The map in this game is huge:

[JimmyTheSnake]

My initial impression before playing was similar to others - it looked small. But, I think it's important to be fair about this. The map is absolutely immense. You have to see it to understand:
Bottom half of Egypt: https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198007309277/screenshot/2117313645604328358/
Top half of Egypt: https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198007309277/screenshot/2117313645604328071/

And, this is just one portion of the playable area. It is huge. Almost too big because no matter where you start you have a huge front to defend and advance with. I ended up with about 8 armies and had to resort to pincer movements because of the arrangement of desert attrition and outpost locations. I can't even imagine having to defend two fronts. Like with all TW games, once you get that strategic threat modifier pretty much everyone is going to attack you.

[Tzargotha]

I try to keep the peace as long as I can!

[General Plastro]

Not sure if its technically bigger, but it doesnt "feel" big.

You just end up killing the clones of no-name factions over and over again for the vast majority of the game.

[Karl]

Yeah that's one of the arguments i've seen here that makes me think people haven't actually looked into the game or played it when they say that. The map really doesn't seem small to me.

I wonder if these planned DLC will also expand it some.

[dulany67]

The map is large. It was large in Troy also, but Troy's map was appropriate for the scope of the game.

[JimmyTheSnake]

Originally posted by Karl:

Yeah that's one of the arguments i've seen here that makes me think people haven't actually looked into the game or played it when they say that. The map really doesn't seem small to me.

I wonder if these planned DLC will also expand it some.

I sure hope so.

[Defmonkey]

The map is very large. I heard someone complain that there was too much space, of which i think is totally wrong. All this "space" is a very good thing and they have done it very well here. The Warhammer immortal empires map maybe the largest but i think that is one of worst maps of the entire TW franchise as you just leapfrog from town to town every turn because there is no space. Here, you actually have to use the outposts as highways to zip around the map and its quite fun to do and arrange them as such that your army gets the best benefits for each trip.

The only complaint i have about the map are the missing areas, missing civilisations and that the existing areas needs to be flesh out further so that all the nobody factions in the cultures don't all look the same. Its a good start but feels incomplete.

[Vinnie DAngelo]

Originally posted by JimmyTheSnake:

Bottom half of Egypt: https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198007309277/screenshot/2117313645604328358/

You mean Upper Egypt

[Vinnie DAngelo]

Originally posted by JimmyTheSnake:

Top half of Egypt: https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198007309277/screenshot/2117313645604328071/

You mean Lower Egypt.

[El-Cid]

Originally posted by Vinnie DAngelo:

Originally posted by JimmyTheSnake:

Top half of Egypt: https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198007309277/screenshot/2117313645604328071/

You mean Lower Egypt.:TWP_Egyptians:

This guy knows how the Nile Flows.

[oOIYvYIOo]

Originally posted by JimmyTheSnake:

My initial impression before playing was similar to others - it looked small. But, I think it's important to be fair about this. The map is absolutely immense. You have to see it to understand:
Bottom half of Egypt: https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198007309277/screenshot/2117313645604328358/
Top half of Egypt: https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198007309277/screenshot/2117313645604328071/

And, this is just one portion of the playable area. It is huge. Almost too big because no matter where you start you have a huge front to defend and advance with. I ended up with about 8 armies and had to resort to pincer movements because of the arrangement of desert attrition and outpost locations. I can't even imagine having to defend two fronts. Like with all TW games, once you get that strategic threat modifier pretty much everyone is going to attack you.

The TW with the biggest map without doubt.

[Yews]

It really is gargantuan. No idea how it compares to Warhammer, Immortal Empires and all that, but compared to Rome II and Attila I think Pharaoh might actually be larger. Especially when you consider that in Pharaoh, every province contains not only a major settlement, not only a bunch of minor settlements, but also at least one military settlement or waystation per every classic type of settlement, and those waystation settlements pretty much act like settlements in their own right as well. It might very well be the largest historical map this franchise has seen. It honestly felt overwhelming the moment I realised that there were about eight named locations in front of me while I was looking at a single province, and that the entire map consists of such giant provinces with a lot of stuff going on in every one of them. And some of them are not even settled when the game begins.

Originally posted by General Plastro:

You just end up killing the clones of no-name factions over and over again for the vast majority of the game.

Welcome to historical strategy experience. Games like Rome might not feel like this because they simplify entire civilisations to a couple settlements; in real life, look at the Holy Roman Empire. Entire generations of people basically fighting themselves under a slightly different banner.

[Klutch]

Its certainly a gorgeous map. I love how different it is fighting near the river vs in the desert

[Black Hammer]

Before I started playing this game, I knew very little about these regions.

Now, I still know very little, but I can tell you for certain that Waset is populated entirely by asshats.

[Santiago]

No one cares. The game still sucks despite map size.

[Lor]

Map size isn't the issue it's the scope. Who cares if the map is giant if it only has 3 distinct cultures?

Imagine you're playing as Rome in Rome II, over time as you expand you fight Gauls, Carthaginians, Scythians, Germans, Iberians, Greeks, Thracians, Persians, etc etc. The map is varied and interesting, it's populated it feels like a full world.

The map may be huge in Pharaoh but who cares when it's so boring? What you're telling me is that basically I can take over half the map and still be fighting the exact same culture. In my Hittite campaign I got extremely bored of fighting Hittites, but EVERYONE around me for miles were Hittites.