The End of CA

[Sanhedrin]

Here it is. We will not get another game on the caliber of medieval 2 or shogun 2 total war from CA. Our hopes should have gone other places ever since rome 2 but here we still are 5 more blundered titles post mortem. Let's focus on energies on hoping another company takes up the mantle of allowing us to command massive armies.

[Iskar]

S2 has less regions and unit variety than Pharaoh. What's your point?

[Killersnipe]

Originally posted by Sanhedrin:

Here it is. We will not get another game on the caliber of medieval 2 or shogun 2 total war from CA. Our hopes should have gone other places ever since rome 2 but here we still are 5 more blundered titles post mortem. Let's focus on energies on hoping another company takes up the mantle of allowing us to command massive armies.

Not necessarily. It will all depend on the next official mainline title put out by the main historical team at CA which has yet to be announced but will likely come out end of 2024 or in 2025. If this game flops then yes, the Total War franchise is basically dead. If it is a hit though then it could see a revitalization of the franchise. Legend of Total War put out a tier list video recently ranking the various years of the Total War series and shows that they basically have these five year cycles where we see major disaster launches. We are in about a 3 year low but 3K (the last mainline historical title from the main team) was largely successful and sold well. The Saga titles have been a failure since the start though and Pharaoh is a legacy of the Saga formula with the smaller team that made Saga Troy attempting to make a larger game (this obviously failed and Pharaoh is now priced like any other Saga title). I will still wait to hear from the main historical team on their next project before passing final judgement on the studio's future

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2a_COa809xg

[Sanhedrin]

Originally posted by Iskar:

S2 has less regions and unit variety than Pharaoh. What's your point?

That has to be the most abstract point you could make. How is the size of the game map the deciding factor for you?

Originally posted by Killersnipe:

Not necessarily. It will all depend on the next official mainline title put out by the main historical team at CA which has yet to be announced but will likely come out end of 2024 or in 2025. If this game flops then yes, the Total War Franchise is basically dead. If it is a hit though then it could see a revitalization of the franchise. Legend of Total War put out a tier list video recently ranking the various years of the Total War franchise and shows that they basically have these five year cycles where we see major disaster launches. We are in about a 3 year low but 3K (the last mainline historical title from the main team) was largely successful and sold well. The Saga titles have been a failure since the start though and Pharaoh is a legacy of the Saga formula with the smaller team that made Saga Troy attempting to make a larger game (this obviously failed and Pharaoh is now priced like any other Saga title). I will still wait to hear from the main historical team on their next project before passing final judgement on the studio's future

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2a_COa809xg

Also an abstract point. If they release a pokemon total war it will get massive sales and high reviews just cause pokemon and anime fans will pay for and gobble up anything that has to do with cartoons or an opportunity to enslave and abuse animals. In the 1800s these same "people" would be participating in c ock fights and pit bull fights. Its the same reason the lackluster, essentially mobile game, warhammer total war was such a big hit. It had to do with warhammer and warhammer fans will buy anything that has "warhammer" in the name and play it indefinetely ever after. This "franchise" started as a histoical title for realistic massive scale combat. We will not see it again from ca. If only because the warscape engine is not designed for it and never was.

[Elitewrecker PT]

"It had to do with warhammer and warhammer fans will buy anything that has "warhammer" in the name and play it indefinetely ever after."

Tell that to AoS Realms of Ruin

[Sanhedrin]

You have over 2000 hours in warhammer games which makes you angry and biased towards anyone saying anything negative about warhammer. Its called sunken cost fallacy.

Does AoS realms of Ruin have "warhammer" in its name? warhammer fans were confused that is why they failed to buy this title even though it was really a warhammer game.

[IonizedMercury]

If the haterazzi believed their own words, they wouldn't spend so much time arguing on the board for a game they don't own.

Just block the haterazzi, let them shout at walls.

[Sanhedrin]

Originally posted by IonizedMercury:

If the haterazzi believed their own words, they wouldn't spend so much time arguing on the board for a game they don't own.

Just block the haterazzi, let them shout at walls.

Is someone trying to stop you from ruining the entertainment industry? Just block em! Welcome to the new generation!!

[TheOrangeBox]

Every end has a new beginning
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[Elitewrecker PT]

Originally posted by Sanhedrin:

You have over 2000 hours in warhammer games which makes you angry and biased towards anyone saying anything negative about warhammer. Its called sunken cost fallacy.

Does AoS realms of Ruin have "warhammer" in its name? warhammer fans were confused that is why they failed to buy this title even though it was really a warhammer game.

I'm not angry nor biased. Was just saying that it's not just a matter of having "Warhammer" in the title to generate lots of sales.
And yes, it has Warhammer in the title.
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1844380/Warhammer_Age_of_Sigmar_Realms_of_Ruin/

Regardless, CA is still most likely working on another more classic historical title.

[Sanhedrin]

Originally posted by Elitewrecker PT:

Originally posted by Sanhedrin:

You have over 2000 hours in warhammer games which makes you angry and biased towards anyone saying anything negative about warhammer. Its called sunken cost fallacy.

Does AoS realms of Ruin have "warhammer" in its name? warhammer fans were confused that is why they failed to buy this title even though it was really a warhammer game.

I'm not angry nor biased. Was just saying that it's not just a matter of having "Warhammer" in the title to generate lots of sales.
And yes, it has Warhammer in the title.
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1844380/Warhammer_Age_of_Sigmar_Realms_of_Ruin/

Regardless, CA is still most likely working on another more classic historical title.

This is nit picking. My point was metaphorical in that anything to do with warhammer gets lots of sales by default like pokemon. The thing about age of sigmar is that not many warhammer fans truly consider it warhammer. Its an outlier and therefore this example doesn't stand against my point.

[Eddie G]

Originally posted by TheOrangeBox:

Every end has a new beginning
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"All is governed by one universal truth. All that begins must end. The Reign of the Old Shogunate is OVER!"

[Killersnipe]

Originally posted by Eddie G:

"The Reign of the Old Shogunate is OVER!"

"The time of the orc has come."

[rolfvonsmirker]

Originally posted by Iskar:

S2 has less regions and unit variety than Pharaoh. What's your point?

And yet, it had a charm and replayability that this lacks. I've never dropped a TW game as quickly as I did this one.

RIP CA

[Iskar]

Originally posted by rolfvonsmirker:

Originally posted by Iskar:

S2 has less regions and unit variety than Pharaoh. What's your point?

And yet, it had a charm and replayability that this lacks. I've never dropped a TW game as quickly as I did this one.

RIP CA

That's sad for you. I'm on my eighth campaign in this one and already have the next two in mind. I guess it's really just a question of taste.

[rolfvonsmirker]

Originally posted by Iskar:

Originally posted by rolfvonsmirker:

And yet, it had a charm and replayability that this lacks. I've never dropped a TW game as quickly as I did this one.

RIP CA

That's sad for you. I'm on my eighth campaign in this one and already have the next two in mind. I guess it's really just a question of taste.

JFC, this is bleak. lmao