Are there any successful ban appeals?

[mcnuggies]

Seeing many threads and posts around bans, but am only seeing a pattern of folks complaining about getting banned, and leaving out important details i.e. previous ban history, hardware bans, or usage of other "game altering software". i'm really starting to believe that all the individuals complaining about being banned don't want to admit guilt.

i've only seen one post where one has tried to diagnose, listing potential culprits like ds4 (controller emulation). i've also seen another discussion with someone having wemod (centralized cheats/trainer application) running in the background, although it would only make sense to trigger anticheat if wemod were actively editing mw2 memory, not just running in the background.

i've also seen claims of being banned after verifying game cache, but that seems absolutely ridiculous that this would trigger anti cheat. i don't know much about anti cheat software, but getting banned for verifying game files seems like a HUGE oversight. doesn't check out to have faulty code like that.

so i really wonder if people are actually getting false positive bans... and if an appeal has been approved.

tl;dr tons of people complaining about bans, most likely cheater scrubs not wanting to admit guilt. are there any cases of people being innocent and appealing a ban?

[Xorce]

I believe that they start scanning anything that runs in the background since the warzone anticheat update a while back. In their beta official statements, they say that they ban people before they got into the first match. The only possible way to code something like that is ban history, hwid and checking background apps. I have told all my friends to get rid of anything remotely questionable in the background before opening the game. Appealing is almost impossible. Better to not have anything that can put you on their radar.

[Leah]

Nobody is posting these things publicly just due to not caring, as the people who are denying that there are false bans are triablists who refuse to believe the game they like can have any flaws, evidence won't change their opinion.

If you want proof that the anti-cheat has problems, look no further than how BOCW and MW2019 had false ban issues that needed pressure to be put on the respective developers to get reverted, the original MW2 had 2 false ban issues, one that got reverted, and one that didn't (though it was more just lying by IW, not a false positive, they said getting accidentally put into levelling servers wouldn't ban you, but it did) and while not as rock-solid, Vanguard had a near identical version to MW2019, but reverts didn't go out AFAIK, as there wasn't enough people pushing against it.

There was however someone who documented just about everything their system could have done, went to numerous different methods of support, and didn't get a revert in until they threatened legal action, and considering they were mentioning that a lot of people that reported a false ban had similar issues leading up to it that they did, those still banned folks were doing the same things as he did.

If you want advice to not be one of the poor sods who gets shafted by Activision and their talentless developers no discrimination policy with their rushed anti-cheats, don't run any software that hooks into the game, the best you're going to get away with is the Steam or Nvidia overlays just because they probably whitelisted it, but for things like Overwolf (if anyone still uses it) Discord overlay, anything that sends input data like DS4Windows, etc. make sure they're shut off.

[.geeK]

Leah, we get it, you think false bans are a problem.

Unfortunately most people who cheat have no issues going on a forum to lie about it, so you white knighting for them doesn't help, only provides them with a further excuse to whine.


Unfortunately, it's even harder to believe someone who has a previous infraction on their account, like yourself, so again, not sure why YOU think YOU should be the champion for false bans, when you've cheated in previous games yourself (No, I'm not looking for excuses or justifications why YOU TOTALLY DONT DESERVE BANS).

[DrGonzoRoyale]

As u do not own the game i am not sure why u are asking this.
FYI people already tried to dodge former bans on battlenet by buying the game on steam.
That does not work so if u want to buy the game while u are banned it will not work and appeals will not unban you

[dlpkl]

So I am currently in the process of getting my account unbanned. I was playing the campaign on the 20th when my game crashed and after that I was banned in game, although the activision ban appeal page showed that I didn't have a ban on my account for any game. I finally opened a ticket with support and they wouldn't say whether or not I was banned, just that they are investigating and that I would have to wait. That was the last I heard from them, probably around 12pm PST on the 25th after opening the ticket on the 20th/21st. 30mins ago, I checked the ban appeal page because I was getting impatient, and it now says that I have a permanent ban on my account. I went to them for help and they handed me a ban. I'm kinda just over it at this point, I consider that $100 I gave them gone. I really, truly don't understand how legitimate cheaters can get away with it while people like us - campaign players who have never cheated in any game let alone any previous COD - get banned.

I can still appeal it, but I don't even know if I want to play this game anymore. I'll probably just go and watch a playthrough of the final mission that I didn't get to play. Activision's taken my money and spat in my face for it.

