Should I be Horde, Settling, or both with Iolaos?

[laagamer]

Having a bit of trouble figuring out how to get his economy going.

Settling seems like the only way to earn resources outside of sacking.

And what's the point of the special outposts? Seems like they're meant to have a city in the middle with a bunch of garrison defenders. But his early game economy doesn't seem able to support filling that many spots early on.

There also doesn't seem to be a way to stop enemies from occupying ruins without settling them yourself.

I'm kinda just razing and occupying then not really building any defense

Thanks! Just curious what you guys are doing.

[evilMoo]

the outposts can be used for a few things. when having a army selected you can send it to a outpost or shrine and receive a temporary buff of lowered upkeep, immunity to attrition and it can refund part of the cost of movement. they can also increase the size of the garrison. very useful for defense and movement of armies and good for using just before a attack on a enemy city.

[laagamer]

Originally posted by evilMoo:

the outposts can be used for a few things. when having a army selected you can send it to a outpost or shrine and receive a temporary buff of lowered upkeep, immunity to attrition and it can refund part of the cost of movement. they can also increase the size of the garrison. very useful for defense and movement of armies and good for using just before a attack on a enemy city.

Oh, sorry, I meant more are you occupying cities with him?

The enemy just seems to reoccupy them and destroy your outposts.

[jonoliveira12]

Horde is WAY stronger, to be fair.

[Iskar]

You can settle and still have hordes as armed forces. It does influence what roster you recruit from, though, and some bonuses apply to settled or horde units only.

[Kendji]

Having the same questions, can't decide

[Defmonkey]

I am going horde for this run through, seems to be the intended focus for Iolaos. Path of marauder and just razing everything i see. I am not occupying anything. Just building the tribal outposts where i feel like and burn all else to the ground. Very much like a khorne campaign in Warhammer 3

[jonoliveira12]

Originally posted by Defmonkey:

I am going horde for this run through, seems to be the intended focus for Iolaos. Path of marauder and just razing everything i see. I am not occupying anything. Just building the tribal outposts where i feel like and burn all else to the ground. Very much like a khorne campaign in Warhammer 3

At least Khorne, in WH3, requires you to play battles, to be efficient.

[Defmonkey]

Originally posted by jonoliveira12:

Originally posted by Defmonkey:

I am going horde for this run through, seems to be the intended focus for Iolaos. Path of marauder and just razing everything i see. I am not occupying anything. Just building the tribal outposts where i feel like and burn all else to the ground. Very much like a khorne campaign in Warhammer 3

At least Khorne, in WH3, requires you to play battles, to be efficient.

This depends on what difficulty settings you are playing and if you adjusting starting settings to increase difficulty in your campaign customization options. You could make it pretty difficult if you wanted to. If you are just playing vanilla default then yes you are going to find it easy, its also marked as an easy campaign,

That said, playing the battles are more efficient in normal playthroughs. I've found in my campaign that auto resolving seems to slow my game down as have to spend turns in encamp stance to recover losses in which fighting manually i would not need o.

On legendary / Veteran ironman playthoughs i have completed in this game i find the opposite, its going to be more efficient to auto resolve most battles (chariot auto resolve sucks, but you don't have chariots usually with Iolaos anyway).

[jonoliveira12]

Originally posted by Defmonkey:

Originally posted by jonoliveira12:

At least Khorne, in WH3, requires you to play battles, to be efficient.

This depends on what difficulty settings you are playing and if you adjusting starting settings to increase difficulty in your campaign customization options. You could make it pretty difficult if you wanted to. If you are just playing vanilla default then yes you are going to find it easy, its also marked as an easy campaign,

That said, playing the battles are more efficient in normal playthroughs. I've found in my campaign that auto resolving seems to slow my game down as have to spend turns in encamp stance to recover losses in which fighting manually i would not need o.

On legendary / Veteran ironman playthoughs i have completed in this game i find the opposite, its going to be more efficient to auto resolve most battles (chariot auto resolve sucks, but you don't have chariots usually with Iolaos anyway).

I am not that good a player, so I play Normal.
With Amenmesse and Irsu, Normals was good enough of a challenge. I just think the Sea Peoples are much overtuned, and could use some nerfs, mostly to raze resource gatherings, and replenishment.

[Defmonkey]

Originally posted by jonoliveira12:

Originally posted by Defmonkey:

This depends on what difficulty settings you are playing and if you adjusting starting settings to increase difficulty in your campaign customization options. You could make it pretty difficult if you wanted to. If you are just playing vanilla default then yes you are going to find it easy, its also marked as an easy campaign,

That said, playing the battles are more efficient in normal playthroughs. I've found in my campaign that auto resolving seems to slow my game down as have to spend turns in encamp stance to recover losses in which fighting manually i would not need o.

On legendary / Veteran ironman playthoughs i have completed in this game i find the opposite, its going to be more efficient to auto resolve most battles (chariot auto resolve sucks, but you don't have chariots usually with Iolaos anyway).

I am not that good a player, so I play Normal.
With Amenmesse and Irsu, Normals was good enough of a challenge. I just think the Sea Peoples are much overtuned, and could use some nerfs, mostly to raze resource gatherings, and replenishment.

I have yet to get through both the new campaigns so have yet to make my mind on it fully. Though Pharaoh has quite possibly the best campaign customization options of any total war game.

If CA do another balance pass then OK but, You can nerf yourself pretty easily if you are finding aspects unchallenged.

[Many-Named]

I'm playing him as marauder as the guy is literally a crazy warchief, his econ is very strong provided you don't get more than 1 or 2 armies at most. Once I play the Peleset I will try to settle etc, but this guy is basically Blonde Archaeon, I just don't see him settling anywhere.

[laagamer]

Originally posted by Defmonkey:

I am going horde for this run through, seems to be the intended focus for Iolaos. Path of marauder and just razing everything i see. I am not occupying anything. Just building the tribal outposts where i feel like and burn all else to the ground. Very much like a khorne campaign in Warhammer 3

Are you putting defenders in the towers?

10 measly defenders seems like a waste of resources

[Defmonkey]

Originally posted by laagamer:

Are you putting defenders in the towers?

10 measly defenders seems like a waste of resources

No. I dont bother. Same with forts in general.

You should not be turtle-ing up and just go on the all out offensive.

It takes a bit of getting over old habits as a normal settled faction. Just go all in. You prop up your economy this way.


Edit:

This should be you as Iolaos

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DPXG4pdPj4w

[Defmonkey]

Oh, just to add to my previous post above... it should look like this on the campaign map as you go round taking out all the outposts...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NM5X1EfO3Wg

and like this when deciding what to do when you win a siege or minor settlement battle....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UkALP2SS2M4

[Cyber]

If you want an easy campaign go horde and raze, doesn't get any easier than that even on Legendary.
You won't have to worry about building management or defense.