REGARDING CARRYOVER BANS

[aalbass]

My friend was falsely banned by the game developer. he never used cheats for the MW2 - Beta. In fact, the developer issued an instant ban because he had a previous HWID ban on a previous title (Wazone) on a different platform (Battle.Net), in other words, it was an automatic and instant ban by their anti-cheat (Ricochet ) because the HWID is registered as permanently banned.

Why would that "kind" of a ban show on his Steam profile as a detected cheater for the current game MW2-Beta? it should be distinct, right? it must show that its a (carry-over) ban from a previous tittle not due to a violation on the current tittle. because actually he was not cheating for the current tittle.

Therefor, it is safe to say its a misinforming Steam Profile ban, and its misinforming to the entirety of the Steam Community. this kind of "carry over ban to the steam platform" should not be displayed on the community profile as an actual cheater. it must be regulated by Steam policies since its an instant carry over by the developer's own (unregulated by steam) automatic implementation of the anti-cheat banning mechanism.

NOT an actual detection backed with evidence for confirmed hacking on the current tittle. as a result, it is not wrong to say that carry over bans should be regulated in Steam banning policies! At the end of the day Valve reserves the right to revoke access to the banning system if the developer abuses it.

[cSg|mc-Hotsauce]

Valve is not going to revoke Activision's right to issue Game bans.

[Milkless Tea]

cheater

[JackieTheDemon]

They are abusing it heavily. Banning players for a BETA with no recourse.

[saiga1Z]

all cheaters should be marked for everyone to see and shame. regardless of platform. also banned for life from online play.
tell your 'friend' that

[SeAsTaR]

Originally posted by aalbasse:

My friend was falsely banned by the game developer. he never used cheats for the MW2 - Beta. In fact, the developer issued an instant ban because he had a previous HWID ban on a previous title (Wazone) on a different platform (Battle.Net), in other words, it was an automatic and instant ban by their anti-cheat (Ricochet ) because the HWID is registered as permanently banned.

Why would that "kind" of a ban show on his Steam profile as a detected cheater for the current game MW2-Beta? it should be distinct, right? it must show that its a (carry-over) ban from a previous tittle not due to a violation on the current tittle. because actually he was not cheating for the current tittle.

Therefor, it is safe to say its a misinforming Steam Profile ban, and its misinforming to the entirety of the Steam Community. this kind of "carry over ban to the steam platform" should not be displayed on the community profile as an actual cheater. it must be regulated by Steam policies since its an instant carry over by the developer's own (unregulated by steam) automatic implementation of the anti-cheat banning mechanism.

NOT an actual detection backed with evidence for confirmed hacking on the current tittle. as a result, it is not wrong to say that carry over bans should be regulated in Steam banning policies! At the end of the day Valve reserves the right to revoke access to the banning system if the developer abuses it.

I believe you agreed to the terms where it says bans will get carried over from other call of duty games :p.

[Pottsy]

No...You cheated, get over it. NO ONE wants to play with you anyway, you cause nothing but problems for other people and the company themselves.

You think they enjoy hearing nothing but negativity about how they do nothing to combat cheating in games? As if ANY game has ANY chance of doing that anyway lol.

You are literally causing the uphill battle for everyone and every company that ever produces games. Just piss off. I hope that ban follows you for the rest of your life, just like it should.

Funny thing though, now that you've brought it to STEAM of all places, you are so fked haha! Steam karma follows you FOREVER, and individual game admins have learnt how to use these systems to keep you out of their games from cheating in others...Enjoy that, scum bag. Now you will never play another game in Steam without having a blackmark that can be seen.

[CrowDeath - CDkeyIT]

your friend cheated? take the ban and shut up

[Blu]

I was falsely banned

[1961]

Originally posted by ravu88:

all cheaters should be marked for everyone to see and shame. regardless of platform. also banned for life from online play.
tell your 'friend' that

This ^

[CloversDrop]

What if you purchased a 2nd hand computer that had previously been HWID banned, installed MW2 beta and got hit with a ban for previously cheating.

I can see this blowing up into a nightmare for Steam and Activision, but especially Steam as it would seem they're defaming people as cheaters, without proof.

