Egyptian mythology

[Keldan]

Egyptian mythology lends itself here, it's a must-have for this game

[Kendji]

It won't be dragons but they have drawn inspiration from myth to fill the historical blanks ot seems :)

https://youtu.be/bCzntQPSAXo?si=p5tDHhDJmGaCIJx0

[Vilela53]

Messaggio originale di easytarget:

Messaggio originale di Vilela53:

I agree, maybe mythology can save Pharaoh!

Nothing is going to save Pharaoh, least of all mythology.

Maybe!

But it's really disappointing when the most interesting and promising news in 2024 are just new mods or their updates, as is the case with MK 1212, LOTR for Attila and Victorian era for Shogun 2

[Denny]

Messaggio originale di Vilela53:

Messaggio originale di easytarget:

Nothing is going to save Pharaoh, least of all mythology.

Maybe!

But it's really disappointing when the most interesting and promising news in 2024 are just new mods or their updates, as is the case with MK 1212, LOTR for Attila and Victorian era for Shogun 2

Can you provide me links for those

[easytarget]

Messaggio originale di Khalifa:

Messaggio originale di easytarget:

Nothing is going to save Pharaoh, least of all mythology.

Wtf are you still doing here :WH3_greasus_rofl:
You dont play the game, and yet you've been in here blowing your diaper since last year!
Just go play some citybuilder until M3 comes out or something, damn!

And neither is your whiteknighting. But it is fun to watch you here flailing your arms trying to pitch water out of a sinking ship.

[Andra]

Messaggio originale di easytarget:

Messaggio originale di Khalifa:

Wtf are you still doing here
You dont play the game, and yet you've been in here blowing your diaper since last year!
Just go play some citybuilder until M3 comes out or something, damn!

And neither is your whiteknighting. But it is fun to watch you here flailing your arms trying to pitch water out of a sinking ship.

Neither what? What's this a reply to?

[i-dot]

Messaggio originale di Keldan:

Egyptian mythology lends itself here, it's a must-have for this game

♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ NO troll!
Mythology must have the best for the Medeival and the Empire

[Keldan]

People who write such negative comments don't know what Total War is all about. The Pharaoh Total War is a well-done game and the developers have been accommodating with the price and will soon release a new free expansion, what more could you want, there is professional work on this series of the game

[jonoliveira12]

What the game actually needs, is more empires to play.
Assyria, Babylon, Elam.

Mythology is a gimmick, and it did not save Troy.

[RitualistEssence]

Game didn't sell well as a historical title, mythology DLC would be a better bet to boost sales. Bronze age is a hard sell without mythology units because it lacks the unit variety you get in Iron Age games like Rome 2, Attila, Three kingdoms etc.

Its almost like they weren't trying to make money with the game.
Microsoft's Bronze Age RTS Age of Mythology sold well because it had unity variety and was fun and now they are working on a remake of it.

[jonoliveira12]

Messaggio originale di RitualistEssence:

Game didn't sell well as a historical title, mythology DLC would be a better bet to boost sales. Bronze age is a hard sell without mythology units because it lacks the unit variety you get in Iron Age games like Rome 2, Attila, Three kingdoms etc.

Its almost like they weren't trying to make money with the game.
Microsoft's Bronze Age RTS Age of Mythology sold well because it had unity variety and was fun and now they are working on a remake of it.

3K had even less unit variety.

[Ajax]

Messaggio originale di jonoliveira12:

Messaggio originale di RitualistEssence:

Game didn't sell well as a historical title, mythology DLC would be a better bet to boost sales. Bronze age is a hard sell without mythology units because it lacks the unit variety you get in Iron Age games like Rome 2, Attila, Three kingdoms etc.

Its almost like they weren't trying to make money with the game.
Microsoft's Bronze Age RTS Age of Mythology sold well because it had unity variety and was fun and now they are working on a remake of it.

3K had even less unit variety.

