Age of Mythology: Retold

Age of Mythology: Retold

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Armilus Jun 17, 2024 @ 12:06pm
Okeanos in the trailer
Okay, so there was the trailer, where a bunch of gods where shown at the end. And for a short moment, there's Okeanos. Or at the very least, a god who looks just like him.
All the other gods in the lineup are major gods. Okeanos is a minor god.

Any idea of what that could mean?
Technically, Okeanos would make sense as major god. He's the ocean as Uranos is the sky and Gaia is the earth. It's even said somewhere that after Kronos castr@ted and dethroned his father, Gaia split from Uranos (the sky) to get together with the sea. And as an ocean god, he'd be the closest match to Poseidon within a titanic pantheon.
In the original, he is a minor god. Uranos is the major god.
Are they changing that? Do they replace Uranos with Okeanos?
Or am I simply overthinking this, and they just added him into the trailer randomly for no reason at all? Or does that only look like Okeanos, and it's in reality the new art for Uranos, but we didn't get to see him properly?
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Grim T Reaper Jun 17, 2024 @ 5:39pm 
You mean Oceanus? He's a minor god in the atlantean tech-tree,tThey aren't going to replace Oranos with someone else, the entire first part of the atlantean campaign focuses on him and his sky passages,

The 'flip through' of the gods at the end is so quick it's impossible to tell them all, but Oceanus is definitely in there.
Armilus Jun 17, 2024 @ 11:32pm 
Originally posted by Grim T Reaper:
You mean Oceanus? He's a minor god in the atlantean tech-tree,tThey aren't going to replace Oranos with someone else, the entire first part of the atlantean campaign focuses on him and his sky passages,

The 'flip through' of the gods at the end is so quick it's impossible to tell them all, but Oceanus is definitely in there.

Yes.
I could identify every god at the flip through. All of them major gods, except for Oceanus.
Why put one random minor god in there? Am I the only one wondering what the meaning of this is?
Dgo Jun 18, 2024 @ 1:34am 
I noticed that too. He really seems like Oceanus but he's a minor god. So he can't be one of the heads of his pantheon.
I'm still very anxious to see how they designed Hades. The old avatar was so perfect with the dark hair and facial hair in contrast with his brothers that had white hair. Hope they don't ruin it.
Armilus Jun 18, 2024 @ 8:13am 
Originally posted by Dgo:
I noticed that too. He really seems like Oceanus but he's a minor god. So he can't be one of the heads of his pantheon.
I'm still very anxious to see how they designed Hades. The old avatar was so perfect with the dark hair and facial hair in contrast with his brothers that had white hair. Hope they don't ruin it.

In actual mythology, Oceanus was considered a big deal. Like, his power was compared to that of Zeus, and some scriptures place him above Uranos in the hierarchy.
Making Oceanus a minor god is something that didn't make much sense in the original, but they did it anyway.
I'm not saying he's going to get elevated to major god status, I don't know how much sense it would make, outside of mythology wise. But why would they put him in the lineup of gods, that are otherwise all major gods, and not even all the major gods. Set and Hades are missing. We saw Set on the poster, but Hades not yet. Nor Uranos. I'd like to know how Uranos looks like now, after they changed Gaia so much.

On the topic of Hades, I don't know why he's getting so much ♥♥♥♥ from pop culture, being forced into a villain role so much. In actual mythology, he's actually one of the chillest dudes among the greek gods, and a far cry from the evil-dude Hollywood so loves to portray him as... Makes me feel bad for not playing Hades more.
jonoliveira12 Jun 18, 2024 @ 8:37am 
Oceanus is a huge option for Classical Age, since he is the only Minor God that gives Atlanteans some Infantry buffs. It would make no sense for him to be both a Minor and A Major, and there are better options for a 4th Major, that do not just make Atlanteans have a Poseidon clone, and justify the argument that they are just Greeks 2.
Armilus Jun 18, 2024 @ 8:59am 
Originally posted by jonoliveira12:
Oceanus is a huge option for Classical Age, since he is the only Minor God that gives Atlanteans some Infantry buffs. It would make no sense for him to be both a Minor and A Major, and there are better options for a 4th Major, that do not just make Atlanteans have a Poseidon clone, and justify the argument that they are just Greeks 2.

