Do you keep Sea peoples or disable them?

[Paddy]

I have found the sea people's to be quite hard so i find i'm sometimes flicking between keeping their armies at low numbers or disabling them completely during the campaign when they get overwhelming. How do you other guys deal with the sea peoples without elite armies to counter them?

[Paddy]

Originally posted by oOIYvYIOo:

Originally posted by Paddy:

Lol while I now play with them on that is a ridiculous assertion. Some people Like to have a choice. The sea people's are just another chaos invasion in WH or HUN invasion In Atilla. We have been there, done that.... as veterans 😉

Your only a veteran by achieving sucess in the hardest fight, that corresponds to the closest level of reality, and not by doing without effort, sweat and blood.

Learn how to be humble amd accept your limitations and dont pretend that others that have the rare capacity to win TW on Legendary level, are this and that.

Your definition of the word veteran is simply incorrect. Veteran implies experience, it has nothing to do with capability. As a Total War veteran I am as such simply because I have been playing these games for many years. There are newcomers who may be MUCH better at this game than i am however i am married with Kids. I don't have the time nor care to play these games competitively. I enjoy a much more casual and slower playstyle

[Sir Ballgor]

I think my next play through, I will flick the sea peoples off. I found the sea peoples to be relatively annoying. I thought they would spawn periodically for some time and would stop thereafter, that is not the case. I was really hoping for a random big wave of armies with some stragglers then done, not a slightly sparser spawn of some even AFTER the sea peoples' event in the game is said to be concluded.

[chopper [FD]]

Sea peoples ON: play the scenario the dev team prepared for you
Sea peoples OFF: screw it, make your own history sandbox

I like that they provide the tools for a granular customization. After a few standard Hard/Normal campaigns I think I may play some custom scenarios.

[oOIYvYIOo]

Originally posted by Paddy:

Originally posted by oOIYvYIOo:

Your only a veteran by achieving sucess in the hardest fight, that corresponds to the closest level of reality, and not by doing without effort, sweat and blood.

Learn how to be humble amd accept your limitations and dont pretend that others that have the rare capacity to win TW on Legendary level, are this and that.

Your definition of the word veteran is simply incorrect. Veteran implies experience, it has nothing to do with capability. As a Total War veteran I am as such simply because I have been playing these games for many years. There are newcomers who may be MUCH better at this game than i am however i am married with Kids. I don't have the time nor care to play these games competitively. I enjoy a much more casual and slower playstyle

You should learn English then. I wrote that veteranism does not have anything with longevity but with effort, sweat and blood, and that child, is experience.

If your in the army for 30 years and cant win a battle against your fearest enemy, loosing the majority of the battles , no one will ever consider you a veteran, but a looser, a noob, a good one to clean the lattrins, wash the dishes, resuming, your capacity makes you what you are, canon fodder, a no one. A veteran, corresponds to is capacity that is above the average soldier, whether the vet has 1 year or 6 months. Because he wins battles, and the more he wins the more is requested to lead battles.

That is, your experience of playing TW for years, without Legendary camapign victories or MP battles victories, makes you a noob or random player of TW.
Now, someone that has played for thousands of hours, that achieves sucess on any TW campaigns in Legendary levels with the majority of the factions, and still win TW MP World Tournaments, now that is TW veteran, as I am.

You, are not a veteran, you are just a eternal random TW player.

P.S.- get some humility and you will begin to see the reality more clearly.

[Kendji]

Depends what kind of Campaign I want to play. If on, I turn them up to max. If I'm an inland I always have them, if coastal power, maybe. Do I constantly to deal with them for all the inlanders and I'd rather be doing something else or do I feel like I want a challenge?

[Rincewind]

Originally posted by oOIYvYIOo:

Originally posted by Paddy:

Your definition of the word veteran is simply incorrect. Veteran implies experience, it has nothing to do with capability. As a Total War veteran I am as such simply because I have been playing these games for many years. There are newcomers who may be MUCH better at this game than i am however i am married with Kids. I don't have the time nor care to play these games competitively. I enjoy a much more casual and slower playstyle

You should learn English then. I wrote that veteranism does not have anything with longevity but with effort, sweat and blood, and that child, is experience.

