Upgrade

[Mr. Nobody]

I feel like if we already have the original game on steam then we should be able to simply buy the upgrade to get retold. Kinda BS that as someone who’s had this game since the day it came out I’m supposed to spend more simply to use the same portraits I’ve been using for well over a decade.

[Eric]

Lol that's was my point but none understood

[Mr. Nobody]

Originally posted by Amph:

Lol that's was my point but none understood

You’ll always have those randoms that think having common sense is entitlement.

[Anthrak]

so you 2 basically want to get stuff for free

[Mr. Nobody]

Originally posted by Anthrak:

so you 2 basically want to get stuff for free

For free? I’ve already bought the game 3 times. Once when I was younger on disks then again on steam and then again for the extended edition. The fact you actually think it’s okay for them to be charging $50 to buy the game again is just wild and it really shows how low gaming is currently. You have people like yourself who dgaf about being screwed over by devs and will buy anything they throw at you.

[Mr. Nobody]

It’s also very obvious they’re using AI for the new portraits and who knows what else. My dad has been using chat gbt to help him write code for an app, wouldn’t surprise me if they’re doing the same thing. I’ve seen what AI can do and it can literally right paragraphs of coding.

[ChiefOfHonour]

So, "upgrade" doesn't mean upgrade from previous version? Then what is it an upgrade from? Is it simply a standard->extended upgrade?

[Mr. Nobody]

Originally posted by ChiefOfHonour:

So, "upgrade" doesn't mean upgrade from previous version? Then what is it an upgrade from? Is it simply a standard->extended upgrade?

It's just upgrading from the AoM Retold base game to premium edition. Literally paying extra just to use the old portraits and to get chinese DLC for free even though i've had it since it released.

[dna777and]

WTF is wrong with you people... A lot of work done with Retold, it plays and looks much better then original game. So pay for work they did or play outdated version of AoM that you already own and stop crying. Its like when you buying new phone you go to the shop and crying there?? no, you will buy a new iphone or stick to the old one if you dont think it worth money for such upgrade

[Mr. Nobody]

Originally posted by dna777and:

WTF is wrong with you people... A lot of work done with Retold, it plays and looks much better then original game. So pay for work they did or play outdated version of AoM that you already own and stop crying. Its like when you buying new phone you go to the shop and crying there?? no, you will buy a new iphone or stick to the old one if you dont think it worth money for such upgrade

No one’s crying bud. You’ll be okay

[-Dare Devil/x/]

Originally posted by Jake:

Originally posted by Anthrak:

so you 2 basically want to get stuff for free

For free? I’ve already bought the game 3 times. Once when I was younger on disks then again on steam and then again for the extended edition. The fact you actually think it’s okay for them to be charging $50 to buy the game again is just wild and it really shows how low gaming is currently. You have people like yourself who dgaf about being screwed over by devs and will buy anything they throw at you.

-I'm not sure I understand, or maybe we just have different perspectives and won't be able to ever see eye to eye, you aren't buying the same item.

-You can't even re-buy the same game on Steam because it tells you that you already own the game. I suppose you can create a new Steam account and rebuy the same Extended edition for you to "buy the game 2 times".

-If you bought a pair of shoes; or a movie; or a tshirt, etc... do you expect to get the new version of that item next year for free? 5 years from now? 10 years from now? What about a movie's uncut edition that get released later? If a company spent $100,000 to make a game in 2012. Then decided they wanted to invest another $500,000 in 2024 to develop it for today's standards, are you saying they should just do that for free? Would you PREFER it if there never was even a new release? I'm all for more possibilities/options for me to choose from. If the price is too high; I just don't buy it, but for the people that have a higher budget, good for them!

[grraf]

Its up to them to decide what the game gets priced at but up to use to decide if its worth that much...

I'm personally on the fence i can afford the price but will wait to see some post release reviews and relevant gameplay then decide... I know this isn't another one of Relic's hit&run release like Aoe IV was but as the old saying goes 'better safe then sorry' .

[Mr. Nobody]

Originally posted by -Dare Devil/x/:

Originally posted by Jake:

For free? I’ve already bought the game 3 times. Once when I was younger on disks then again on steam and then again for the extended edition. The fact you actually think it’s okay for them to be charging $50 to buy the game again is just wild and it really shows how low gaming is currently. You have people like yourself who dgaf about being screwed over by devs and will buy anything they throw at you.

