’t beat a machine, has nothing to do with skill. But go ahead and ruin the future of FPS gaming with your attitudes above. It’s an unfair advantage. If I wanted to use a controller, I would have bought it on console.

How can anyone take the rank games serious? When one input has aim assisted aimbot and no recoil? While the other one doesn’t? Using built in artificial aiming is the definition of no skill.

Why else do you think these ppl do the ADS glitch of zooming in and out over and over? Cause their aimbot works better when you first zoom in.

Activision even admitted it themselves that PC players are at a disadvantage statistically.

https://imgur.io/a/Y31aVUz

Anyone who agree’s with this practice is dense. Which is apparent from the few ppl above.
Last edited by KripTed; Mar 21, 2023 @ 4:37am
KripTed Mar 21, 2023 @ 4:34am 
Originally posted by DeathlyPuke:
Originally posted by KripTed:
It’s called giving us options to choose. Not forcing us to play against aim assist and no recoil.

Can’t beat a machine, has nothing to do with skill. But go ahead and ruin the future of FPS gaming with your attitudes above. It’s an unfair advantage. If I wanted to use a controller, I would have bought it on console.

How can anyone take the rank games serious? When one input has aim assisted aimbot and no recoil? While the other one doesn’t? Using built in artificial aiming is the definition of no skill.

Why else do you think these ppl do the ADS glitch of zooming in and out over and over? Cause their aimbot works better when you first zoom in.

Anyone who agree’s with this practice is dense. Which is apparent from the few posts above.
next year I won't buy cod on release, I'll wait and see what pc players say and then I'll decide, if they keep this aim assist I'm retiring from cod

Oh they aren’t getting my money anymore until ranked lobbies are separated by inputs.
ACDCnLedZeppelin Mar 21, 2023 @ 4:40am 
Originally posted by KripTed:
It’s called giving us options to choose. Not forcing us to play against aim assist and no recoil.

Can’t beat a machine, has nothing to do with skill. But go ahead and ruin the future of FPS gaming with your attitudes above. It’s an unfair advantage. If I wanted to use a controller, I would have bought it on console.

How can anyone take the rank games serious? When one input has aim assisted aimbot and no recoil? While the other one doesn’t? Using built in artificial aiming is the definition of no skill.

Why else do you think these ppl do the ADS glitch of zooming in and out over and over? Cause their aimbot works better when you first zoom in.

Activision even admitted it themselves that PC players are at a disadvantage statistically.

https://imgur.io/a/Y31aVUz

Anyone who agree’s with this practice is dense. Which is apparent from the few posts above.

The aim assist does not offer no recoil that my friend is either someone using a script or a Cronus Zen.
KripTed Mar 21, 2023 @ 4:48am 
Originally posted by ACDCnLedZeppelin:
Originally posted by KripTed:
It’s called giving us options to choose. Not forcing us to play against aim assist and no recoil.

Can’t beat a machine, has nothing to do with skill. But go ahead and ruin the future of FPS gaming with your attitudes above. It’s an unfair advantage. If I wanted to use a controller, I would have bought it on console.

How can anyone take the rank games serious? When one input has aim assisted aimbot and no recoil? While the other one doesn’t? Using built in artificial aiming is the definition of no skill.

Why else do you think these ppl do the ADS glitch of zooming in and out over and over? Cause their aimbot works better when you first zoom in.

Activision even admitted it themselves that PC players are at a disadvantage statistically.

https://imgur.io/a/Y31aVUz

Anyone who agree’s with this practice is dense. Which is apparent from the few posts above.

The aim assist does not offer no recoil that my friend is either someone using a script or a Cronus Zen.

Well, everyone in ranked is using Cronus Zen then. Cause every match that a controller player kills me he has lock on and no recoil. Even every streamer as well.
Last edited by KripTed; Mar 21, 2023 @ 4:54am
Naughty Maggot Mar 21, 2023 @ 5:11am 
I honestly don't think these people defending this actually understand how it works. They claim to be great KB&M players that never have an issue with aim assist, they're either lying or they secretly play on controller themselves or they genuinely are oblivious to the situation and how it is affecting the FPS genre.
Yes the mouse is the superior peripheral, yes controllers need assist to level the playing field generally speaking.

