Total War: PHARAOH

Total War: PHARAOH

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rlbz1 Oct 27, 2023 @ 11:43pm
Naval Battles
Naval battles should definitely make a comeback in Total War games. It's a shame that they are missing, especially in a setting like the Bronze Age Collapse. Creative Assembly, please consider reintroducing naval battles to Total War in the future!

I believe that a combined land and sea campaign, perhaps featuring the Sea Peoples, would be absolutely amazing. It could add significant immersion to the Bronze Age Collapse setting by allowing players to utilize naval units to raid coastal settlements. This would introduce a new dimension of gameplay, providing a refreshing change from the typical land battles. Sea battles would be a natural fit to the Total War and enhance the game.

The long awaited RETURN of naval battles would be a welcome addition for long-time fans of historical Total War games. Your consideration of this would be greatly appreciated CA. Loyal customers would appreciate naval battles.
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simeon369 Oct 27, 2023 @ 11:45pm 
I know a lot of people didn't like them but I personally enjoyed them.
EatExcreteRepeat Oct 27, 2023 @ 11:46pm 
I'm a loyal customer. I've been playing since Rome 1, and also went back to play Medieval 1 after Rome.

Naval battles were a minigame I didn't care about, because I was playing the main game of land battles. Continue devoting all artist and dev effort to land battles, please.
Defmonkey Oct 27, 2023 @ 11:52pm 
Yeah, naval battles really weren't very good. Only Napoleon and Empire were OK but very clunky in my opinion, and perhaps fall of the samurai.

For pharaoh, i'm not sure how they would do it to make it good. Theres no ramming, it would be a few archers on boats, some fighting platforms and maybe, as the drawing from Ramesses 3 of battle of the delta implies, throwing ropes over the ships sails to tip over the boats?

The other options are to have some kind of landing battles or using boats as naval siege towers in cities along cost or down the Nile...

Not sure what else they could do to make it compelling if its to stay within a broadly historical context.
rlbz1 Oct 28, 2023 @ 12:22am 
Well, in Shogun 2 you could build trade ships and capture trade routes. Trade was vital in the Bronze Age. The whole period is limited technologically, so naval battles even though limited are still possible and historically accurate. I don’t know if you can share links to videos, but here is one on Bronze Age Naval battles. Anyway, maybe historical battles can return too for showcasing engagements like the Battle of the Nile Delta as depicted at Medinet Habu. https://youtu.be/NLaiiYDGdUE?si=-syQ7XQBt2Tdl_va
redrose2 Oct 28, 2023 @ 12:28am 
you dont new wait for good naval game. try this Ultimate Admiral: Age of Sail. if Total War will do somthing like this will be miracle ... low chance if they do this (this is me opinion)
Defmonkey Oct 28, 2023 @ 12:40am 
Originally posted by rlbz1:
Well, in Shogun 2 you could build trade ships and capture trade routes.

Well that's sort of been a thing since Empire and Napoleon. (Though for empire my memory of it is a bit sketchy, but definitely Napoleon as i replayed all the campaigns recently)

I definitely think trade routes should be a thing. Thats a good mechanic to improve income, relations and perhaps more trade of finished goods. Something else to fight over. They should be land based ones also, e.g. amber road trade from Baltics / tin from Indus at edge of map etc.

Though naval battles themselves i remain cautious of. I would be very happy if they could prove me wrong and make it compelling to play though.
Straybow Oct 28, 2023 @ 2:07am 
Hypothetically if naval battle come back shall it be empire with dedicated transports or Rome II with army transports? I think the former makes it easier to include.
0zzie Oct 28, 2023 @ 6:29am 
All is needed is 1 ship model and a boarding and skirmishing party.
HaleLythronax Nov 13, 2024 @ 3:05pm 
I'm dying for them to make an empire 2 with modern graphics and details like pharaoh with the footprints and fire mechanics, dynamic blood and weather affects. And for them to do that there has to be naval battles because the ones in empire were super cool and even today hold up still. I think it deserves a strong revisit as the warhammer ones have just gotten stale to me and overloaded. As much as I love warhammer and played one and 2 a lot it just doesn't feel very good now. The historical titles are the best ones
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