-I'm not sure I understand, or maybe we just have different perspectives and won't be able to ever see eye to eye, you aren't buying the same item.

-You can't even re-buy the same game on Steam because it tells you that you already own the game. I suppose you can create a new Steam account and rebuy the same Extended edition for you to "buy the game 2 times".

-If you bought a pair of shoes; or a movie; or a tshirt, etc... do you expect to get the new version of that item next year for free? 5 years from now? 10 years from now? What about a movie's uncut edition that get released later? If a company spent $100,000 to make a game in 2012. Then decided they wanted to invest another $500,000 in 2024 to develop it for today's standards, are you saying they should just do that for free? Would you PREFER it if there never was even a new release? I'm all for more possibilities/options for me to choose from. If the price is too high; I just don't buy it, but for the people that have a higher budget, good for them!

It’s literally the exact same game with upgraded graphics and UI and reusable god powers. Nothing else was changed.

[SK]

Originally posted by Jake:

Originally posted by -Dare Devil/x/:

-I'm not sure I understand, or maybe we just have different perspectives and won't be able to ever see eye to eye, you aren't buying the same item.

-You can't even re-buy the same game on Steam because it tells you that you already own the game. I suppose you can create a new Steam account and rebuy the same Extended edition for you to "buy the game 2 times".

-If you bought a pair of shoes; or a movie; or a tshirt, etc... do you expect to get the new version of that item next year for free? 5 years from now? 10 years from now? What about a movie's uncut edition that get released later? If a company spent $100,000 to make a game in 2012. Then decided they wanted to invest another $500,000 in 2024 to develop it for today's standards, are you saying they should just do that for free? Would you PREFER it if there never was even a new release? I'm all for more possibilities/options for me to choose from. If the price is too high; I just don't buy it, but for the people that have a higher budget, good for them!

It’s literally the exact same game with upgraded graphics and UI and reusable god powers. Nothing else was changed.

Updated graphics is a pretty significant change. They had to remake every single model and texture.

But it's not the only change, there are a lot of balance changes.
The meta is very different from before if you care about competitive play.

And a lot of small functionality changes for example water works differently. Shallow water no longer blocks boats, which is likely a result of having a new engine.

Its also surprisingly less laggy than EE. The game has better graphics and runs better.

Which I don't know if that's just due to the new engine or if EE was insanely unoptimized.

Then there's the stuff like the Arena of the Gods mode, new editor triggers, new stats, and a cleaned up protox and techtree on the backend. It should also support additive modding like AoE3 DE.

[Mr. Nobody]

Originally posted by BadToast:

Originally posted by Jake:

It’s literally the exact same game with upgraded graphics and UI and reusable god powers. Nothing else was changed.

Updated graphics is a pretty significant change. They had to remake every single model and texture.

But it's not the only change, there are a lot of balance changes.
The meta is very different from before if you care about competitive play.

And a lot of small functionality changes for example water works differently. Shallow water no longer blocks boats, which is likely a result of having a new engine.

Its also surprisingly less laggy than EE. The game has better graphics and runs better.

Which I don't know if that's just due to the new engine or if EE was insanely unoptimized.

Then there's the stuff like the Arena of the Gods mode, new editor triggers, new stats, and a cleaned up protox and techtree on the backend. It should also support additive modding like AoE3 DE.

Doesn’t warrant the price simple as that. Especially for those who’ve had the game already over 20 years.

[Ronrussel]

Originally posted by Jake:

Originally posted by BadToast:

Updated graphics is a pretty significant change. They had to remake every single model and texture.

But it's not the only change, there are a lot of balance changes.
The meta is very different from before if you care about competitive play.

And a lot of small functionality changes for example water works differently. Shallow water no longer blocks boats, which is likely a result of having a new engine.

Its also surprisingly less laggy than EE. The game has better graphics and runs better.

Which I don't know if that's just due to the new engine or if EE was insanely unoptimized.

Then there's the stuff like the Arena of the Gods mode, new editor triggers, new stats, and a cleaned up protox and techtree on the backend. It should also support additive modding like AoE3 DE.

Doesn’t warrant the price simple as that. Especially for those who’ve had the game already over 20 years.

Lol, what? There are YEARS of work in this game. This isn't some "oh, we pushed the existing sprites into some AI upscaling and made it compatible with modern PCs" remaster like some publishers release it. This is a fully fleshed out AoM 2.0 with a roadmap with a lot content to come.

Owners of the original game + Tales of the dragon get 15% off btw.