Total War: PHARAOH

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No Longer A Demon Door 2023 年 5 月 23 日 下午 12:29
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Will the Hebrews be a Playable Faction?
I sincerely hope we get a Biblical-style Exodus DLC or even a conquest of Cannaan scenario with Joshua. As a longtime Creative Assembly fan I say this: it's time to stop erasing Jews and Israelites from History. There is zero excuse here.
引用自 Mr. Clean:
Absolutely second that, there are no excuses justifying their absence here, even from a completely academic perspective (yet again the BA collapse is a tricky period, we can only say so much from a period that literally was a Dark Age) assuming the developers want the game to be as factual as possible, the Proto-Israelites as a distinct group are identifiable since the LB II at the very least so roughly the 13th century BCE, if we choose to focus on the Shasu (whom Donald Redford ties to the Proto-Israelites) we can push this back to the 15th century BCE with relative ease (to say nothing of the Apiru/Habiru, though this is a more contentious topic).

I could go on like this of course, I think we are not alone in wishing for an Exodus-themed mode similar to the mythological one in Troy.
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No Longer A Demon Door 2024 年 2 月 8 日 上午 8:48 
引用自 Toblm
No... the topic is very avoidable since the Kingdoms of Israel and Judea are Iron Age occurrences.

Here we go again with the same old lie. It's like talking to a brick wall.
jonoliveira12 2024 年 2 月 8 日 上午 8:51 
引用自 thunder
引用自 jonoliveira12
None of them, except for Bay, were in Egypt.

, in several inscriptions with reference to Siptah, that it was he who established the king "on the throne of his father" without providing further details on how this came about.[5] Bay was also included in the cult of the mortuary temple of Siptah in Year 3 of the latter's reign.[6] During the same period the tomb of Queen Twosret, KV14 was also started, and built as part of a threesome with those of Siptah and Bay. The tombs of Bay and Twosret (2nd building phase) are smaller copies of the royal tomb.

in this text you can see that Bay did had a lot of power in egypt for a commoner, so he did had to have some ground to offer to egypt to become such high position
He was not a pharaoh, nor did he directly ruled anything, he was a minister.

In this game, he is a canaanite warlord straight up, which is far more fantastical than a Hebrew horde faction, lead by Joshua.
thunder 2024 年 2 月 8 日 上午 8:54 
引用自 jonoliveira12
引用自 thunder
factions within a kingdom of egypt
None of them, except for Bay, were in Egypt.

Year 5 III Shemu the 27th. On this day, the scribe of the tomb Paser came announcing 'Pharaoh LPH, has killed the great enemy Bay. (smꜣ Pr-ꜥꜣ ꜥ.w.s. ḫrw ꜥꜣ Bꜣy)[10]

this is a text that has been translated, and says year 5 has killed his enemy Bay, so what i see in that is that he has been in power for 5 years and in some way the pharao killed him as it was his enemy, so for being an enemy you need an army and land you took from egypt as an invading force, some pharao wanted this enemy close so it gave him a high place for a commoner but rose as a commoner really high, its a bit unclear if he ruled also or just being a chancellor.

so maybe they could add the israelites as an invading force or an uprising within egypt,

i would find it cool to see them rise from being slaves at a surten time in egypt and slowly take what they want.

i had that in empire total war where i played with the old frenchies and at a surten time in paris an uprising of the french we know today and i had a choice to make, or i stay with the monarchy or i stand with the rebels, i did chose the rebels lol, but they could do something like that maybe ;)
thunder 2024 年 2 月 8 日 上午 9:00 
引用自 jonoliveira12
引用自 thunder

, in several inscriptions with reference to Siptah, that it was he who established the king "on the throne of his father" without providing further details on how this came about.[5] Bay was also included in the cult of the mortuary temple of Siptah in Year 3 of the latter's reign.[6] During the same period the tomb of Queen Twosret, KV14 was also started, and built as part of a threesome with those of Siptah and Bay. The tombs of Bay and Twosret (2nd building phase) are smaller copies of the royal tomb.

in this text you can see that Bay did had a lot of power in egypt for a commoner, so he did had to have some ground to offer to egypt to become such high position
He was not a pharaoh, nor did he directly ruled anything, he was a minister.

In this game, he is a canaanite warlord straight up, which is far more fantastical than a Hebrew horde faction, lead by Joshua.
no he was never a pharao, but a chancellor who had a lot of power, so he must have had an army and land to make him an important enemy of egypt.

anyway, i like the game maybe n,ext DLC, uprising of the Israelites ;)
Mr. Clean 2024 年 2 月 8 日 上午 9:00 
引用自 thunder
but isaelites dint stay long in Jerusalem as the christian or the moslims kicked them out every time, now the israelites are more zionists and they hate everyone exept jews. dont think they deserve to be in the game as they kill many people and take their homes and lives away, so if i had to be just, no jews are not allowed in the game for the genocide they do today.

Willing to bet my right arm most of the devs back at CA agree with this.
jonoliveira12 2024 年 2 月 8 日 上午 9:02 
引用自 Mr. Clean
引用自 thunder
but isaelites dint stay long in Jerusalem as the christian or the moslims kicked them out every time, now the israelites are more zionists and they hate everyone exept jews. dont think they deserve to be in the game as they kill many people and take their homes and lives away, so if i had to be just, no jews are not allowed in the game for the genocide they do today.

Willing to bet my right arm most of the devs back at CA agree with this.
You probably should begin to learn how to write with your left hand.
No Longer A Demon Door 2024 年 2 月 8 日 上午 9:17 
引用自 jonoliveira12
You probably should begin to learn how to write with your left hand.

