This one or Three Kingdoms???

[NihilistMERC]

Played a lot of Rome 2, Shogun 2, and Medieval 2 years ago. Was looking to jump back in. Was hoping some other TW fans could give me some solid feedback. Thanks!

[LanceSpezzate]

Three Kingdoms

[Vlad the >Implyer]

I enjoy them both, I think it really boils down to which setting you prefer.

[PERICLES1789]

If you prefer cavalry 3K, if you enjoy infantry battles supported by chariots if necessary Pharaoh. Pharaoh takes up the idea of a temporal countdown with a dated invasion like Attila; You may or may not like this kind of count. The diplomacy in both games is good. So is optimization. It's the choice between Iron Age cavalry and Bronze Age chariots that can guide you. Subjectively, Pharaoh's graphics are superb.
Pharaoh has a lot of adjustable settings. 3K has quite a few DLCs that have been released. The question of the future of DLC for Pharaoh arises given its relative commercial failure. Although there is a contract of 4 possible DLCs with Pharaoh, with a discount, but an unknown roadmap. Both games are good, with a steeper learning curve for 3K. Pharaoh can be made easier by the settings. Good games anyway.

[Ultrabot]

last major historical release is 3K. this one, despite the marketing is not.
Crossbows are decent in 3k, cav are pretty OP, otherwise plays more or less the same as any other TW game for the last decade. It's alright, I stuck to records mode.

[Abacus]

3k is actually a very good game

It started using Warhammer's method of giving specialized mechanics per faction.

So everyone play very different.

All the DLC are great. even the one that covers a later era, as all eight of the Sima clan have the specialized faction.

The biggest issue is stopping the dev without ever getting to the three kingdoms start date. We mostly focused on the early story but it goes way longer and we never got the full breadth of the story.

[dulany67]

3K

[Ultrabot]

Originally posted by Simply B:

3k is actually a very good game

It started using Warhammer's method of giving specialized mechanics per faction.

So everyone play very different.

All the DLC are great. even the one that covers a later era, as all eight of the Sima clan have the specialized faction.

The biggest issue is stopping the dev without ever getting to the three kingdoms start date. We mostly focused on the early story but it goes way longer and we never got the full breadth of the story.

yah the DLCs weren't selling we guess, so they cancelled the expansions. The first DLC wasn't a good choice. I didn't get any of the others

[Abacus]

Originally posted by Ultrabot:

Originally posted by Simply B:

3k is actually a very good game

It started using Warhammer's method of giving specialized mechanics per faction.

So everyone play very different.

All the DLC are great. even the one that covers a later era, as all eight of the Sima clan have the specialized faction.

The biggest issue is stopping the dev without ever getting to the three kingdoms start date. We mostly focused on the early story but it goes way longer and we never got the full breadth of the story.

yah the DLCs weren't selling we guess, so they cancelled the expansions. The first DLC wasn't a good choice. I didn't get any of the others

The DLC where actually great. Obviously you can pass on the one that goes a few hundred years ahead.

The later DLC where more interesting then the Yellow turbans dlc though (since we alreday had them in the game.)

[Ultrabot]

I did get the blood, tbf. But I tend to pick up things like that on sales as bundles.
If they'd made a large expansion pack with say 5 of those dlcs as one, I think they'd have had more interest. These huge lists of DLC are real put off, and for a new customer could be an immediate "nope, I aint reading all that"

[TheOrangeBox]

Three Kingdoms if you love complexity for the sake of complexity.

[BEEP!]

3K by a long shot especially since it has a very active modding scene & already massive mods made for it.

[degumuto_berseg]

3k is great game,dont mlss it

[BEEP!]

Originally posted by degumuto_berseg:

3k is great game,dont mlss it

Yea 3K is my favorite TW mostly because of my bias I'm Japanese & went over to China a lot so that whole Chinese fantasy & history was awesome to me hell I still religiously read Wushu & Chinese Cultivation of the body digital books all the time's.
I'll never forgive them fir dropping it especially they didn't even release half the content they could have.

[Aluminum Elite Master]

Probably 3K is the better of the two.

I think Pharaoh does a lot of things quite well, but what I am finding after a couple of ultimate victory campaigns is that there's already not a lot left for me to do. The factions are not different enough to justify a lot of different play-throughs... and the legacies do alright for varying Egypt a bit, but both Hittites and Canaan don't get much variety there (just 2 legacies each).

So, Pharaoh is a solid game, but it's not got the replay-ability that 3K still does.

[Killersnipe]

I would recommend 3K over this one. It is built on a newer engine, whereas Pharoah is built on a modified WH 2 Total War engine, same as Troy Total War and this version of the engine makes historical unit battles a bit janky. Total War Three Kingdoms is built on a newer engine designed specifically for that game and not a version of engine designed for a fantasy warhammer game and forced onto a historical title. In other words, 3K is a genuine historical title whereas Pharoah is a glorified Saga title using an older engine as Saga titles tend to do