Is the Chinese Pixiu better than the normal caravan?

[Duke H. Vytantis]

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[VorpalAura]

They buffed it last patch, and like it says, it gives food and wood along with gold. The question would be more like, is it worth it? I'd say it depends if you got spare favor to waste on it I suppose.

[Duke H. Vytantis]

i was like tf where did you read this information.
but your info is false, this is only AFTER researching AOA technology related to it.

question still stands, if it's better or not.

[Valkez]

It generates 25% more gold than normal caravans, and it can be upgraded to also generate food and wood together with gold.
Of course it's better, but it costs favor, so you've got to ponder if you can invest the favor in the economy or if you'd rather use it on myth units. I suppose it's a bit on the same line of kuafus, in that they're better than villies at most things but have that nasty favor cost attached.

[Lotor13]

Originally posted by Valkez:

It generates 25% more gold than normal caravans, and it can be upgraded to also generate food and wood together with gold.

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[Duke H. Vytantis]

Originally posted by Valkez:

It generates 25% more gold than normal caravans, and it can be upgraded to also generate food and wood together with gold.
Of course it's better, but it costs favor, so you've got to ponder if you can invest the favor in the economy or if you'd rather use it on myth units. I suppose it's a bit on the same line of kuafus, in that they're better than villies at most things but have that nasty favor cost attached.

you have a source for this? was this tested?

if that is true, how is this not broken vs other civs lol

[Valkez]

https://ageofempires.fandom.com/wiki/Pixiu_(Immortal_Pillars)?so=search

As for being broken, I don't see why that would be the case. It's more expensive and just as vulnerable as any other caravan (even more so against heroes) and Chinese's favor generation can be tricky. If you deny the Chinese any meaningful expansion, they will end up starved of favor, which makes any raid on their kuafus and caravan all the more painful. And if they boom, probably you're losing already, even without Pixius trading.

[Duke H. Vytantis]

Originally posted by Valkez:

https://ageofempires.fandom.com/wiki/Pixiu_(Immortal_Pillars)?so=search

As for being broken, I don't see why that would be the case. It's more expensive and just as vulnerable as any other caravan (even more so against heroes) and Chinese's favor generation can be tricky. If you deny the Chinese any meaningful expansion, they will end up starved of favor, which makes any raid on their kuafus and caravan all the more painful. And if they boom, probably you're losing already, even without Pixius trading.

that sounds like 1v1 or some sort of rushed scenario.

but the way i'm reading into it from the wiki page, longterm they are broken for teamgames.
pop is the most crucial resource in this game.
and they are 1:1 ratio with a normal caravan.
thus with the technologies, that's broken and not a lil bit either.

i'm curious where these wikipedia numbers are coming from tho, as i find no such thing ingame. but the ingame often has ♥♥♥♥ all information about certain things. another thing devs screwed up.

[DesertRose92]

You could try the more descriptive tooltips mods. Afaik it reads the game data files to generate more helpful tooltips.

[Duke H. Vytantis]

Originally posted by DesertRose92:

You could try the more descriptive tooltips mods. Afaik it reads the game data files to generate more helpful tooltips.

does that work in multiplayer? last year when i tried to play multiplayer while having the original voice mods still on, the game was blocking me to get online rofl.

[Senor Cardgage]

Originally posted by Duke H. Vytantis:

Originally posted by Valkez:

https://ageofempires.fandom.com/wiki/Pixiu_(Immortal_Pillars)?so=search

As for being broken, I don't see why that would be the case. It's more expensive and just as vulnerable as any other caravan (even more so against heroes) and Chinese's favor generation can be tricky. If you deny the Chinese any meaningful expansion, they will end up starved of favor, which makes any raid on their kuafus and caravan all the more painful. And if they boom, probably you're losing already, even without Pixius trading.

that sounds like 1v1 or some sort of rushed scenario.

but the way i'm reading into it from the wiki page, longterm they are broken for teamgames.
pop is the most crucial resource in this game.
and they are 1:1 ratio with a normal caravan.
thus with the technologies, that's broken and not a lil bit either.

i'm curious where these wikipedia numbers are coming from tho, as i find no such thing ingame. but the ingame often has ♥♥♥♥ all information about certain things. another thing devs screwed up.

That's.... dumb, I don't where people get off on this ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ board about accusing every element they see in the game of being broken or bad based on the filmiest logic possible.