I don't doubt that. But someone at Microsoft deemed Oceanus important enough to be included in a trailer lineup of gods. I might be overthinking this, I'm not ruling that out.
What sense does it make to just have him in that lineup if nothing is happening to him at all, besides a new portrait? If something is happening, what is it?
jonoliveira12 Jun 18, 2024 @ 9:03am 
Trailer probably was done months ago, and they included the only Atlantean god they had ready?

Could be any number of things.
Grim T Reaper Jun 18, 2024 @ 9:06am 
The only way they could make Oceanus a major god would be to give the atlanteans a fourth option besides the original 3. Replacing Oranos would require redesigning much of the atlantean campaign, as i said, half of it is spent following Oranos. To say nothing of the bonuses he gives.

As for Hades, I always liked his Justice League depiction, both of them really.
jonoliveira12 Jun 18, 2024 @ 9:13am 
Justice League Hades was evil, actual Hades was not. I would actually love it if american media stopped destroying european cultures and religions, with their weird, protestant-guilt takes on it.
Diluvian Jun 18, 2024 @ 9:19am 
Originally posted by Armilus:
On the topic of Hades, I don't know why he's getting so much ♥♥♥♥ from pop culture, being forced into a villain role so much. In actual mythology, he's actually one of the chillest dudes among the greek gods, and a far cry from the evil-dude Hollywood so loves to portray him as... Makes me feel bad for not playing Hades more.

Probably came about with people associating the underworld of Greek Mythology with the Judeo-Christian Hell, despite being completely different things, and thus leading to Hades being represented as a parallel to Satan in popular media. i.e., Disney’s Hercules and its very popular, yet inaccurate, portrayal of Hades (and Greek mythology as a whole, for that matter). Though I feel like the role of “Greek Mythology’s Big Bad” in pop culture has skewed more towards Ares in the last decade.
Armilus Jun 18, 2024 @ 9:22am 
Originally posted by jonoliveira12:
Trailer probably was done months ago, and they included the only Atlantean god they had ready?

Could be any number of things.

The Lineup had Gaia too. But you're right, that could be it. It just makes me wonder why there's only this one minor god, and everyone else in the lineup is a major god. (Unless I mistook Horus for Ra, but I don't think so)
jonoliveira12 Jun 18, 2024 @ 9:24am 
Ares is closer to Big Bad in actual Greek mythology, to be fair. He was deeply violent, lustful, mocking and brutal.

Zeus would unironically be the closest to an actual villain, though, followed closely by Poseidon.
Grim T Reaper Jun 18, 2024 @ 9:28am 
Originally posted by jonoliveira12:
Justice League Hades was evil, actual Hades was not. I would actually love it if american media stopped destroying european cultures and religions, with their weird, protestant-guilt takes on it.

Recently watched Blood of Zeus, and quite enjoyed it, Zeus's depiction as an a**hole is fairly accurate, Posiedon honestly seems the most decent out of all of them, though i did like Hade's arc, and his motives.

Though imo, Aphrodite was wearing too much :P
jonoliveira12 Jun 18, 2024 @ 9:34am 
Originally posted by Grim T Reaper:
Originally posted by jonoliveira12:
Justice League Hades was evil, actual Hades was not. I would actually love it if american media stopped destroying european cultures and religions, with their weird, protestant-guilt takes on it.

Recently watched Blood of Zeus, and quite enjoyed it, Zeus's depiction as an a**hole is fairly accurate, Posiedon honestly seems the most decent out of all of them, though i did like Hade's arc, and his motives.

Though imo, Aphrodite was wearing too much :P
Blood of Zeus bothers me only because of the character Seraphim. Seraphim is not a greek concept.
Armilus Jun 18, 2024 @ 9:40am 
I watched the new Percy Jackson series. Besides being confused about how some of the stuff doesn't fully add up or feels like randomly thrown in, and how so many of those characters are meant to be close relatives, yet don't even look like they're from the same continent, because of "modern" casting choices, I actually liked it in general. The actors did a good job, and the writers seem to actually know a thing or two about mythology.
Not going as far to declare myself a fan, I also won't just bash it. The series has its pros and cons. And unlike the movies, it didn't portray hades as a villain, which is a huge plus for me.
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