Gameplay over Graphics

[chubbyninja89 (TNB)]

I was thinking of naming this thread Performance over Graphics or something, but gameplay sounded better.

And I will say, that this is more of a general TW discussion than purely a Pharaoh one, but I think that it's still fair to talk about, as this is the latest historical TW game and I would just like to see things improve in the future.

But I know that CA has never been a company that tries to push the graphics in their games to such a level that we can zoom in and see the pores on each soldier's face, but I do think that CA could stand to slightly simplify the graphics and such.

And please understand, that I said simplify, not remove.

But I just really want to see the TW games be able to have larger scale battles without having to have a 10k dollar computer to run them.

I think that they could have the following couple of things really help by having them as the default settings in the game.

1. Go back to using "clone troops".
2. Simplify and standardize animation sets.

Those are just the two most impactful things I could think of right off the top of my head.

I'll put them in the first comment so that this OP isn't too long.

[chubbyninja89 (TNB)]

Publicado originalmente por Myrden:

I agree with you, graphics certainly aren't everything. FWIW, I don't like the newer graphics from TW and prefer Attila and before, but personally I see the newer stuff as a reduction in quality anyway.

This is all bias coming from years of playing with mods though so I couldn't rightly say. All I do know is that the community would kick off if the graphics began to get downgraded. I wouldn't be one of them, I'm just saying what I think would happen.

Well, I do think that the "newer style" does fit the Warhammer games at least.

And I don't know, I think that if CA can give us not only a blog post, but also a couple of decent length videos explaining or showing why they're simplifying the graphics and such of, let's say an Empire 2, then people would be ok with it, because it was explained to them rather than just put into place with barely a word.

I think that if they made a couple of interviews or better yet, in game explanation videos that were even just 10 or 15 minutes long, which explain and show off the game and why these changes work, people would probably be ok with it all.

[chubbyninja89 (TNB)]

Publicado originalmente por Myrden:

Games like...?

Just to answer that question, since I forgot to actually mention it earlier.

There's games like Minecraft, Among Us, and even Fortnite that are pretty popular and don't have to rely on having great graphics. But those are just 3 games I can think of off the top of my head at the moment.

[Adventurous350]

Publicado originalmente por chubbyninja89 (TNB):

Publicado originalmente por Myrden:

Games like...?

Just to answer that question, since I forgot to actually mention it earlier.

There's games like Minecraft, Among Us, and even Fortnite that are pretty popular and don't have to rely on having great graphics. But those are just 3 games I can think of off the top of my head at the moment.

None of those games have or will reduce graphics quality in the future though. They will only improve. There are plenty of games with poor graphics that are fantastic though. I won't argue that.

[will.case1111]

You can already do all that. Set graphics to lowest, except for unit size, and subscribe to a larger unit size mod.
There you have it. Clone troops and watercolor graphics.

[chubbyninja89 (TNB)]

Publicado originalmente por Adventurous350:

None of those games have or will reduce graphics quality in the future though. They will only improve. There are plenty of games with poor graphics that are fantastic though. I won't argue that.

Well, I was more so using those games as examples of games that can be successful and all without having super great graphics.

And I don't think that if we ever see a Fortnite or Among Us 2 that they'll try to push their graphics to crazy levels compared to the last ones, that's all.

[chubbyninja89 (TNB)]

Publicado originalmente por will.case1111:

You can already do all that. Set graphics to lowest, except for unit size, and subscribe to a larger unit size mod.
There you have it. Clone troops and watercolor graphics.

Well, I've still experienced slow down and such despite doing those things, and I have a fairly good computer setup.

And I don't mean to sound like a doom and gloom guy, but I just realized that CA could improve the general performance of future TW games because I realized just how much computers have to process when running a TW game.

I realized that the computer has to factor in every soldier that's in the battle, but also things like the various animation sets that that unit uses as well as ALL the variations of other things that go into TW battles, and that even on low settings, that can be a LOT to process.

So I just think that it'd be nice if CA did these sorts of things by default, that way the TW experience could be a tad more accessible to more people who don't all have super great computers.