The main issues with the controller is, well firstly IMO, is the fact that players can use pass through hardware with it to cheat. They can even use a KB&M setup and disguise it as a controller to get aim assist on a mouse, as well as run scripts to remove recoil and improve aim assist etc. and hundreds of thousands if not millions of players own these devices.

Secondly is the aim assist level itself. Currently it is tuned in a way that aids novice players adequately.
New players to the game or to FPS games in general. It is tuned to help them and give them an enjoyable experience to retain them as a customer.
IMO i think that for regular COD players who have only played the last one or two titles it is ok, if not maybe slightly too strong.
For veterans of COD and FPS games in general, who use controllers regularly, I believe it's vastly overtuned for them.
And then PRO controller players, it is an aim bot. Controller players that can consistently aim on target they just don't miss any shots.
The devs actually said themselves that it is overtuned and KB&M players are at a disadvantage currently.

Aim assist slow down is fine. But the tracking aim that makes millisecond perfect adjustment to track player movement that no human can replicate, it's beyond cheating and IMO is cancer for the FPS gaming industry. It hard locks the skill gap. Turning engagements into who can shoot first or get the positional advantage. It destroys movement skill, in fact movement actually improves the aim assist. Some engagements you might actually just be better off standing completely still.

Hell I'd be happy if they completely overtuned the slowdown aim assist just as long as the tracking "rotational" is removed from the game forever. Sure if their aim stops dead on me and deletes me then that is completely my fault. At least you can evade and use movement effectively again and if they do kill you then it is 100% from their own input and tracking you regardless of how strong the slowdown is.

So not only can you cheat on the controller platform and be completely undetected at a level that almost rivals aimbot on PC, but also the aim assist currently gives you an advantage on average over mouse users. Unless you have little experience playing games or FPS titles and even then you will probably be at a greater advantage to someone who is in the same predicament but chose to start on KB&M instead.

The thing is for me, I get it, I dominate most controller players and the few times their aim assist deletes me I shouldn't be upset about it I guess. But it's getting to the point where if I'm not absolutely playing my arse off then a controller player who isn't as good at the game will casually aim at me and delete me without missing a bullet and it's all down to aim assist and it's now getting to be every gun fight.
There's absolutely no chill in COD anymore and you cannot trust anyone playing on controller to be legitimate with how many people are using that peripheral to get away with cheating through ZEN or XIM or whatever else is out there.
I'd rather just play against people that have KB&M because it will never have asisted aim and if they are cheating then it is blatantly obvious and there is also anti-cheat systems in place to detect them, eventually they will be banned.

The best way to play the game currently would be to use KB&M on a console because there's currently no hardware to facilitate scripst in that way and getting hacks onto a console is extremely problematic.

Life story over.
TLDR: Controller aim assist is overtuned for regular/ pro players and the amount of players using undetectable hardware/scripst on them is ridiculous.
Last edited by Naughty Maggot; Mar 21, 2023 @ 5:20am
KripTed Mar 21, 2023 @ 5:31am 
Originally posted by Naughty Maggot:
I honestly don't think these people defending this actually understand how it works. They claim to be great KB&M players that never have an issue with aim assist, they're either lying or they secretly play on controller themselves or they genuinely are oblivious to the situation and how it is affecting the FPS genre.
Yes the mouse is the superior peripheral, yes controllers need assist to level the playing field generally speaking.

The main issues with the controller is, well firstly IMO, is the fact that players can use pass through hardware with it to cheat. They can even use a KB&M setup and disguise it as a controller to get aim assist on a mouse, as well as run scripts to remove recoil and improve aim assist etc. and hundreds of thousands if not millions of players own these devices.

Secondly is the aim assist level itself. Currently it is tuned in a way that aids novice players adequately.
New players to the game or to FPS games in general. It is tuned to help them and give them an enjoyable experience to retain them as a customer.
IMO i think that for regular COD players who have only played the last one or two titles it is ok, if not maybe slightly too strong.
For veterans of COD and FPS games in general, who use controllers regularly, I believe it's vastly overtuned for them.
And then PRO controller players, it is an aim bot. Controller players that can consistently aim on target they just don't miss any shots.
The devs actually said themselves that it is overtuned and KB&M players are at a disadvantage currently.

