Finally. Representation in a 'Egypt pc strategy game'.

[Apexnexius]

- Respecting History -

Good job Creative Assembly and SEGA on the historically accurate inclusion.


Some info to those of you who didn't pay attention in class:

Hamitic Egyptians speaking a Afro-Asiatic language populated the Nile river valley before the Hellenic elites took over after Alexander's conquest and before the Arabs invaded Egypt in the 7th century CE (the Arabs were Semites).

Nilo-Saharan individuals traveled down the Nile river from the south to the north.
This mix is not problematic.
On the behalf of the whole Total War community - A big thank you from all of us to those of you who were involved in the research phase during Total War: Pharaoh's development.

[Shepherd]

Now if only they made a good game. This isn't a documentary.

[Apexnexius]

Postat inițial de Shepherd:

Now if only they made a good game. This isn't a documentary.

There are two types of Historic-Strategy gamers.

- The Asperger min-max number crunchers
- And the hardcore history interested strategy game enjoyers

Both belong in the community.

[Captain Baldy]

Postat inițial de Apexnexius:

Postat inițial de Shepherd:

Now if only they made a good game. This isn't a documentary.

There are two types of Historic-Strategy gamers.

- The Asperger min-max number crunchers
- And the hardcore history interested strategy game enjoyers

Yes

[Hexagoros]

We have the bodies. We know what the people looked like.

The research and reconstructions (on the well preserved bodies from this era) are freely available online.

We know that this is "not" what Egypt looked like - because we have the bodies of the people in question. And for what it's worth, it's certainly not what Egypt looks like today.

TL:DR - Ancient Egyptians were "not" black. We know because we have the bodies.

[Toblm]

Postat inițial de Hexagoros:

We have the bodies. We know what the people looked like.

The research and reconstructions (on the well preserved bodies from this era) are freely available online.

We know that this is "not" what Egypt looked like - because we have the bodies of the people in question. And for what it's worth, it's certainly not what Egypt looks like today.

Oddly enough 3000 years and multiple significant periods of population disruption makes a hell of a difference.

[DEMONVIA]

WEZ WAZ

[Bordric]

Postat inițial de Apexnexius:

- Respecting History -

:p_heart::p_heart:
Good job Creative Assembly and SEGA on the historically accurate inclusion.


Some info to those of you who didn't pay attention in class:

Hamitic Egyptians speaking a Afro-Asiatic language populated the Nile river valley before the Hellenic elites took over after Alexander's conquest and before the Arabs invaded Egypt in the 7th century CE (the Arabs were Semites).

Nilo-Saharan individuals traveled down the Nile river from the south to the north.
This mix is not problematic.
On the behalf of the whole Total War community - A big thank you from all of us to those of you who were involved in the research phase during Total War: Pharaoh's development.

:cony_ankh: :Northmen::cony_ankh: :Northmen::cony_ankh: :Northmen::cony_ankh::cony_ankh: :Northmen::cony_ankh: :Northmen::cony_ankh: :Northmen::cony_ankh:

Then why didn't you buy it instead of making completely useless post?

[cowbell]

Hey hey, people.

[Ginaz]

Postat inițial de Toblm:

Postat inițial de Hexagoros:

We have the bodies. We know what the people looked like.

The research and reconstructions (on the well preserved bodies from this era) are freely available online.

We know that this is "not" what Egypt looked like - because we have the bodies of the people in question. And for what it's worth, it's certainly not what Egypt looks like today.

Oddly enough 3000 years and multiple significant periods of population disruption makes a hell of a difference.

We also know through DNA testing that ancient and modern Egyptians look very similar. The view that somehow they were much darker in the past and looked more like sub-Saharan Africans isn't something that's supported by facts, no matter what Jada Pinkett tells you. On a related note, Cleopatra looked more like a Greek than the people she ruled because she was a decedent of one of Alexander the Great's generals who took control of the region after Alexander's death...also because her lineage liked to have brothers and sisters marry each other.

[Hexagoros]

Postat inițial de Toblm:

Postat inițial de Hexagoros:

We have the bodies. We know what the people looked like.

The research and reconstructions (on the well preserved bodies from this era) are freely available online.

We know that this is "not" what Egypt looked like - because we have the bodies of the people in question. And for what it's worth, it's certainly not what Egypt looks like today.

Oddly enough 3000 years and multiple significant periods of population disruption makes a hell of a difference.

*facepalm*

As I said several times in what you quoted - we have the bodies from the era in question.

This is not something that can be debated or theorized. The people in question preserved themselves. We know what they looked like. They were not black.

[Toblm]

Postat inițial de Hexagoros:

Postat inițial de Toblm:

Oddly enough 3000 years and multiple significant periods of population disruption makes a hell of a difference.

*facepalm*

As I said several times in what you quoted - we have the bodies from the era in question.

This is not something that can be debated or theorized. The people in question preserved themselves. We know what they looked like. They were not black.

Great. Neither are most of the characters or units in Pharaoh.
Kushites, Nubians.... were darker skinned than lower Egyptians. Not only is this demonstrated in bodies but also in Egyptian art.

[Hexagoros]

Postat inițial de Toblm:

Postat inițial de Hexagoros:

*facepalm*

As I said several times in what you quoted - we have the bodies from the era in question.

This is not something that can be debated or theorized. The people in question preserved themselves. We know what they looked like. They were not black.

Great. Neither are most of the characters or units in Pharaoh.
Kushites, Nubians.... were darker skinned than lower Egyptians. Not only is this demonstrated in bodies but also in Egyptian art.

Have looked at the diplomacy screen?

Pretty much "every" Egyptian minor-faction leader looks Sub-Saharan with the exception of the starting Pharaoh Merneptah (sp?).

CA made the four main characters all recognizably Egyptian (by modern and ancient standards), but every other faction leader is essentially pulled from Netflix.

[Bordric]

Postat inițial de cowbell:

Hey hey, people.

We need more cowbell up in this place!

[Toblm]

Postat inițial de Hexagoros:

Postat inițial de Toblm:

Great. Neither are most of the characters or units in Pharaoh.
Kushites, Nubians.... were darker skinned than lower Egyptians. Not only is this demonstrated in bodies but also in Egyptian art.

Have looked at the diplomacy screen?

Pretty much "every" Egyptian minor-faction leader looks Sub-Saharan with the exception of the starting Pharaoh Merneptah (sp?).

CA made the four main characters all recognizably Egyptian (by modern and ancient standards), but every other faction leader is essentially pulled from Netflix.

Diplomacy? Not in MY Total War.

[Abacus]

It is very cool that they use this ambiguous cross of cultures that would have existed at the time. Excellent approach by the art team.