If your in the army for 30 years and cant win a battle against your fearest enemy, loosing the majority of the battles , no one will ever consider you a veteran, but a looser, a noob, a good one to clean the lattrins, wash the dishes, resuming, your capacity makes you what you are, canon fodder, a no one. A veteran, corresponds to is capacity that is above the average soldier, whether the vet has 1 year or 6 months. Because he wins battles, and the more he wins the more is requested to lead battles.

That is, your experience of playing TW for years, without Legendary camapign victories or MP battles victories, makes you a noob or random player of TW.
Now, someone that has played for thousands of hours, that achieves sucess on any TW campaigns in Legendary levels with the majority of the factions, and still win TW MP World Tournaments, now that is TW veteran, as I am.

You, are not a veteran, you are just a eternal random TW player.

P.S.- get some humility and you will begin to see the reality more clearly.

another overwhelmed ego statement...

[Sir Ballgor]

Originally posted by oOIYvYIOo:

Originally posted by Paddy:

Your definition of the word veteran is simply incorrect. Veteran implies experience, it has nothing to do with capability. As a Total War veteran I am as such simply because I have been playing these games for many years. There are newcomers who may be MUCH better at this game than i am however i am married with Kids. I don't have the time nor care to play these games competitively. I enjoy a much more casual and slower playstyle

You should learn English then. I wrote that veteranism does not have anything with longevity but with effort, sweat and blood, and that child, is experience.

If your in the army for 30 years and cant win a battle against your fearest enemy, loosing the majority of the battles , no one will ever consider you a veteran, but a looser, a noob, a good one to clean the lattrins, wash the dishes, resuming, your capacity makes you what you are, canon fodder, a no one. A veteran, corresponds to is capacity that is above the average soldier, whether the vet has 1 year or 6 months. Because he wins battles, and the more he wins the more is requested to lead battles.

That is, your experience of playing TW for years, without Legendary camapign victories or MP battles victories, makes you a noob or random player of TW.
Now, someone that has played for thousands of hours, that achieves sucess on any TW campaigns in Legendary levels with the majority of the factions, and still win TW MP World Tournaments, now that is TW veteran, as I am.

You, are not a veteran, you are just a eternal random TW player.

P.S.- get some humility and you will begin to see the reality more clearly.

The statement above is correct about your ego being overwhelming and it is misplaced.

First, get a dictionary and learn how to spell if you are going to hold yourself in such high regard. Second, your definition is self-imposed and contorts the word "veteran". "Veteran" implies experience, not success, you are conflating the two. One can still be a "veteran" of something and be unfortunately unsuccessful. "Success" means to achieve a predetermined goal. Therefore, success and veteran are two separate and distinct meanings, hence, two separate words.

It sounds like your advice of getting "some humility and you will begin to see the reality more clearly" is sage and should be applied to yourself. Literacy is hard :).

[Yews]

Turning off Sea Peoples in this game is the same thing as turning off the Huns in Attila. They’re like the entire point of the game basically. Imagine a Diablo game without Diablo in it. Wait a minute... Alright don’t imagine a Diablo game without Diablo in it, just... You get the idea.

[Aluminum Elite Master]

Sea Peoples are manageable, at least up to Hard campaign settings, I've found. I've played Hard campaign, Normal battle settings, and found that to be where Sea Peoples feel the most fair and the most like previous games' invasions (like Skaven mobs coming to ritual sites in TW:WH2, for example).

The challenge with Sea Peoples in this game is that they are very random. First campaign, I had 6-7 full 20 stacks of their elite units show up at the very beginning of the Great Wave, and it was over.

Next campaign, same settings, same faction (wanted to redeem myself), they must have spread out far more and I only ever had 3 stacks at a time to deal with.

So, probably did nothing differently at all, and one time got clobbered by them, and the next time was challenged but got through them.

The main problem with Sea Peoples is they just slow the game way down. Don't go more than a province or two or three away from your start point, take only settlements of non-major factions via war (to avoid being in a major war when the waves start coming), and trade resources you do have for those you don't. Do all this, hold out until turn 120 or whatever, and then the game opens up again. They basically just slow the whole campaign up, and that's a bit of an issue for me already.

[Defmonkey]

Originally posted by DR GOO:

Don't they have horns on their helmets? so much for historical accuracy in a new full "historical title" CA

Depends on which ones you are talking about.... historically there are 9-10 recorded ones and then there are a bunch of other barbarians / invaders, all look different. Pharaoh has several different raiders depending on the region are in. Ones with horns on head... typically are Sherden, those units are in.

