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[Jevenix]

Alright so I finally spent one week playing Pharaoh and it was fun. But after 1 week I think I had enough. In comparison to 2130 played hours in WH3...

Whole mechanic of invasion is interesting but with poor auto-resolve, which is not based on battle difficulty (cant be lowered for auto-resolve and increased for manual play) it is very tiresome to play more than 1-2 hours on one turn in late campaign... ofc if I don't want to destroy all my senior armies..

Army composition is very flat. I miss cavalry. no catapults, no animals.. Just chariots which are totally useless in sieges (can't even pass empty gates because they get stuck at enter)

Every battle is pretty much same. Use infantry to pin enemies (which are not even trying to flank me or run for my archers) they only charge straight at my front line and then I walk around with my archers/chariots and shoot/charge them in the back...

I am not sure if there is option to switch off changing day and night on campaign map but it is changing too fast and confused me in late campaign when I played turns longer.

Reliability in diplomacy didn't play any effect, except worse rates in trades. When unreliable, on one declared war at me or cancelled agreements because everyone was busy chasing invasion forces across whole map and leaving their territories undefended, easy for picking.

I enjoyed several features like movement ranges (refill at outposts, different legacies, court actions, bonuses from becoming pharaoh and other small stuff which made progress through campaign interesting.

Now I finally understand why was everyone winging about price, because sadly it is not worth it.

[oOIYvYIOo]

Tell us when you play on Legendary level and go for Ultimate Victory, without Customs, on Iron Man, Veteran.

"it is very tiresome to play more than 1-2 hours on one turn in late campaign" aah this says all ... your not a TW player, you should keep yourself on arcade fantasy games.

Bye bye.

[Jevenix]

I play on legendary - veteran - default settings (Iron Man)

And the way I meant that comment you quote is I prefer play on campaign map and challenging battles. Not wasting my time playing 100 same easy battles again and again. Because that is what autoresolve should do - save time.

[easytarget]

Don't waste your time with him, he's definitely not worth it.

[BEEP!]

Originally posted by oOIYvYIOo:

Tell us when you play on Legendary level and go for Ultimate Victory, without Customs, on Iron Man, Veteran.

"it is very tiresome to play more than 1-2 hours on one turn in late campaign" aah this says all ... your not a TW player, you should keep yourself on arcade fantasy games.

Bye bye.

Wow what a ♥♥♥♥ you are just because they probably don't play on the most unfair & hardest mode which doesn't even make the AI much harder it just let's them heavily cheat that makes there experience invalid to you you do know the vast majority of people that play TW game's don't play them on the hardest mode possible does that make 90% of everyone not TW players & there opinion invalid as a TW player.
Your what we call a gatekeeper & the toxic part if the community that nobody likes because your instantly hostile to anyone you don't like the opinions of.

[valky]

Originally posted by easytarget:

Don't waste your time with him, he's definitely not worth it.

I guess he gets a hard one, every time some one replies to him......while I'd argue he is keen in 3-4 TW games, he only played like 3-4 TW games :) and there is that......even if he 'mastered' them or whatever.....

@topic: yeah, game gets boring really fast-----I play with Tausret and have fought off the numerous desert guys (oh; for the wicked guy: veteran difficulty with basic settings and veteran BAI) and once I had secured the western border with proper shrines (Horus/anubis/isis) I gathered my 13 (? or something) armies and currently go for the crown. It's currently a very long turn.....
auto-resolve is worse than in any other TW, and even a single enemy Khopesh general gets mystical 86+ kills against a level 20+ general with rank 9 units.

There ain't much to do currently......Tausrets' chariots do most of the heavy lifting in an open or town battle. It's basically attack, play battle manually to avoid stupid losses, rinse and repeat......
Upper Egypt archers (or semi Ta-Seti) with the top-tier trait are next to insane....(with the cowardly-trait ^^)

For some reason, Troy kinda had a different feel to the battles, which got kinda lost.

I dunno, I kinda got bored already after or in between 1 campaign.....

My first campaign in Troy was *uhm* Odysseus - and I sooooo loved the stalk+snipe javelin approach - that was before the mythic stuff got patched in. (and the troy special battle with the troyan horse is some else entirely ^^). I enjoyed Penthesilea for the horde-stuff and to the lesser Rhesus.


Though, they should patch in veteran/legendary achievements again......
(even, if a dead-child, that just got brutalized by SATAN could in theory achieve the victory.....given it is filled with enough blood)

The first 20-25ish turns are what matters......WHII/III is a bit more demanding - depending your faction.

sum-up:
- defeat invaders
- ignore first crown-battle
- place armies
- declare civil war
- *yawn*

edit: it's honestly a dumbed down TW game, that offers no real challenge.....
Hard for me to say, but it's boring as shait.....

That being said.....I'll prolly switch over to my little ones campaign in WHIII.
GOBLIN-power! da biggest - da' uggliest.....way more fun :)

[normative]

Originally posted by oOIYvYIOo:

Tell us when you play on Legendary level and go for Ultimate Victory, without Customs, on Iron Man, Veteran.

"it is very tiresome to play more than 1-2 hours on one turn in late campaign" aah this says all ... your not a TW player, you should keep yourself on arcade fantasy games.

Bye bye.

Have you ever done anything with your life except TW? Why do you think playing on Legendary and winning some tourneys ten years ago are impressive? Nobody is impressed my guy, this is very sad to watch.

