Next main historical Total War?

[BestCopperNoob™]

I fear to be TK 2 . If next main title is TK', Series would die.

[Gibbo]

Hopefully something really woke. :D

[Ajax]

Originally posted by PERICLES1789:

I agree with your post in every way. With two caveats: a Medieval trademark was still registered, 3K which was a success had a historical mode, just like Troy in the end.

I completely forgot about CA making a registered trademark for a new Medieval title. I recall there was some discussion on whether it meant a Medieval 3 or a Remastered version of the original Medieval or Medieval 2 but nothing has yet been confirmed. You're right about Three Kingdoms being a success both commercially and critically, and I think Thrones sales weren't too bad either.

I am currently playing Troy's historical mode and I've been enjoying it so far. Sadly though, it seems that 'historical' modes in both Three Kingdoms and Troy are something of an afterthought in comparison to the 'fantasy/mythical' modes. Hopefully if CA do decide to release all future historically focused titles with both 'records/historical' and 'fantasy/mythical' modes they'll give as much attention to detail as they've done with Thrones and Pharaoh, and not just have it be the same as 'mythical' mode but without the magic.

[Kendji]

Honestly, if it is Med3 I'm boycotting it or getting it on a sale, all the toxic personal insults, trolling and hate for something that isn't away from the haters (the game could have flopped just by people not buying it, but people still chose hate instead). They poisoned a title I would have been excited for. 3K2 I would still buy, the first one was good, played it a lot.

[Hexagoros]

Originally posted by GamerCH:

Three Kingdoms 2 is likely not even a Total War game. More like an adventure... and yeah probably on hold given that we haven't heard anything in years about it.

Originally posted by Adventurous350:

I just hope the reaction to Pharaoh doesn't hurt historical titles. It's a great game with alot of great features that may be pulled from the next historical title now.

As for the next title. I recall CA saying they did not plan to do a third of any of their games or atleast for a long time. This was back when they announced the Saga information a few years ago. I feel as though we may see an Empire 2 or similar next. It's been a long time since we had true gunpowder Era warfare. This will certainly require some significant improvements to CAs formula though. They really can't afford to screw it up. Pharaoh's polished release will hopefully continue for future titles.

Yes it has been forever that we last had a gunpowder Total War so I hope chances are high for an Empire 2. Empire 1 is really archaic and hasn't aged well...

Warhammer 1, 2, and 3 all have gunpowder.

Lots of gunpowder, actually.

[Konstantin]

Originally posted by Grizz_FMJ:

Hopefully it's Medieval 3 so all the crybabies shut up and stop boycotting the game. But they'll hate on that too. Gamers these days are blue haired Karens.

Personally, I think the next will be Medieval 3.

Personally I hope it is either Medieval 3 so we will finally have a version that is up to the quality standard introduced with Rome II, Shogun 3 because Shogun could really profit from the Romance mode introduced TK and because unlike TK Shogun whas somehow never released in the native language of the land it is playing in
or a remake of the times from Alexander the Great.

[linas.warrior]

What would you guys think about a Total War game set in North and South America during ancient times? You know, Mayans, Aztecs, Inca and so on. It's the setting CA haven't explored yet. Would it be interesting to the history fans?

[Adventurous350]

Originally posted by Hexagoros:

Originally posted by GamerCH:

Three Kingdoms 2 is likely not even a Total War game. More like an adventure... and yeah probably on hold given that we haven't heard anything in years about it.



Yes it has been forever that we last had a gunpowder Total War so I hope chances are high for an Empire 2. Empire 1 is really archaic and hasn't aged well...

Warhammer 1, 2, and 3 all have gunpowder.

Lots of gunpowder, actually.

Not the same type of gunpowder experience at all lol. The units don't even look right when shooting. It's very arcade like.

You are correct in the fact that those have gunpowder but if they made an Empire 2 that looked like the Warhammer gunpowder units it would be horrible.

[Low Standards]

From the reviews ... who cares at this point.

[BestCopperNoob™]

Originally posted by PERICLES1789:

Originally posted by Ajax:

This is what I fear with the failure of Pharaoh and Thrones. Both games are 'historical' in the old fashioned sense of the word, having none of the 'fantasy' elements of quasi-historical titles like Troy and Three Kingdoms. Both Pharaoh and Thrones were commercial and critical failures, which Sega may interpret as a wholesale rejection of historical Total Wars by the fanbase.
This could either lead to historical Total Wars being killed off entirely, and CA will divert focus to Warhammer or other fantasy settings, or it could just cause them to continue making the quasi-historicals with 'fantasy' type elements like Single Unit Heroes, 'magic' abilities etc.