Aim assist slow down is fine. But the tracking aim that makes millisecond perfect adjustment to track player movement that no human can replicate, it's beyond cheating and IMO is cancer for the FPS gaming industry. It hard locks the skill gap. Turning engagements into who can shoot first or get the positional advantage. It destroys movement skill, in fact movement actually improves the aim assist. Some engagements you might actually just be better off standing completely still.

Hell I'd be happy if they completely overtuned the slowdown aim assist just as long as the tracking "rotational" is removed from the game forever. Sure if their aim stops dead on me and deletes me then that is completely my fault. At least you can evade and use movement effectively again and if they do kill you then it is 100% from their own input and tracking you regardless of how strong the slowdown is.

So not only can you cheat on the controller platform and be completely undetected at a level that almost rivals aimbot on PC, but also the aim assist currently gives you an advantage on average over mouse users. Unless you have little experience playing games or FPS titles and even then you will probably be at a greater advantage to someone who is in the same predicament but chose to start on KB&M instead.

The thing is for me, I get it, I dominate most controller players and the few times their aim assist deletes me I shouldn't be upset about it I guess. But it's getting to the point where if I'm not absolutely playing my arse off then a controller player who isn't as good at the game will casually aim at me and delete me without missing a bullet and it's all down to aim assist and it's now getting to be every gun fight.
There's absolutely no chill in COD anymore and you cannot trust anyone playing on controller to be legitimate with how many people are using that peripheral to get away with cheating through ZEN or XIM or whatever else is out there.
I'd rather just play against people that have KB&M because it will never have asisted aim and if they are cheating then it is blatantly obvious and there is also anti-cheat systems in place to detect them, eventually they will be banned.

The best way to play the game currently would be to use KB&M on a console because there's currently no hardware to facilitate scripst in that way and getting hacks onto a console is extremely problematic.

Life story over.
TLDR: Controller aim assist is overtuned for regular/ pro players and the amount of players using undetectable hardware/scripst on them is ridiculous.

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Originally posted by Naughty Maggot:
I honestly don't think these people defending this actually understand how it works. They claim to be great KB&M players that never have an issue with aim assist, they're either lying or they secretly play on controller themselves or they genuinely are oblivious to the situation and how it is affecting the FPS genre.
Yes the mouse is the superior peripheral, yes controllers need assist to level the playing field generally speaking.

The main issues with the controller is, well firstly IMO, is the fact that players can use pass through hardware with it to cheat. They can even use a KB&M setup and disguise it as a controller to get aim assist on a mouse, as well as run scripts to remove recoil and improve aim assist etc. and hundreds of thousands if not millions of players own these devices.

Secondly is the aim assist level itself. Currently it is tuned in a way that aids novice players adequately.
New players to the game or to FPS games in general. It is tuned to help them and give them an enjoyable experience to retain them as a customer.
IMO i think that for regular COD players who have only played the last one or two titles it is ok, if not maybe slightly too strong.
For veterans of COD and FPS games in general, who use controllers regularly, I believe it's vastly overtuned for them.
And then PRO controller players, it is an aim bot. Controller players that can consistently aim on target they just don't miss any shots.
The devs actually said themselves that it is overtuned and KB&M players are at a disadvantage currently.

Aim assist slow down is fine. But the tracking aim that makes millisecond perfect adjustment to track player movement that no human can replicate, it's beyond cheating and IMO is cancer for the FPS gaming industry. It hard locks the skill gap. Turning engagements into who can shoot first or get the positional advantage. It destroys movement skill, in fact movement actually improves the aim assist. Some engagements you might actually just be better off standing completely still.

Hell I'd be happy if they completely overtuned the slowdown aim assist just as long as the tracking "rotational" is removed from the game forever. Sure if their aim stops dead on me and deletes me then that is completely my fault. At least you can evade and use movement effectively again and if they do kill you then it is 100% from their own input and tracking you regardless of how strong the slowdown is.

So not only can you cheat on the controller platform and be completely undetected at a level that almost rivals aimbot on PC, but also the aim assist currently gives you an advantage on average over mouse users. Unless you have little experience playing games or FPS titles and even then you will probably be at a greater advantage to someone who is in the same predicament but chose to start on KB&M instead.

