Why Heroes though…

[Littlefatcat]

I was interested in this game until it dawned on me that there will be heroes again. So is this basically going to be another McDonalds total war like three kingdoms with even faster battles and more hud clutter?

[dulany67]

I kind of doubt you will ever again see a TW without heroes.

[Welsh Dragon]

引用自 Littlefatcat：

I was interested in this game until it dawned on me that there will be heroes again. So is this basically going to be another McDonalds total war like three kingdoms with even faster battles and more hud clutter?

Depends what you mean.

There's no sign of single entities or superpowers in what's been revealed so far, so I don't think it's going to be a 3k/Troy/Warhammer.

Yes they seem to be highlighting specific leaders more than the factions they lead (thus far.) But they've been building factions around specific people, off and on, since Rome 1's Alexander campaign, and "heroes" with special powers first appear in Medieval 2: Kingdoms Crusades campaign.

Basically what I'm saying is even if the game has "heroes" there's a lot of different ways to do them, so best to wait and see what more they reveal before deciding it's another 3k/Troy/Warhammer.

All the Best,

Welsh Dragon.

[Littlefatcat]

引用自 Welsh Dragon：

引用自 Littlefatcat：

I was interested in this game until it dawned on me that there will be heroes again. So is this basically going to be another McDonalds total war like three kingdoms with even faster battles and more hud clutter?

Depends what you mean.

There's no sign of single entities or superpowers in what's been revealed so far, so I don't think it's going to be a 3k/Troy/Warhammer.

Yes they seem to be highlighting specific leaders more than the factions they lead (thus far.) But they've been building factions around specific people, off and on, since Rome 1's Alexander campaign, and "heroes" with special powers first appear in Medieval 2: Kingdoms Crusades campaign.

Basically what I'm saying is even if the game has "heroes" there's a lot of different ways to do them, so best to wait and see what more they reveal before deciding it's another 3k/Troy/Warhammer.

All the Best,

Welsh Dragon.

I said McDonalds total war but maybe i should just say microtransactions total war. Even if there is no magic it will be like three kingdoms but we’ll see

[AdahnGorion]

引用自 dulany67：

I kind of doubt you will ever again see a TW without heroes.

I fear this as well. But that might mean some of us will venture to new pastures, unless its Warhammer (I don´t mind my fantasy being made like that) but for historical titles, there are just so many better alternatives.

[TheOrangeBox]

引用自 Littlefatcat：

I said McDonalds total war but maybe i should just say microtransactions total war. Even if there is no magic it will be like three kingdoms but we’ll see

Since when in Total War series DLCs have become micro transactions?
Or is this another non sensical keyboard blunders?

[Jerroser]

As far as we know, the game won't have the same kind single entity heroes found in WH, Troy or 3K. By the looks of it each general/character will come with a bodyguard unit in battle.

Although it does also seem that each faction will have a fixed special character as their leader, that can only be "wounded" in battle rather than outright killed. Likely using the justification that the campaign will take place during a very tight time frame lasting only a few years.

[Darth Revan]

引用自 Littlefatcat：

引用自 Welsh Dragon：

Depends what you mean.

There's no sign of single entities or superpowers in what's been revealed so far, so I don't think it's going to be a 3k/Troy/Warhammer.

Yes they seem to be highlighting specific leaders more than the factions they lead (thus far.) But they've been building factions around specific people, off and on, since Rome 1's Alexander campaign, and "heroes" with special powers first appear in Medieval 2: Kingdoms Crusades campaign.

Basically what I'm saying is even if the game has "heroes" there's a lot of different ways to do them, so best to wait and see what more they reveal before deciding it's another 3k/Troy/Warhammer.

All the Best,

Welsh Dragon.

I said McDonalds total war but maybe i should just say microtransactions total war. Even if there is no magic it will be like three kingdoms but we’ll see

Well, according to the pre order bonus skins there will be bodyguard units.

[Gerfreckle]

引用自 Jerroser：

As far as we know, the game won't have the same kind single entity heroes found in WH, Troy or 3K. By the looks of it each general/character will come with a bodyguard unit in battle.

Although it does also seem that each faction will have a fixed special character as their leader, that can only be "wounded" in battle rather than outright killed. Likely using the justification that the campaign will take place during a very tight time frame lasting only a few years.

I don't really mind this. My two favourite Total War games did this (Napoleon and Attila) and they're both thoroughly historically immersive experiences.

I sincerely hope that's all that CA will do with this game, and not go a step beyond.

[Dugan]

Heroes as a concept aren't that bad, for periods of mythology they can be well suited, but for historical there's no reason a hero/hero unit can't be dynamic, in a more historical game could be set up as a command post type thing (would work well in a napoleon type), remember they did something sort of like this in shogun 2, not as fleshed out though.

[Darth Revan]

Devs said in an interview published on the great book of grudges youtube channel that there are no single entity heroes in this game.

[Toaster Maximus]

引用自 Legatus Lucanus：

Devs said in an interview published on the great book of grudges youtube channel that there are no single entity heroes in this game.

A custom bodyguard will be more fun anyhow for rulers and such if I watched the videos right

[Toaster Maximus]

引用自 karoten2：

引用自 Legatus Lucanus：

Devs said in an interview published on the great book of grudges youtube channel that there are no single entity heroes in this game.

You can check the actuall battle preview, there are no single entity heroes

https://youtu.be/EtfKa_ToBmQ

Really is a good viid people need to wach it.

[Inardesco]

引用自 Littlefatcat：

引用自 Welsh Dragon：

Depends what you mean.

There's no sign of single entities or superpowers in what's been revealed so far, so I don't think it's going to be a 3k/Troy/Warhammer.

Yes they seem to be highlighting specific leaders more than the factions they lead (thus far.) But they've been building factions around specific people, off and on, since Rome 1's Alexander campaign, and "heroes" with special powers first appear in Medieval 2: Kingdoms Crusades campaign.

Basically what I'm saying is even if the game has "heroes" there's a lot of different ways to do them, so best to wait and see what more they reveal before deciding it's another 3k/Troy/Warhammer.

All the Best,

Welsh Dragon.

I said McDonalds total war but maybe i should just say microtransactions total war. Even if there is no magic it will be like three kingdoms but we’ll see

If you watch the first look it'll show you it is not like Three Kingdoms.

But for that you'd have to get off your high horse and actually consume their information.

[AdahnGorion]

引用自 karoten2：

引用自 Darkie：

I fear this as well. But that might mean some of us will venture to new pastures, unless its Warhammer (I don´t mind my fantasy being made like that) but for historical titles, there are just so many better alternatives.

Here is battle preview for Pharaoh

https://youtu.be/EtfKa_ToBmQ

This is actually good news and looks much better than Troy, I will give them that.
Still not interested in this on release, because of the current formula, but going back to bodyguards and limited leader abiilities (it is fine with inspire etc) might actually see older players be lured in.

I am happy that some of us was wrong about the singular hero take.

[Hexagoros]

引用自 Littlefatcat：

I was interested in this game until it dawned on me that there will be heroes again. So is this basically going to be another McDonalds total war like three kingdoms with even faster battles and more hud clutter?

Heroes are out. The generals and named characters now have proper bodyguard units.