slugshots CONSTANTLY MISSING...

[Mattman]

so i use shotguns as secondaries on lots of my loadouts, all having slug shots. and the freaking lockwood shotgun MISSES CONSTANTLY with direct hits that it's beyond agitating. the only good shotgun that actually hits with the slugshots is the expedite 12....

i use full on hipfire accuracy builds and i'm actually pretty decent flicking using said shotguns. i've gotten a final kill cam last night that showed 2 DIRECT HIT misses with the final kill being a MISS. idk the name of the shotgun off the top, something 800?

i swear to sweet baby jesus that i can make a montage on this game specifically based upon DIRECT hit shotgun misses. and trust me i can see on my screen rather nicely it's 4k.
all my drives are too full to even consider doing so, so i won't delete games just to prove a point via montages. so fangirls can melt like a RTX 4090 power pin.

[Noxsa]

its the SBMM that said to you "sorry you are to good at this moment, so i remove hitbox"
you did not miss, the game just said NOAP no count.

[Charmander787]

Just use regular rounds then?

[ST4RBOY]

It's not just slugs, Myself and many others have done testing and can confirm that there is a bug in the hit reg. system itself, not just slugs.

[SooperBoomer]

Slug shot and explosive still use pellet spread for some reason. Even though its a single shot its random in a cone just like pellets. Not sure if IW is even aware.

[Noxsa]

Originally posted by XoST4RBOYoX:

It's not just slugs, Myself and many others have done testing and can confirm that there is a bug in the hit reg. system itself, not just slugs.

you call it a bug, i call it by design. "does not mean i like it or agree btw"
i'v had snipers that turn from half a match "one shot kills" to "two shot or even 3 hit kills"
mines that normal kill, become so nerfed an enemy can run over and not be dead from it.
and all that because i pop off and play better then the rest "on that moment". plenty of other threads that mention this

[Mattman]

ahh thought i was the only one, thanks for the input broski's

[Ratch]

Test your loadout/tune and actually use the firing range. Most often people test their "laser pointer" loadout while standing perfectly still taking measured shots. You should be flailing, moving, sprinting, spraying, etc to get the full spectrum of how your loadout/tune fares. I fall victim to this too. I'll tune a Deagle to be a Pocket Sniper, only test it in a vaccuum then get surprised when the gun is useless in the field.

Slugs work as intended for me and behave accordingly when under-fire, etc. Slugs behave like a marksman rifle with smg range...so the pistol grip SP-B or whatever with the short barrel. Accurate in ideal conditions and drastically less accurate as shooting conditions decline.

Since shotguns are generally run n gun, slugs are the worst option as they punish being mobile/quick shots.
Slugs are a meme as are Dragon's Breath and Explosive rounds. Just use buckshot.

t. Shotgun simp

[Mattman]

Originally posted by ratch:

Test your loadout/tune and actually use the firing range. Most often people test their "laser pointer" loadout while standing perfectly still taking measured shots. You should be flailing, moving, sprinting, spraying, etc to get the full spectrum of how your loadout/tune fares. I fall victim to this too. I'll tune a Deagle to be a Pocket Sniper, only test it in a vaccuum then get surprised when the gun is useless in the field.

Slugs work as intended for me and behave accordingly when under-fire, etc. Slugs behave like a marksman rifle with smg range...so the pistol grip SP-B or whatever with the short barrel. Accurate in ideal conditions and drastically less accurate as shooting conditions decline.

Since shotguns are generally run n gun, slugs are the worst option as they punish being mobile/quick shots.
Slugs are a meme as are Dragon's Breath and Explosive rounds. Just use buckshot.

t. Shotgun simp

first off, i'm a sniper simp not a shotgun simp, second off i'm not trying to quickscope cringe smg plebes every single map, once the smg plebes piss me off they meet the shotgun or a smg back. 3rd off read XoST4RBOYoX's comment. 4th off guess what, i don't run and gun son, i'm not one of those plebes i'm a quickscoper we have to WALK to properly utilize ADS builds, i don't use sprint to fire builds on snipers because they're dogwater. and finally testing a shotgun in the firing range XD, bro i play to snipe, i play to quickscope. i don't play this dogwater game to get down to the exact molecule of how the game works. if the base hip fire builds are straight dog shpoop then it's on the developers end, i shouldn't have to "tune" my gun utilizing a firing range to fix issues that activision brought to use probably due to the fact tuning is existing in the game.

conclussion, you're the simp.

[Neon x ッ]

To be honest, slugs are meant to be used aiming down sight. If you're hipfiring you're very likely to miss those shots.

[mk]

They shouldve kept the slug and pellet combo ammo from Vanguard that was the best ammo hands down.

[landmass]

You're basically hip firing a sniper rifle at that point... ADS if you're using slugs

[Mattman]

before i made this post i DID ADS with the lockwood, and it STILL missed. i only ADS'd because it KEPT MISSING. as i said in the very first post, the expedition 12 or w/e it's called absolutely smacks hip fire with slug shots, barely misses. (still does)

[r0llinlacs]

With slugs it's all about aiming idle stability. You won't hit ♥♥♥♥ without it (even if your reticle is spot on) and you can only tune it so far for each shotgun, some better than others.

It's a stupid balance thing. Shotguns have to be useless or AR and SMG babies cry.

[Mattman]

Originally posted by r0llinlacs:

With slugs it's all about aiming idle stability. You won't hit ♥♥♥♥ without it (even if your reticle is spot on) and you can only tune it so far for each shotgun, some better than others.

It's a stupid balance thing. Shotguns have to be useless or AR and SMG babies cry.

now someone is making sense, thanks for that info. i'll tune them to to specs you said. and check that out.

sidenote (this is not directed towards anyone)

irl slugs are extremely accurate and can pull killing blows from ridiculous ranges. police officers use them, germany lost it's invasion in ww2 due to slugs causing them to lose. and this game they're absolutely dog shpoop? COD always tended to the ar/smg babies, and changed their diapers. i'm just glad the sniping is juicy at least because if it wasn't i would never look at cod games ever. (except for zombies, zombies is love)

only said above statement because when i get a hit marker from someone 10 feet away with a slug it outrages me, because all you have is a freaking split second of time before you get melted unless you're behind the enemy.

and yet i sniped a guy from ridiculous range 1 shot him with a basilisk.

[漂流者]

Originally posted by XoST4RBOYoX:

It's not just slugs, Myself and many others have done testing and can confirm that there is a bug in the hit reg. system itself, not just slugs.

i can confirm i was shooting a guy pointblank without him moving in the DMZ today with an AR and 1st half of the clip so around 15 bullets or so didn't register at all and only after those 3 bullets finally gave me a hit sound & mark but then i died since obviously i did basically no dmg while the enemy was constantly hitting me somehow...

I swear it makes me think the game is spawning invisible 1 side walls infront of me or my target at least.... letting them hit me but somehow not letting my bullets register "-"