Aim Assist

[Psycha]

I've been trying to explain to people that you cant just simply plug a controller into your PC and play like console players do..

You need to use low aim assist settings to keep your tracking clean. When console aim assist is FULL TRACKING LIKE AIM BOT.

I played black ops 1 - 2 on xbox for 3 years and when I went to PC and plugged a controller into MW2019 it wasn't the same, I had to try to aim to track. On that console, it did the work for me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=avs4KL66FuU (Video explaining the simple difference between PC with a controller and a console)

Aim assist is tuned and varied in different games but the general idea is the same so don't get that confused here since the video is from Apex.

-----If Anyone has clips of broken aim assist moments post them in comments-----

Here is a MW2019 player testing an aim assist patch he was told about.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kl9WSlWWT5M

He uses different settings to show how it works and when he gets to the bottom settings it just gets stupid clear.

No one has posted an aim assist comparison with MW2019 and MWII but I am asking for someone to do it and show Infinity Ward and the haters that aim assist and crossplay is bad for a competitive shooter.

(awaits clown awards I guess... I'd rather not be awarded anything, I dont want your points I just want my games to be fun)


Complete guide to Aim Assist on controllers for MW2.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XDbJSBmfdBE


Rotational Aim Assist abuse explained simply in this short

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/DcU-33C0OLg

"Pro" player using rotational aim assist explaining how to get better at aiming. You can tell when he slightly uses movement during each kill left and right in very tiny motions to kick the aim assist in. When he is stationary on kills his gun sways a bit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NUgmNoOxCb8

0:56 - Not using rotational stick

1:03 - Uses rotational slightly to kick the aim assist in. Refer to youtube short above for why saying this is important.


https://www.youtube.com/shorts/7a7IuWgz9r8 - Laggy but funny looking clip about aim assist

Yet another fine example of Aim Assist in action: https://www.reddit.com/r/ModernWarfareII/comments/ykdqhs/aim_assist_isnt_overpowered/


Another video of aim assist from a guy who doesnt play with a controller much at all: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MulOV0j2QU0

Enjoy your copium infinity ward, thanks for the free aimbot. Ordering a controller now I guess.

[Psycha]

Originally posted by Shadowhunter:

People need to stop call games competitive when crossplay is in it and treat it as such.
It is only a fun game, there is no competitive area in it at that point.
To be a competitive game you need to set up equal grounds for the competition.

You wouldn't call it competitive either if a runner is facing a guy in a wheelchair that drives 80mph.

Tell that to SBMM but that is a whole other post to make :p

[MonsterAb1]

Originally posted by SooperBoomer:

Are all the Streamers switching to controller? I just noticed DrDisrespect is playing with a controller. I thought he was a M&K player?

He has said many times already that this game is built for controller and the aim assist is strong.

[ExE]

Originally posted by Entity:

Ofc controller is much easier for new players, even my little 5yo brother can play with controller. But i have my own experience with KB+M and IMO PC stuff still better for FPS gaming.

You may have your own experience. But you seem to forget that there are other players too. You just can't stay 100% on target with M+K unless you're the ultimate ESL programmer. But an aimassist for controllers can do that. They just stay hard on the target.

Just accept that there are players who don't want crossplay and there are players who don't want to play with controllers or with people who use them. Anyone who wants to do this should do it. But you should give the option to players who don't want it. As far as I'm concerned, everyone can play as they want as long as it's not unfair or things are used that greatly simplify it. It has to be fair.

[Askarod]

2 button's skilled player generation ... so sad ... what is the interrest to have an "legit" aim assist for controller's players as powerfull as an illegal aim bot on PC in a shooting game? totally unfair for MK players whose training hard.
Money money money from casual audience thinking they have skilled aiming like a pro gamer.
We always teached me that working and training make us better ... controller's player don't need ... they are 80% AI bot, 20% movement lol

[Psycha]

Originally posted by Aska:

2 button's skilled player generation ... so sad ... what is the interrest to have an "legit" aim assist for controller's players as powerfull as an illegal aim bot on PC in a shooting game? totally unfair for MK players whose training hard.
Money money money from casual audience thinking they have skilled aiming like a pro gamer.
We always teached me that working and training make us better ... controller's player don't need ... they are 80% AI bot, 20% movement lol

This is why they need to expand on the spec ops mode and add endless survival etc. Who needs MP when 80% of the players use aimbot given by the devs?

[Hamless Hog]

Originally posted by Aska:

2 button's skilled player generation ... so sad ... what is the interrest to have an "legit" aim assist for controller's players as powerfull as an illegal aim bot on PC in a shooting game? totally unfair for MK players whose training hard.
Money money money from casual audience thinking they have skilled aiming like a pro gamer.
We always teached me that working and training make us better ... controller's player don't need ... they are 80% AI bot, 20% movement lol

Lol its not nearly that powerful. Cant you just use kbm if you dont like using controller?

[David Fifield]

Originally posted by Entity:

Originally posted by ExE:

I don't think so.