The thing is for me, I get it, I dominate most controller players and the few times their aim assist deletes me I shouldn't be upset about it I guess. But it's getting to the point where if I'm not absolutely playing my arse off then a controller player who isn't as good at the game will casually aim at me and delete me without missing a bullet and it's all down to aim assist and it's now getting to be every gun fight.
There's absolutely no chill in COD anymore and you cannot trust anyone playing on controller to be legitimate with how many people are using that peripheral to get away with cheating through ZEN or XIM or whatever else is out there.
I'd rather just play against people that have KB&M because it will never have asisted aim and if they are cheating then it is blatantly obvious and there is also anti-cheat systems in place to detect them, eventually they will be banned.

The best way to play the game currently would be to use KB&M on a console because there's currently no hardware to facilitate scripst in that way and getting hacks onto a console is extremely problematic.

Life story over.
TLDR: Controller aim assist is overtuned for regular/ pro players and the amount of players using undetectable hardware/scripst on them is ridiculous.
they are lying, some people come here for the sake of disagreeing without ever having a single reasonable argument, it's their way of feeling empowered and getting validation from other trolls and clueless users
Fren Mar 21, 2023 @ 7:10am 
Originally posted by RozeHelms Forever:
Hacking is out of control on pc Flying tanks hackers warping not even aim assist can save you from that
flying tanks? bruh wtf are you on
p00se2 Mar 21, 2023 @ 7:15am 
Originally posted by Fren:
flying tanks? bruh wtf are you on

its a pokemon evolution

it started with flying boats
now its flying tanks

seems fine :summeryeti:
Raansu Mar 21, 2023 @ 7:21am 
Originally posted by Fear2288:
Originally posted by mimic:
this. if your getting beat by controller players just join them, or stop ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ and get better because you have no skill on M&k.
This.

The amount of crying over this is ridiculous. Ya’ll make it sound like all a controller user needs to do is pull the ADS trigger and their crosshair zips to, locks onto, and follows the target.

That’s not how it is at all.

I think many of you complaining just aren’t that good at the game and you’re rallying on this to cope with that fact and make excuses for your average skill level.

I've tried explaining to these people several times how the aim assist bubble works, but they just want to keep making excuses for why they are bad.

Originally posted by KripTed:
Originally posted by ACDCnLedZeppelin:

The aim assist does not offer no recoil that my friend is either someone using a script or a Cronus Zen.

Well, everyone in ranked is using Cronus Zen then. Cause every match that a controller player kills me he has lock on and no recoil. Even every streamer as well.

News flash, people playing ranked are going to be higher skilled than quick match and are going to take things more seriously by creating gun builds with attachments that reduce recoil..... Shocking I know, but spend 5 minutes on google and you'll find those builds that * gasp * also have no recoil on mouse as well.
Last edited by Raansu; Mar 21, 2023 @ 7:24am
p00se2 Mar 21, 2023 @ 7:29am 
Originally posted by ランス:
no recoil on mouse as well.


and what attachments removes visual recoil ? :summeryeti:
Ducky Mar 21, 2023 @ 7:41am 
Originally posted by p00se2:
Originally posted by ランス:
no recoil on mouse as well.


and what attachments removes visual recoil ? :summeryeti:
that attachment is called cronus zen xD
Last edited by Ducky; Mar 21, 2023 @ 7:42am
AUGU$TO CE$AR™ Mar 21, 2023 @ 8:16am 
Originally posted by BuildtheWall:
When are they going to remove aimbot from controller or allow us to disable crossplay? Almost all games the top 2-3 are controller users abusing their aimbot. If it's dialed in, it's exactly like classic aimbot. Put all the controller cheaters in lobbies together so they can jump and swing and have their crosshairs lock on through flashbangs, smoke, walls, etc.
its not aim bot, it is controle players....
Blueknight719 Mar 21, 2023 @ 9:31am 
Originally posted by Fren:
Originally posted by RozeHelms Forever:
Hacking is out of control on pc Flying tanks hackers warping not even aim assist can save you from that
flying tanks? bruh wtf are you on
Saw a floating bottle of water and bots that only were visible from the waist up. Guess anything is possible.
Raansu Mar 21, 2023 @ 10:57am 
Originally posted by Ducky:
Originally posted by p00se2:


and what attachments removes visual recoil ? :summeryeti:
that attachment is called cronus zen xD

Cronus wouldn't be able to do that because it doesn't interact with the game directly. If you're seeing a gun showing no animations its either a bug with kill cam or an actual hack injected into the game.
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