[Jevenix]

Yeah, I went for 2nd campaign with Amenmesse and this guy is something else. He can easily win 1st Civil War. Doesn't need to bother with sea people and also focusing on East bank, interaction with Libu invaders can be postponed. With Akhetanen legacy I regained Prosperity status at turn 60... + He is extremely rich, I played whole campaign in (-5000 to - 25000) food because he can just buy all resources with gold. Not mentioning Nubian bowmen and Ta-seti longbowmen which eradicate enemy like no-one.

I would go now with Hittites but I really miss more variety in Unit roaster... and also campaign map is bit small... So I guess I will just wait for Thrones of Decay :) which up my most favourite factions Stunties and Men things..

[Darth Alpharius]

Originally posted by Jevenix:

Every battle is pretty much same. Use infantry to pin enemies (which are not even trying to flank me or run for my archers) they only charge straight at my front line and then I walk around with my archers/chariots and shoot/charge them in the back...

I am not sure if there is option to switch off changing day and night on campaign map but it is changing too fast and confused me in late campaign when I played turns longer.

1. that pretty much sums up total war in general.

2. there should be an option in the last tab of campaign customise where you can set to real-time.

[BEEP!]

Originally posted by Darth Alpharius:

Originally posted by Jevenix:

Every battle is pretty much same. Use infantry to pin enemies (which are not even trying to flank me or run for my archers) they only charge straight at my front line and then I walk around with my archers/chariots and shoot/charge them in the back...

I am not sure if there is option to switch off changing day and night on campaign map but it is changing too fast and confused me in late campaign when I played turns longer.

1. that pretty much sums up total war in general.

2. there should be an option in the last tab of campaign customise where you can set to real-time.

It's the main reason why I refunded after messing around with the battles I quickly realized how limited it was and just knew I was going to get board of it very fast the campaign mechanics I actually liked but the actual battles which is the most important thing it what I didn't like it just felt like there was a whole large part of the game just missing then I saw all the planned DLCs and decide it's better to just refund now and wait for the DLCs and then wait for one of those big sales TW gets every year this game really should have sold for like $30-$40 max I feel like it would have done a whole lot better at that price it just feels like those DLCs are like half the game's cut content.

[Darth Alpharius]

There also is no catapult as that tech hasn't been created yet and horse were more for the nobility and they loved chariots.

[BEEP!]

Originally posted by Darth Alpharius:

There also is no catapult as that tech hasn't been created yet and horse were more for the nobility and they loved chariots.

They could have at least fixed the problem with chariots litely bumping into to the group of people and looking like everyone is being overly dramatic lol and getting stuck on everything they just copied & pasted the same old chariot system that was already lazily done and looked terrible to begin with I just wish they could have at least fixed it up and made it look better because you know with how important they are to the time period and region lol.

[valky]

Originally posted by 1080puktra:

Originally posted by Darth Alpharius:

There also is no catapult as that tech hasn't been created yet and horse were more for the nobility and they loved chariots.

The could have at least fixed the problem with chariots litely bumping into to the group of people and looking like everyone is being overly dramatic lol and getting stuck on everything they just copied & pasted the same old chariot system that was already lazily done and looked terrible to begin with I just wish they could have at least fixed it up.

Beastmen-bestigor-chariot goes *vroooooom*

easy to fix though......if they desire to do so.....

Meanwhile, Tuskgor-chariot goes *vrooooom* :P

(and then, it got a bigger brother.....the Razorgor-thingie!...with the most tiniest articulation in Warhammer-History! that brutalizes thru a squad of hammerers - the AP alone kills any entity right away + AI + 100+ charge) I really love it)

[BEEP!]

Originally posted by valky:

Originally posted by 1080puktra:

The could have at least fixed the problem with chariots litely bumping into to the group of people and looking like everyone is being overly dramatic lol and getting stuck on everything they just copied & pasted the same old chariot system that was already lazily done and looked terrible to begin with I just wish they could have at least fixed it up.

Beastmen-bestigor-chariot goes *vroooooom*

easy to fix though......if they desire to do so.....

Meanwhile, Tuskgor-chariot goes *vrooooom* :P

It looks ok with monsters because you know there freaking monsters but a normal chariot in the normal world it just looks so goofy looking and I really don't like chariots much in the modern TW game's because of how the grouping system & health bar system works were there not individual units there basically just a big unit separated into pieces so if one unit gets stuck they all get stuck and just ignore your orders it's so frustrating some time's.

[valky]

^I hate my edit sometimes ^^

edit: I use 1.9/2.1/2.3 for their collision radius......vanilla is sum like 3.7+
I had the same issue, that TK chariot-generals didn't connect his/her/whatever attack.....I think the sh*t still exists, because no one is using chariot-TK lords!

I increased the weapon-length, but to no avail....reduced the entity-radios = win!
The chariot-TK-guy was literally poking the air....

wait a second; ok.....I rather play Khalida again! bye

[Jevenix]

Originally posted by 1080puktra:

Originally posted by Darth Alpharius:

1. that pretty much sums up total war in general.

2. there should be an option in the last tab of campaign customise where you can set to real-time.

It's the main reason why I refunded after messing around with the battles I quickly realized how limited it was and just knew I was going to get board of it very fast the campaign mechanics I actually liked but the actual battles which is the most important thing it what I didn't like it just felt like there was a whole large part of the game just missing then I saw all the planned DLCs and decide it's better to just refund now and wait for the DLCs and then wait for one of those big sales TW gets every year this game really should have sold for like $30-$40 max I feel like it would have done a whole lot better at that price it just feels like those DLCs are like half the game's cut content.

2. - Thanks, finally :) - for some reason I couldn't see it when I was looking for it.