next dlc?

[gameruldeserviciu]

Japan or India?Lot of deities in both...

[marc.scheffler96]

Aztec ore Amerikan spirits? it gives many Pantheons on the Earth an all can have a Place in Age of Mythology

[ChrisS3097]

I would love Japan but it's probably too similar to the Chinese so I guess Mayans or something else

[Doctor Pachochas]

AZTECS, INCAS OR MAYANS

[RitualistEssence]

Originally posted by Doctor Pachochas:

AZTECS, INCAS OR MAYANS

That or an older civ like Olmecs who were later replaced by the Aztecs.
I predict it'll be an African Civ that gets Djinns as myth units which would be pretty cool imo. If they do a year 2 DLC they could also add Persians and Indians.

[Lord of ice and fire]

Christianity.

[YouAreGod]

Aliens would be cool.

[Snemelc]

I would like the japanese. Simply because the chinese feel a bit isolated (Geographically).

[Cannonhands]

Russian

[Ωmega Quick]

Babilonia

[Rhalius]

Celts have my vote.

[James Arlwind]

Something Celtic could be awesome. Lots of Arthurian legend stuff to dive into.

[Zakalwe]

I'd love to see India in-game...all those arms and swords!! Could run into cultural sensitivity issues though, as Hinduism is a living, thriving religion, not one relegated to the realms of mythology.

[Catalytic]

I could see them going a number of directions here. I know of very few games that have explored the Indian mythology or prominently feature the subcontinent. Given the size of the potential market there (and the risk of offending it if they do it wrong), it's certainly a gamble, but not one much different than attempting to do justice to Chinese myth and legend.

I've always been fascinated with the Aztec and Maya since I was very young, so I would love to see one of those. Diablo 4 recently took a lot of inspiration from Aztec myth, and IMO, they did justice to the parts they took inspiration from. Of course, I have to mention the Aztecs from AoE3 here. That has been done and done reasonably well, IMO. Taking on the mythology would be a challenge.

I'm not familiar enough with Celtic mythology to comment on it, but if they could do it with the same care and love that went into the Norse, and not make it Norse-lite, that might be interesting.

I don't think Canaanite/Phoenician/Judeo-Christian is worth attempting. While I'm intrigued by the possibility of a monotheistic concept here, I'm not sure it properly fits with the structure that's already in place. In fact, as an afterthought, there might be a place to try that with Amon-Ra in the Egyptian mythology and have it fit in as a 4th god that's different enough to be interesting.

It's really important to remember here how important it is to have each mythology and each major god feel unique and interesting game play-wise. Ultimately, that is my biggest metric.

[Zakalwe]

Celtic is a bit too hazy in terms of a detailed pantheon. Native North America has loads of well defined deities though. I think they'd be great! Same goes for Polynesia and SE Asia. South America is the best bet though (strong, defined architecture, weird and wonderful creatures, very structured civilisation, religion now relegated to the realms of mythology etc).

[Thor II]

Originally posted by Catalytic:

I don't think Canaanite/Phoenician/Judeo-Christian is worth attempting. While I'm intrigued by the possibility of a monotheistic concept here, I'm not sure it properly fits with the structure that's already in place. In fact, as an afterthought, there might be a place to try that with Amon-Ra in the Egyptian mythology and have it fit in as a 4th god that's different enough to be interesting.

Originally posted by Thor II:

I can't do full tech three..... but I have some different ideas for the Romans.

Ps: The Romans are not my priority, but if they are going to come anyway, better do it right.

1 - Of course we could do the basics, what everyone expects. and anyone who has a modicum of sanity wants it not to happen. Jupiter, Mars and +1 major gods. Bellona, Juno, and some other gods Exclusive to Roman mythology mixed with Greek gods with Roman names. Aeneid, Romulus and Remus, Big wolves, Legions, lots of copies of what we already have in the Greeks and Atlanteans, etc., etc.