[MaxxGold]

When people get banned they try to blame it on anything they can. Very rarely does a ban get lifted. It does happen, but 99 percent of the time the person cheated but tries to save face with his friends, so he complains about x,y,z, and hopes his friends don’t think he is a cheating loser.

[RABAH]

If you are banned then you cant revert it. About being false bans, basically the game started to ban anyone who used unlock tools, manipulated game data, used cheat previously, so they deserved it, and i dont give a ***** about how noob he is.

[MaxxGold]

Originally posted by .geeK:

Leah, we get it, you think false bans are a problem.

Unfortunately most people who cheat have no issues going on a forum to lie about it, so you white knighting for them doesn't help, only provides them with a further excuse to whine.


Unfortunately, it's even harder to believe someone who has a previous infraction on their account, like yourself, so again, not sure why YOU think YOU should be the champion for false bans, when you've cheated in previous games yourself (No, I'm not looking for excuses or justifications why YOU TOTALLY DONT DESERVE BANS).

This 1000 percent. Cheaters think they are smarter than they are, so they just keep lying about it. Lol, JackieTheDemon was white knighting in every cheater conversation too, and now he just got banned. Cheaters love to comment how false bans are the issue, when we all know that false bans rarely happen. I would say 1000 percent that Leah is a cheater. VAC bans aren’t false bans, they aren’t from some program running in the background. You are a cheater, plain and simple for everyone to see. 😂

[mcnuggies]

Originally posted by dlpkl:

So I am currently in the process of getting my account unbanned.

sorry about that. i wish you luck. odds are slim, but you never know.

do you have any inkling of what may have gone wrong? have you used any trainers or software to edit game files (currently or historically?) regardless of whether or not you have been caught?

[CloversDrop]

Rumour has it that Ricochet is falsely banning people for manipulating the game's files when Steam's own 'verify game files' software runs when the game crashes.

Should be pretty obviously to everyone now, that Steam's software is doing something to the game files to verify them and triggering the ban.

Shocking Steam, or Activision hasn't put out a statement about it yet.

[fraggyb]

Originally posted by Cloverdrop:

Shocking Steam, or Activision hasn't put out a statement about it yet.

Almost like it's not true!

[Leah]

Originally posted by .geeK:

Leah, we get it, you think false bans are a problem.

Unfortunately most people who cheat have no issues going on a forum to lie about it, so you white knighting for them doesn't help, only provides them with a further excuse to whine.


Unfortunately, it's even harder to believe someone who has a previous infraction on their account, like yourself, so again, not sure why YOU think YOU should be the champion for false bans, when you've cheated in previous games yourself (No, I'm not looking for excuses or justifications why YOU TOTALLY DONT DESERVE BANS).

1. Do you have any metric to prove that most if ANY of the people complaining about false bans are liars other than Activision covering for themselves saying that their anti-cheat (which has had false positives before) couldn't have had a false positive?

2. I didn't cheat to get the VAC ban on my account, and it wasn't an unjust ban either (though a very bad system), it was due to mobile phone sharing due to trade restrictions, someone else cheats on that number and anyone using it is banned from that game as well, as it turns out I didn't have my own phone number 7 years ago.

Since you're the type of person to check someone's profile (probably in attempt to attack someone's character rather than their argument I'd assume) I'll even post a screenshot. [i.imgur.com]

[BurrZerka]

There was one false ban that was over turned on the Better Business Bureau's Activision first page the other day. That was definitive proof of one over turned false ban that has happened since the beta. However, that was the only one I could find and it was several days ago so it may not be on the first page anymore.

[Leah]

Originally posted by fraggyb:

Originally posted by Cloverdrop:

Shocking Steam, or Activision hasn't put out a statement about it yet.

Almost like it's not true!

That's because they can't investigate it, all they know is that it was set off, and for PR purposes they have no reason to investigate (if they even can, i doubt their anti-cheat is set up to document much) unless it's costing them, like how zombies streamers were getting banned, so easter egg day 1 runners were struggling to stream due to being too afraid to run it on their PC, until they eventually looked over again and just reverted them.

Don't think this chain of events hasn't happened before, Activision is out for your money, not your customer satisfaction.

[AirborneMuffins]

Originally posted by Xorce:

I believe that they start scanning anything that runs in the background since the warzone anticheat update a while back. In their beta official statements, they say that they ban people before they got into the first match. The only possible way to code something like that is ban history, hwid and checking background apps. I have told all my friends to get rid of anything remotely questionable in the background before opening the game. Appealing is almost impossible. Better to not have anything that can put you on their radar.

It's illegal to check bg apps. They cannot do that.