Total War Pharaoh - Dynasties

[Darth Alpharius]

Think Medieval 2 Definitive Edition

Are the Total War: PHARAOH and DYNASTIES games connected?

No - If you own Total War: PHARAOH then you get a copy of Total War: PHARAOH - DYNASTIES as a free, separate edition of the game

Save files will not carry over between PHARAOH and DYNASTIES and there is no cross progression:
Steam achievements for DYNASTIES will be reset; your Steam achievements for the original Total War: PHARAOH game will not be affected

Users will require a new Assembly Kit for DYNASTIES to use mods

[TheOrangeBox]

why Fall of the Samurai for Shogun 2?

[Darth Alpharius]

Originally posted by TheOrangeBox:

why Fall of the Samurai for Shogun 2?

Fall of the Samurai is a Standalone Expansion Shogun 2 Like Pharaoh - Dynasties is a Standalone Expansion of Pharaoh they are 2 Separate games.

[Defmonkey]

Originally posted by Darth Alpharius:

Originally posted by TheOrangeBox:

why Fall of the Samurai for Shogun 2?

Fall of the Samurai is a Standalone Expansion Shogun 2 Like Pharaoh - Dynasties is a Standalone Expansion of Pharaoh they are 2 Separate games.

Hmmm.... i get what you mean but its not quite same as Shogun 2 / Fall of Samurai relationship

Fall of Samurai was originally a DLC. Later they made it a saga game. Pharaoh and Pharaoh dynasties are going to be same product from the off set.... its not a separate steam store product from what i understand. Bit like Rome 2 then Rome 2 empire edition that came out a year later or whatever it was.

[Darth Alpharius]

Originally posted by Defmonkey:

Originally posted by Darth Alpharius:

Fall of the Samurai is a Standalone Expansion Shogun 2 Like Pharaoh - Dynasties is a Standalone Expansion of Pharaoh they are 2 Separate games.

Hmmm.... i get what you mean but its not quite same as Shogun 2 / Fall of Samurai relationship

Fall of Samurai was originally a DLC. Later they made it a saga game. Pharaoh and Pharaoh dynasties are going to be same product from the off set.... its not a separate steam store product from what i understand. Bit like Rome 2 then Rome 2 empire edition that came out a year later or whatever it was.

Hmmm.... re reading the Faq its more akin to Medieval 2 Definitive Edition where you can swap between kingdoms and Grand Campaign

[Defmonkey]

Originally posted by Darth Alpharius:

Originally posted by Defmonkey:

Hmmm.... i get what you mean but its not quite same as Shogun 2 / Fall of Samurai relationship

Fall of Samurai was originally a DLC. Later they made it a saga game. Pharaoh and Pharaoh dynasties are going to be same product from the off set.... its not a separate steam store product from what i understand. Bit like Rome 2 then Rome 2 empire edition that came out a year later or whatever it was.

Hmmm.... re reading the Faq its more akin to Medieval 2 Definitive Edition where you can swap between kingdoms and Grand Campaign

Yes correct

[Defmonkey]

Though that said, they have worded the FAQ pretty carefully, they state last "planned" update / DLC.... so they have left the door open if they were to change their mind or drop a surprise update in future. I would not hold my breath for anything else though.

[Gegenpress]

Originally posted by Defmonkey:

Though that said, they have worded the FAQ pretty carefully, they state last "planned" update / DLC.... so they have left the door open if they were to change their mind or drop a surprise update in future. I would not hold my breath for anything else though.

It's likely just wording. People trying to parse these things like lawyers are wasting their time. It's a FAQ, not a legal document

[Defmonkey]

Originally posted by Gegenpress:

Originally posted by Defmonkey:

Though that said, they have worded the FAQ pretty carefully, they state last "planned" update / DLC.... so they have left the door open if they were to change their mind or drop a surprise update in future. I would not hold my breath for anything else though.

It's likely just wording. People trying to parse these things like lawyers are wasting their time. It's a FAQ, not a legal document

Well yes, it could just be whatever. That's why as i stated, i don't think theres much point holding ones breath over it.

That said, CA have been known to be specific with wording in past, both in dropping hints and implying things. Pharaoh especially has been hit hard due to poorly worded public announcements / relations. Its only going to be human nature for people to read into things, even more so when there is history of it.

[TheOrangeBox]

Originally posted by Darth Alpharius:

Originally posted by TheOrangeBox:

why Fall of the Samurai for Shogun 2?

Fall of the Samurai is a Standalone Expansion Shogun 2 Like Pharaoh - Dynasties is a Standalone Expansion of Pharaoh they are 2 Separate games.

It's more the full edition than an expansion considering the DLC, extended maps, and new mechanics that were originally mentioned in the road map as paid DLCs.
So Total War Pharaoh Dynasties is more what it says than a Pharaoh adds on.
It also makes more sense to just wrap it up in one game for technical reasons, it's just a bigger game now.

[HistoryPlayer]

is true there will be cavalry?

[TheOrangeBox]

Originally posted by HistoryPlayer:

is true there will be cavalry?

Yes

[Herr Robert]

Originally posted by Defmonkey:

Though that said, they have worded the FAQ pretty carefully, they state last "planned" update / DLC.... so they have left the door open if they were to change their mind or drop a surprise update in future. I would not hold my breath for anything else though.

If sales go well I think we can expect more, but we will just have to wait and see. It will be very good value for money once Dynasties is released, so I think chances are good.

[Sunbather]

Originally posted by Gegenpress:

Originally posted by Defmonkey:

Though that said, they have worded the FAQ pretty carefully, they state last "planned" update / DLC.... so they have left the door open if they were to change their mind or drop a surprise update in future. I would not hold my breath for anything else though.

It's likely just wording. People trying to parse these things like lawyers are wasting their time. It's a FAQ, not a legal document

Yes. Except for the fact that the gaming industry has changed radically over the past decade if you haven't noticed that already. Every news output from AA levels upwards is now so carefully worded as if the whole capitalistic world system depended on it. Or put differently: they are, in fact, now commonly worded like legal documents except that the technical vocabulary is different, of course.