Ok just facts. watch the video It's in German, but you'll understand what I mean by direct comparison. A player who has never played a shooter with a controller will play a few rounds with the controller after a short period of familiarization, and a controller player who has never played with M+KB will play a few rounds with M+KB. You'll see what I mean. In exactly the same way, he clearly shows in the video how much the AimAssist influences aiming. You can't do that in a shooter with your high time to kill rate.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mlCSgQLMVe0&ab_channel=SirHansVader

Ofc controller is much easier for new players, even my little 5yo brother can play with controller. But i have my own experience with KB+M and IMO PC stuff still better for FPS gaming.

It's not bro. Modern controllers are significantly more accurate as well as games now have ALC settings meaning you can get very fine control with controller without even factoring in the aim assist. It's not 2007 anymore yet we have even stronger aim assist. If you don't tune your mouse and build the muscle memory and understanding of mouse mechanics you will be ♥♥♥♥. It takes 1000's of hours to even become semi decent with mouse and you WILL NEVER track as well as aim assist. Not even close. It becomes humanly impossible to achieve tracking accuracy % greater than 50% in most games. Like with WZ I can literally turn faster than I do on my mouse without losing accuracy. On mouse I play on 800 eDPI and need to swipe my whole arm to 180. In CoD if I played on dynamic I can turn and flick like a maniac because the aim slowdown is going to prevent me from over or under flicking. The rotational aim assist means I don't need to at all or barely in some cases micro adjust for strafing enemies. Purposely get stick drift on left stick to have AA always activated.

[David Fifield]

Originally posted by Entity:

Originally posted by ExE:

I don't think so.





Ok just facts. watch the video It's in German, but you'll understand what I mean by direct comparison. A player who has never played a shooter with a controller will play a few rounds with the controller after a short period of familiarization, and a controller player who has never played with M+KB will play a few rounds with M+KB. You'll see what I mean. In exactly the same way, he clearly shows in the video how much the AimAssist influences aiming. You can't do that in a shooter with your high time to kill rate.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mlCSgQLMVe0&ab_channel=SirHansVader

Ofc controller is much easier for new players, even my little 5yo brother can play with controller. But i have my own experience with KB+M and IMO PC stuff still better for FPS gaming.

There was not a single pro using M+KB in recent WZ tournaments. It's easier for beginners and more pros use it than Kb? Hmm, I wonder why.

[Bloodyboo12]

Multiplayer is unplayable since the worst controller users are suddenly as good as the best M&K users. We are literally playing against a machine. Mediocre M&K players have no room to compete and are free kills since alot of us will never be fast enough to even play against something that aims chest - head in 2 frames flat and doesnt miss a shot. Report all controller players you see and go for as many bans as possible since they are aimbotting.

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[Hamless Hog]

Originally posted by Bloodyboo12:

Multiplayer is unplayable since the worst controller users are suddenly as good as the best M&K users. We are literally playing against a machine. Mediocre M&K players have no room to compete and are free kills since alot of us will never be fast enough to even play against something that aims chest - head in 2 frames flat and doesnt miss a shot. Report all controller players you see and go for as many bans as possible since they are aimbotting.

lmao thats so far from true

[Jo.]

Console player don't play, they just click on buttons to let the game play for them...

[Bloodyboo12]

Originally posted by Hogarth:

Originally posted by Bloodyboo12:

Multiplayer is unplayable since the worst controller users are suddenly as good as the best M&K users. We are literally playing against a machine. Mediocre M&K players have no room to compete and are free kills since alot of us will never be fast enough to even play against something that aims chest - head in 2 frames flat and doesnt miss a shot. Report all controller players you see and go for as many bans as possible since they are aimbotting.

lmao thats so far from true

Actually it is, sorry. I know you want to keep your aim assist as is. Tell me why many M&K content creaters have switched because they couldnt compete? Why is hardcore/T1 suddenly dominated by controller users when historically it was the M&K playground? There is an astounding amount of evidence available if you just search for it. Why does horizontal assist allow controller players to not even touch their aim stick and it will follow a target perfectly as long as they strafe? Its no longer an 'assist', it is an aimbot. Also, why cant the moderation team tell the difference between actual cheaters and people with well tweaked setting for the aimbot? Im at 3 false bans already and proud of it.

[ThatsWaffles]

ok

[Hamless Hog]

Originally posted by Bloodyboo12:

Originally posted by Hogarth:

lmao thats so far from true

Actually it is, sorry. I know you want to keep your aim assist as is. Tell me why many M&K content creaters have switched because they couldnt compete? Why is hardcore/T1 suddenly dominated by controller users when historically it was the M&K playground? There is an astounding amount of evidence available if you just search for it. Why does horizontal assist allow controller players to not even touch their aim stick and it will follow a target perfectly as long as they strafe? Its no longer an 'assist', it is an aimbot. Also, why cant the moderation team tell the difference between actual cheaters and people with well tweaked setting for the aimbot? Im at 3 false bans already and proud of it.

kbm doesnt have aim assist...