[Hori]

Egyptian art at Djamet, Memnonia, Medinet Habu, displays Ramesses battling seafaring invaders wearing horned helmets. In the game, the Sea Peoples wear horned helmets. I have no idea where the issue is.

[Kendji]

Ignore the troll, feeding them will just make them come back for more.

But yes, the art and modelling is actually historically accurate, including that wierdo helmet of Amenmesse. They dressed wierd back then.

First battle with the sea peoples I fought I lost, went up against them with Nubian & Kushite tier 1 infantry lol. Learned lessons there

[i-dot]

NEED NAVAL BATTLES!

[oOIYvYIOo]

Originally posted by Sir Ballgor:

Originally posted by oOIYvYIOo:

You should learn English then. I wrote that veteranism does not have anything with longevity but with effort, sweat and blood, and that child, is experience.

If your in the army for 30 years and cant win a battle against your fearest enemy, loosing the majority of the battles , no one will ever consider you a veteran, but a looser, a noob, a good one to clean the lattrins, wash the dishes, resuming, your capacity makes you what you are, canon fodder, a no one. A veteran, corresponds to is capacity that is above the average soldier, whether the vet has 1 year or 6 months. Because he wins battles, and the more he wins the more is requested to lead battles.

That is, your experience of playing TW for years, without Legendary camapign victories or MP battles victories, makes you a noob or random player of TW.
Now, someone that has played for thousands of hours, that achieves sucess on any TW campaigns in Legendary levels with the majority of the factions, and still win TW MP World Tournaments, now that is TW veteran, as I am.

You, are not a veteran, you are just a eternal random TW player.

P.S.- get some humility and you will begin to see the reality more clearly.

The statement above is correct about your ego being overwhelming and it is misplaced.

First, get a dictionary and learn how to spell if you are going to hold yourself in such high regard. Second, your definition is self-imposed and contorts the word "veteran". "Veteran" implies experience, not success, you are conflating the two. One can still be a "veteran" of something and be unfortunately unsuccessful. "Success" means to achieve a predetermined goal. Therefore, success and veteran are two separate and distinct meanings, hence, two separate words.

It sounds like your advice of getting "some humility and you will begin to see the reality more clearly" is sage and should be applied to yourself. Literacy is hard :).

Maybe in your country military experience means failure, not on mine.
Just read what you wrote several times and apply that in real life.

It is hilarious you noobs grabing of being veterans because you play TW for years, while you havent a thousand hours in totality of gameplay, you can only win campaigns by playing in amateur levels, that makes you literaly a noob due you play TW for years and cant develop, without wining a world Tournament, and still you consider a veteran.
You are not veteran. Veteran wins and survives. Veterans do not loose and survive.

Stop creating fantasy stories to protect your ego.

[Rincewind]

Originally posted by oOIYvYIOo:

Originally posted by Sir Ballgor:

The statement above is correct about your ego being overwhelming and it is misplaced.

First, get a dictionary and learn how to spell if you are going to hold yourself in such high regard. Second, your definition is self-imposed and contorts the word "veteran". "Veteran" implies experience, not success, you are conflating the two. One can still be a "veteran" of something and be unfortunately unsuccessful. "Success" means to achieve a predetermined goal. Therefore, success and veteran are two separate and distinct meanings, hence, two separate words.

It sounds like your advice of getting "some humility and you will begin to see the reality more clearly" is sage and should be applied to yourself. Literacy is hard :).

Maybe in your country military experience means failure, not on mine.
Just read what you wrote several times and apply that in real life.

It is hilarious you noobs grabing of being veterans because you play TW for years, while you havent a thousand hours in totality of gameplay, you can only win campaigns by playing in amateur levels, that makes you literaly a noob due you play TW for years and cant develop, without wining a world Tournament, and still you consider a veteran.
You are not veteran. Veteran wins and survives. Veterans do not loose and survive.

Stop creating fantasy stories to protect your ego.

It´s not just you have a too big ego, narcism is another attitude on you.... holy crap i didn´t read any such garbage a awhile.

You feel sooooo big because you tell others that maybe you play on hard difficult and in the same time you tell to all other they don´t .... and if they don´t they are noobs and somewhat else.... but you looks even smaller because of that. i would give you a clown but really... you are not any worth for that :-)