He wouldn't lose his arm. Having known the team at Horsham for quite a while, to say they're politically biased would be an understatement.
最後修改者:No Longer A Demon Door; 2024 年 2 月 8 日 下午 1:00
helloworld1890 2024 年 2 月 8 日 上午 9:54 
引用自 thunder
引用自 helloworld1890

That’s your politics getting in the way of a game that people want to play, relive and fantasize about this era.

I think I speak for most, to say no one wants to hear your politics especially about a game.

If politic culture ran games EMPIRE TOTAL WAR would be cancelled. (Roll eyes)

lol my politics? if it where to me there wouldn't be any politics, but others bring that up and yes politics has always been a total war thing, so yes its important to bring up politics into this because religion is politics, and if we where to speak about the exodus i dont believe in hocus pocus but the 7 plagues where human made, in the exodus, killing every first born of every egyptian family who also dint want this politics games into there lives but stil they sufferd, so even in that time they where killing children, how can you do this? or do you think that this is a normal way to do politics? because it where politics that brought war to egypt in that time, i know my history as it should be told so if what the tiopic asks, should they be in the game or not? i dont care but know your playing with people that are very hated in the world and in their way they hate us so why bring such a thing in a game? cant we just enjoy playing a game or do we always have to bring these things up the so called " historical injustements "! i dont mind politics but i have any right to bring up my politics and toughts about the subject. i dont ask you to like it, just to respect it if you would know about their history!

I literally read only one sentence of your gibberish….😒

Instead of debating what’s historical and what’s not. You’re on the wrong platform to debate about politics.

I wouldn’t be surprised if you get banned again cause at this point you’re straight up being obnoxious.
i-dot 2024 年 2 月 8 日 上午 11:37 
引用自 Blitzwing
Faction Leaders:

Moses with divine help
Solomon who has very good laws and edicts
David who has good stone slingers
Moses - seems to be dead before the game period
Solomon and David - will be born after four hundred years
only Joshua and Othniel are available
Blitzwing 2024 年 2 月 8 日 上午 11:46 
引用自 i-dot
引用自 Blitzwing
Faction Leaders:

Moses with divine help
Solomon who has very good laws and edicts
David who has good stone slingers
Moses - seems to be dead before the game period
Solomon and David - will be born after four hundred years
only Joshua and Othniel are available
why not make as faction leader Yahweh?
Sounds like a cool mechanic, to send out prophets and plagues.
A6M Zero 2024 年 2 月 8 日 下午 1:03 
引用自 jonoliveira12
You probably should begin to learn how to write with your left hand.

He wouldn't lose his arm. Having known the team at Horsham for quite a while, to say they're politically biased would be an understatement.

Ah yes, work closely with them do you?
No Longer A Demon Door 2024 年 2 月 8 日 下午 1:04 
引用自 A6M Zero
He wouldn't lose his arm. Having known the team at Horsham for quite a while, to say they're politically biased would be an understatement.

By all means, you can check my friends list.
A6M Zero 2024 年 2 月 8 日 下午 1:08 
引用自 A6M Zero
He wouldn't lose his arm. Having known the team at Horsham for quite a while, to say they're politically biased would be an understatement.

By all means, you can check my friends list.

1) Why would I waste my time checking your steam friends list, as if that would somehow verify that you personally know the political inclinations of CA's devs?

2) If you know them, why would you be ♥♥♥♥-talking them on a steam forum?

3) Does your dad work at Nintendo, too?
No Longer A Demon Door 2024 年 2 月 8 日 下午 6:27 
引用自 A6M Zero
1) Why would I waste my time checking your steam friends list, as if that would somehow verify that you personally know the political inclinations of CA's devs?

Because I'm not going to doxx myself over your latter-day scepticism.

引用自 A6M Zero
2) If you know them, why would you be ♥♥♥♥-talking them on a steam forum?

Because I disagree with them? Because I have a mind of my own?
You should try it sometimes.

引用自 A6M Zero
3) Does your dad work at Nintendo, too?

Yes, and he just hired your sister.
thunder 2024 年 2 月 8 日 下午 8:07 
引用自 helloworld1890
引用自 thunder

lol my politics? if it where to me there wouldn't be any politics, but others bring that up and yes politics has always been a total war thing, so yes its important to bring up politics into this because religion is politics, and if we where to speak about the exodus i dont believe in hocus pocus but the 7 plagues where human made, in the exodus, killing every first born of every egyptian family who also dint want this politics games into there lives but stil they sufferd, so even in that time they where killing children, how can you do this? or do you think that this is a normal way to do politics? because it where politics that brought war to egypt in that time, i know my history as it should be told so if what the tiopic asks, should they be in the game or not? i dont care but know your playing with people that are very hated in the world and in their way they hate us so why bring such a thing in a game? cant we just enjoy playing a game or do we always have to bring these things up the so called " historical injustements "! i dont mind politics but i have any right to bring up my politics and toughts about the subject. i dont ask you to like it, just to respect it if you would know about their history!

I literally read only one sentence of your gibberish….😒

Instead of debating what’s historical and what’s not. You’re on the wrong platform to debate about politics.

I wouldn’t be surprised if you get banned again cause at this point you’re straight up being obnoxious.
ah so do you thing war is without politics? or only the politics you like? then your a dictator!, gibberich? you dint even read what i say so its the last time i answer you as you are so blind!
i should get banned? so talking politics is for you not done? but your playing total war m8 and thats politics, or didn't you play empire total war? you know nothing abou this game and you have troubles with people being smarter then you , i know confronting yopurself is hard but really, try ot and you will see where you are wrong, politics is our way of life or don't you have politics in your life? maybe you just to young to understand what war and politics are walking togheter cuz politics bring war, but ofcourse because you dont know a thing about politics, no one should talk about? so telling the truth is not allowed in your world? i gues you all love lies!
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