Avoiding this game as a mkb user is a matter of self-respect

[Ryles]

I can't believe it took me so long to figure this out. I have Orion and all mastery on the riot shield (meaning I got 1000 extra kills with it).

We're all (probably) here because Call of Duty is fast, snappy, and modern.

But until this year, where objectively overpowered auto-aim was put on controllers and the option to turn crossplay off was removed after beta (to say nothing of SBMM), Modern Warfare II is missing a critical component.

This game does not respect your skill.

If you have a good game, it's not because you're a good player. It's because the matchmaking decides it's time for you to have a good game. If you have a bad game, it's not because you suck. It's because the matchmaking decides you've been performing too well for long enough. If you use a controller, then snapping from target to target is as simple as maximizing sensitivity and simply holding the right stick down towards a target while moving the left stick a little.

Sure, you can actually get better at the game - but the game doesn't care. There is nothing to work towards as a player. You grind for unlocks, but increasing in skill is meaningless for all but the top 0.01% of the playerbase.

Compare this with the vast majority of other multiplayer games. Matchmaking often involves measures of skill, but within the context of a visible ranking system that gives you meaningful goals, and not just in order to try to get you to stick around and invest in the microtransactions. You're given real opposition to compete with as opposed to competing with someone else's handicap.

Spending time playing video games already has an undertone of "look at this loser wasting time" that people on this very forum evoke, and not entirely out of irony. So why play a game built without care for what you put into it when there are much, much better alternatives?

If I'm going to put time into something that's supposed to be entertainment, I can do better than this - and so can you.




Seriously, I can't even imagine enjoying this with a controller. What's it like to know the game is basically playing itself?

Edit: While controller factors into the conclusion that the game does not respect your skill, this isn't meant to be a controller thread. There are other, bigger threads for that. That said, denial that controller is a superior way to play the game has been extensively debunked by the best players in the game and anyone continuing to pretend otherwise is either deluded or surely trolling - do not respond to them.

[Dub U]

207 hours in, the aim assist is unreal but I still manage to stomp on console kids. I look at it as a challenge when I queue up with a full lobby of console players. Gotta represent the PC Master Race.

[Crispy]

Hi, my name is Crispy, and I love kicking console asses with my friends. Sure, we will lose when the matchmaking decides that enough is enough, but we still have fun getting called out as "cheaters" :D Very tasty salt

[ShadowDark3]

Originally posted by Ryles:

But until this year, where objectively overpowered auto-aim was put on controllers

*Subjectively overpowered.

As for the rest of your post, the game is fun. If something is fun, I don't need anything to work towards.

I'm also a bit confused, because you mention SBMM like it's a bad thing, but then go on to describe how other games give "real opposition to compete with." Despite your assertions, you can win any match you're thrown into with enough skill. At the start of every match, you are on even ground, zero to zero, but you seem to be saying that the outcome of this match is pre-determined?

Either your team wins, in which case well done, or you lose, in which case you weren't good enough to beat the other team. If you are on the top of your team's leader board by a significant margin then I would hope you had a fun time racking up all those points. You were probably a nightmare for the other team and it's unfortunate that you couldn't win, but this kind of mismatch happens in any multiplayer game.

I'm sorry to hear you're so frustrated with the game, but I feel like this CoD has taken so many steps to respect my time more than previous entries in the series have.

[Hamless Hog]

What about the players that arent having these issues as a kbm user?

[burntheworld27]

Originally posted by Hogarth:

What about the players that arent having these issues as a kbm user?

youre either trash at the game or purposefully poisoning the well for this discussion point. the aim assist is the game playing itself. there is zero skill involved with how strong the AA is in this game. zero. thats objective on all points.

[Hamless Hog]

Originally posted by burntheworld27:

Originally posted by Hogarth:

What about the players that arent having these issues as a kbm user?

youre either trash at the game or purposefully poisoning the well for this discussion point. the aim assist is the game playing itself. there is zero skill involved with how strong the AA is in this game. zero. thats objective on all points.

Why would you think im trash if im not having problems against controllers players whilsts others are? If anything wouldnt that suggest that im not trash?

[burntheworld27]

Originally posted by Hogarth:

Originally posted by burntheworld27:

youre either trash at the game or purposefully poisoning the well for this discussion point. the aim assist is the game playing itself. there is zero skill involved with how strong the AA is in this game. zero. thats objective on all points.

Why would you think im trash if im not having problems against controllers players whilsts others are? If anything wouldnt that suggest that im not trash?

ahh i see... youre hyper active on all the steam discussions defending this ♥♥♥♥ which tells me one of two things. you are a controller user or just a troll. go back to the other thread where everyone is trashing you and your room temp iq takes.

[Hamless Hog]

Originally posted by burntheworld27:

Originally posted by Hogarth:

Why would you think im trash if im not having problems against controllers players whilsts others are? If anything wouldnt that suggest that im not trash?

ahh i see... youre hyper active on all the steam discussions defending this ♥♥♥♥ which tells me one of two things. you are a controller user or just a troll. go back to the other thread where everyone is trashing you and your room temp iq takes.

Not all you seem to have me confused with someone else. Im not a controller user, why is it you think im a troll?

Theres really no need to get so upset.

[burntheworld27]

Originally posted by Hogarth:

Originally posted by burntheworld27:

ahh i see... youre hyper active on all the steam discussions defending this ♥♥♥♥ which tells me one of two things. you are a controller user or just a troll. go back to the other thread where everyone is trashing you and your room temp iq takes.

Not all you seem to have me confused with someone else. Im not a controller user, why is it you think im a troll?

Theres really no need to get so upset.

the aim assist thread that is currently top of the discussions everyone seems to know your name, thats never a good thing.

[Hamless Hog]

Originally posted by burntheworld27:

Originally posted by Hogarth:

Not all you seem to have me confused with someone else. Im not a controller user, why is it you think im a troll?

Theres really no need to get so upset.

the aim assist thread that is currently top of the discussions everyone seems to know your name, thats never a good thing.

Why are you even quoting me if youre just going to ignore the comment? Im still confused as to why you think im a troll. I can show you a video of me using kbm?

[RumHam]

Kbm lobbies are five times more sweaty, controller lobbies are a godsend.

[Moo Cow]

I play controller despite being on PC just because I vastly prefer it and in the two days I've been playing, aside two exceptions, I've only been put into controller only lobbies. The two exceptions there was one person who was using keyboard and they did fine. Also, my aim assist doesn't do much, it certainly doesn't track anything for me

[Moo Cow]

Originally posted by superblake_:

Originally posted by Moo Cow:

I play controller despite being on PC just because I vastly prefer it and in the two days I've been playing, aside two exceptions, I've only been put into controller only lobbies. The two exceptions there was one person who was using keyboard and they did fine. Also, my aim assist doesn't do much, it certainly doesn't track anything for me

it does not track players that is people that are using the gyro. to make it looks like it is tracking players the gyro is based of you moving your controller. i even retested the aim assist with the setting that people said that make it op it does not track players.

Either way I don't get the complaining.

[snkzy]

delusional controller players thread

[shipdesignerdude]

And yet I still outperform my Controller friends.... I honestly just snipe in warzone now because I still have an advantage in that.