[ASVPBX]

Originally posted by Cloverdrop:

What if you purchased a 2nd hand computer that had previously been HWID banned, installed MW2 beta and got hit with a ban for previously cheating.

I can see this blowing up into a nightmare for Steam and Activision, but especially Steam as it would seem they're defaming people as cheaters, without proof.

Buying previously banned used hardware has been a thing way before ricochet as there are more anti cheats that hardware ban but I’m not sure if a company would reverse your ban in that situation.

[Blu]

Originally posted by Cloverdrop:

What if you purchased a 2nd hand computer that had previously been HWID banned, installed MW2 beta and got hit with a ban for previously cheating.

I can see this blowing up into a nightmare for Steam and Activision, but especially Steam as it would seem they're defaming people as cheaters, without proof.

Plus you cant even refund the game, absolute nightmare they could easly get sued for this, they should correct this or it all depends on who sues first

[MrEWhite]

Originally posted by aalbasse:

My friend was falsely banned by the game developer. he never used cheats for the MW2 - Beta.

Uh huh...

Originally posted by aalbasse:

In fact, the developer issued an instant ban because he had a previous HWID ban on a previous title (Wazone) on a different platform (Battle.Net), in other words, it was an automatic and instant ban by their anti-cheat (Ricochet ) because the HWID is registered as permanently banned.

Hah, there it is.

[CloversDrop]

Originally posted by BXFLOW:

Originally posted by Cloverdrop:

What if you purchased a 2nd hand computer that had previously been HWID banned, installed MW2 beta and got hit with a ban for previously cheating.

I can see this blowing up into a nightmare for Steam and Activision, but especially Steam as it would seem they're defaming people as cheaters, without proof.

Buying previously banned used hardware has been a thing way before ricochet as there are more anti cheats that hardware ban but I’m not sure if a company would reverse your ban in that situation.

Maybe with proof of purchase or something, but if they're not even going to tell you why you got the ban in the first place, you're a bit in the dark.

Originally posted by Gigachad:

Originally posted by Cloverdrop:

What if you purchased a 2nd hand computer that had previously been HWID banned, installed MW2 beta and got hit with a ban for previously cheating.

I can see this blowing up into a nightmare for Steam and Activision, but especially Steam as it would seem they're defaming people as cheaters, without proof.

Plus you cant even refund the game, absolute nightmare they could easly get sued for this, they should correct this or it all depends on who sues first

Exactly. I can see the same.

Those of us that have had Steam accounts for years will remember people saying 'Steam don't offer refunds, it's in their T&C'
It wasn't until legal action was taken and Steam were forced to offer refunds, that people realised Steam's T&Cs don't actually remove people's legal consumer rights.

I sell you the right to use a service of mine, then I stop you using that service because of something you may have done years ago, without any actual proof you did it, then I refuse to give you a refund...
If I did that to you, you'd rightly call it a scam.

I wonder if Steam is actually looking at the situation and giving it some consideration.

[Blu]

Originally posted by Cloverdrop:

Originally posted by BXFLOW:

Buying previously banned used hardware has been a thing way before ricochet as there are more anti cheats that hardware ban but I’m not sure if a company would reverse your ban in that situation.

Maybe with proof of purchase or something, but if they're not even going to tell you why you got the ban in the first place, you're a bit in the dark.

Originally posted by Gigachad:

Plus you cant even refund the game, absolute nightmare they could easly get sued for this, they should correct this or it all depends on who sues first

Exactly. I can see the same.

Those of us that have had Steam accounts for years will remember people saying 'Steam don't offer refunds, it's in their T&C'
It wasn't until legal action was taken and Steam were forced to offer refunds, that people realised Steam's T&Cs don't actually remove people's legal consumer rights.

I sell you the right to use a service of mine, then I stop you using that service because of something you may have done years ago, without any actual proof you did it, then I refuse to give you a refund...
If I did that to you, you'd rightly call it a scam.

I wonder if Steam is actually looking at the situation and giving it some consideration.

they are playing to aggressive on banning cheaters they messed up this one, time will tell cant wait to see what happens