2 - Civic religion, the cult of emperors, were very important in Rome. Instead of traditional mythology, we could use this civic mythology so important in Rome. Julius Caesar, Octavius Augustus and +1 important emperor as major gods, less important emperors as minor gods. The heroes would be the most important Roman generals (a bit like Greek heroes, I know), the divine powers could be a buff for the troops or/and the economy, representing the abilities of on the battlefield and in the administration of these emperors, Julius Caesar, for example, could give the power to build a wall around some enemy construction (reference to the siege of Alesia). Mythical units could be Legions, Auxiliary Troops, Cavalry, etc. which historically achieved many feats and became famous, being much stronger than the normal versions (Reference to being veterans and the weight they carry for being in such a famous Legion). In other words, always trying to maintain the human theme, being a more realistic Civ. This is my favorite option.

3 - In this option, we can solve two problems at once, a Roman Civ and a Christian Civs. "But it's impossible, Christians are monotheistic", no, it's not impossible. We could have Father (God), Son (Jesus )and Holy Spirit as the three Major gods, Or Jesus, Mary and Joseph, or the Archangels Michael, Gabriel and Lucifer (or Raphael if you want to be less controversial), of lesser gods we can have angels or saints ( and they could all date back to the Roman period), or angels can be the lesser gods and the saints the heroes. Anyway, there are several options here. With this resolved, divine powers and Mythic units would not be a problem.

4 - Ultimately, the Romans could be to AOM what the US is to AOE III. Historically, the Romans adopted gods from several pantheons, then we would have Jupiter, Mars and +1 major gods, Bellona, Janus and other gods exclusive to the Romans as minor gods + Minor gods from different pantheons that were adopted by the Romans, such as Isis (as a minor goddess) and Mithra, represented in the Roman way, that is, an Isis, a Dionysus different from the Original. The main difference between this and first option is that first option is a blatant copy of the in game Greeks and Atlanteans, this option is a copy based historically on the way the Romans themselves appropriated of the gods of the conquered peoples. In practice, this brings versatility and makes it seem less like a copy.

Originally posted by Thor II:

The problem is that it is quite possible, completely possible, and knowing the Devs' history of bad decisions, the danger lies precisely there, and when we least expect it, not only do we end up receiving what no one asked for, we also receive it badly done.

The “Monotheism” factor is easily resolved, just make a slight change of terms when words like God, Gods, Deities, among others, appear.

“But they’re monotheists, it doesn’t work.” Yes, unfortunately it works:

Holy Trinity: Father, Son and Holy Spirit.

Holy Family: Jesus Mary and Joseph.

Michael, Gabriel and Raphael (or Lucifer). Archangels as greater gods and other angels with minor gods , receiving a name other than “gods” of course and always referring to “God” itself.

Saints as major and minor gods. And it would be possible to make an entire pantheon with saints from any era you can imagine, Pre-Christians (Patriarcas, Noé, Etc), Early Christian, Roman Period, Medieval.

A mixture of these elements is also possible. Angels as greater and lesser "Gods" and saints as heroes, among other combinations. For me, Archangels or Saints are the best options.

Mythic units would hardly be a problem. As human units we could have Israelites, Romans and yes, Medieval Christians. I've said it before and I'll say it again, as long as they don't have firearms, everything else about the time in which they lived is irrelevant.

Anyway, given the history of AOE II and III, yes it is completely possible and what we cannot do is remain silent, believing that it is impossible and when we least expect it we will receive a Civ with Santa Claus, Easter Bunny and Saint Patrick as greater gods. Denying the danger will not stop it.

Ideas for solving the problem of Christianity and the Roman problem, perhaps solving both at once.

I understood that you wanted an Amon-ra monotheistic? I think you are mistaken, Aton was the only monotheistic god of Egypt, after him there was Zoroastrianism in Persia, but Amon-ra, however powerful his priests were, was not a monotheistic god.

I'm ready for a tragedy like the one described above, but I prefer something more traditional like Mayan/Aztec, Inca, Hindu, Japanese, Slavic, Polynesian, Celtic, Yorubá, Bantu, Babylonian/Sumerian. It is not in any particular order.

Ps: Celtic mythology has nothing to do with the legends of King Arthur.