This is true. One of the most frequent criticisms I've seen of Pharaoh says that the game lacks unit variety, but in actuality it has more unit variety, at least visually, than either Three Kingdoms or Shogun 2. Those games depict a singular culture (not counting the southern Chinese in the Furious Wild DLC), while Pharaoh has the Egyptians, Canaanites, Hittites as playable cultures, as well as other non-playable cultures such as the Pelasgians, Libu, Habiru and Sea Peoples.

It's just that samurai and ninja are iconic and easily recognisable from pop culture, and they have a coolness factor. Bronze Age Egyptian Warriors on the other hand don't feature much in pop culture outside of brief moments from 'Mummy' style horror or action films.

Plus, the era has a lack of cool looking armour people tend to associate with the Romans or Medieval Knights. I don't think many people are familiar with Bronze age armours like the Dendra panoply, boar-tusk helmets etc. Most soldiers of the bronze age will just look like bare-torsoed men in kilts, loincloths and headdresses holding wicker or cow-skinned shields. They just look goofy in comparison, and rather interchangeable if you don't have an interest in the period which might be the reason why people think this game lacks unit variety, when it actually doesn't.

[easytarget]

Same as it ever was, TW steam forums never ever stop muttering the words "unit variety".

[RitualistEssence]

Messaggio originale di Ajax:

Messaggio originale di jonoliveira12:

3K had even less unit variety.

This is true. One of the most frequent criticisms I've seen of Pharaoh says that the game lacks unit variety, but in actuality it has more unit variety, at least visually, than either Three Kingdoms or Shogun 2. Those games depict a singular culture (not counting the southern Chinese in the Furious Wild DLC), while Pharaoh has the Egyptians, Canaanites, Hittites as playable cultures, as well as other non-playable cultures such as the Pelasgians, Libu, Habiru and Sea Peoples.

It's just that samurai and ninja are iconic and easily recognisable from pop culture, and they have a coolness factor. Bronze Age Egyptian Warriors on the other hand don't feature much in pop culture outside of brief moments from 'Mummy' style horror or action films.

Plus, the era has a lack of cool looking armour people tend to associate with the Romans or Medieval Knights. I don't think many people are familiar with Bronze age armours like the Dendra panoply, boar-tusk helmets etc. Most soldiers of the bronze age will just look like bare-torsoed men in kilts, loincloths and headdresses holding wicker or cow-skinned shields. They just look goofy in comparison, and rather interchangeable if you don't have an interest in the period which might be the reason why people think this game lacks unit variety, when it actually doesn't.

Three Kingdoms:
Catapults
Siege Bows
Flame thrower siege weapon
Repeating crossbow units
Elephant units
Tiger units
Blow dart units
Slinger units
Crossbow units
Bow units
Horse Archers
Spear shock cavalry
Long pike units
Short Spear Units.
Sword cavalry
Glaive units
Axe units
Mace units
Sword units
Staff units
2handed sword units
2handed mace units
2handed spear units
Dual axe units
Dual sword units
Dual mace units.
Dual spear units
Halberd units.
Javelin units
Mounted Crossbow units
Cataphract Cavalry units
2handed axe units.

Total War Pharaoh has Chariots but lacks Elephants, Tigers, Catapults, Siegebows, Crossbows, Blowdarts, Flamethrowers, only Cavalry is Chariots.

[Ajax]

I think we are comparing apples and oranges. When I was talking about unit variety I meant primarily visual variety, which Pharaoh does have more of, considering it features several cultures instead of the single one of Shogun 2 and to a lesser extent 3K (barring the Furious Wild DLC).

You're right that it lacks 'unit type' variety, especially in siege engines, when compared to 3k and Shogun 2, but this is because it's set during an era before projectile siege weaponry was invented, and cavalry was almost totally unheard of.

Still, I think my post is starting to send this discussion off-topic, considering this thread was originally meant to discuss implementing Mythology into the game. Sorry!

[♜ SɭYTɧeRiɳ ♜]

I would like them to put a mythological game mode like in Troy but I don't think they have much desire to work
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