I agree with your post in every way. With two caveats: a Medieval trademark was still registered, 3K which was a success had a historical mode, just like Troy in the end.

Historical? General hit ariel effect like Warhammer in even Historical mod. And boring same culure. Character rpg focus isnt proper for historical title. I prefer Dynsty focus

[BestCopperNoob™]

Originally posted by linas.warrior:

What would you guys think about a Total War game set in North and South America during ancient times? You know, Mayans, Aztecs, Inca and so on. It's the setting CA haven't explored yet. Would it be interesting to the history fans?

any ancient times arent intresting.

[Stalin]

Originally posted by Hexagoros:

Originally posted by GamerCH:

Three Kingdoms 2 is likely not even a Total War game. More like an adventure... and yeah probably on hold given that we haven't heard anything in years about it.



Yes it has been forever that we last had a gunpowder Total War so I hope chances are high for an Empire 2. Empire 1 is really archaic and hasn't aged well...

Warhammer 1, 2, and 3 all have gunpowder.

Lots of gunpowder, actually.

lol is this a warhammer thread? oh right its not this is a """histoircal""" title so we are talking about a historical gunpowder total war not some stupid elves vs orks total war you have ur game we have decade old games but i forget warhammer nerds can use context clues or basic logic

[Stalin]

Originally posted by BestCopperNoob™:

Originally posted by linas.warrior:

What would you guys think about a Total War game set in North and South America during ancient times? You know, Mayans, Aztecs, Inca and so on. It's the setting CA haven't explored yet. Would it be interesting to the history fans?

any ancient times arent intresting.

*looks at rome 2 player count* uh sure bud sure

[BestCopperNoob™]

Originally posted by Stalin:

Originally posted by BestCopperNoob™:

any ancient times arent intresting.

*looks at rome 2 player count* uh sure bud sure

There are alot of Rome contents. Roman Empire late ancien times. Rome was biggest emipire and militray in Acinet times. I dont prefe american indian acint times. late roman empire in medieval period. I prefer perids after hun invision.

[Stalin]

Originally posted by BestCopperNoob™:

Originally posted by Stalin:

*looks at rome 2 player count* uh sure bud sure

There are alot of Rome contents. Roman Empire late ancien times. Rome was biggest emipire and militray in Acinet times. I dont prefe american indian acint times. late roman empire in medieval period. I prefer perids after hun invision.

first off learn to spell second sooo you like the medieval time period thats fine id love a remastered medieval game or a brand new one but they would ♥♥♥♥ it up anyway so idrc at this point

[Stalin]

Originally posted by rattata:

Originally posted by Karl:

Pharaoh gets blasted over things by people and then these same people praise Shogun 2 that has these problems they claim Pharaoh to have but far greater.

Example the claim that Pharaoh is a saga game in disguise. Even though Shogun 2 would be one too, since it's one country with very little unit variety and even far more similar factions.

Shogun 2 would be a sagas game if released today, that's true. That's due to rising expectations. That's not an issue. If I'm buying a game it's because I want the people I'm buying the game from to make more games I like. Not waste everything on ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ HYENAS.

The thing is there's nothing wrong with Sagas games when they have a setting that A. people are actually interested in like Napoleon or Shogun and B. the price is right, not 60+ dollars like Pharaoh C. The game actually has polish put into it like Shogun 2.

There are millions more people that care about Takeda Shingen and Oda Nobunaga than there than dudes named Wyliam and Aeadgyth or Branthr the Vyking in ToB. Shogun 2 is also not a part of a larger conflict like the Bronze Age Collapse so there's nothing egregiously left out (like Babylonia and the Greeks in Pharaoh) from the setting by including only Japanese factions, unless you wanted to include the Imjin war and Koreans which would be pretty cool for Shogun 3 in 10 years.

Basically nobody is interested in the bronze age and the few that are feel something is missing. The battle gameplay itself doesn't look fun like Shogun 2, but nothing before or after S2 has really been all that fun if we're completely honest since Rome 2 killed the franchise.

i agree on everything besides rome 2 killed the franchise that game with mods is the best total war imo it makes it the game it was supposed to be which is sad that a bunch of unpaid randos had to step in and fix it lol the franchise died after rome 2 that was the flashpoint that's where we can point too and say here is where the franchise decline started that i will agree with