Aggressive anticheat

[johansson_samuel]

I am never going to play multiplayer but not being able to even start the game because i have a trainer program open is kind of weird.
It isnt even connecting with the game it is just open because of other singleplayer games i play with cheats.

[mofocro]

Originally posted by Wintermute:

Originally posted by Tazor:

Reading through these comments. We are absolutely ♥♥♥♥♥♥ as a gaming community if this is the general consensus.

1. No anti cheat can fully stop cheaters. Best way to do it is manually by an admin.
2. Where does the line between cheat and mod become blurred? What if I want to increase the model size, change unit cap, make certain units move or attack faster? By not allowing "cheats" you are not allowing mods.
3. Why do you care if someone cheats in singleplayer? WHAT THE ♥♥♥♥???

These have to be comments from zoomers right? People who never experienced the golden era of PC gaming from around 1993 to 2007.

There are official cheats and mods for the game. Go, use them, summon a canadian laser bear.

The only reason to run Cheat Engine or any kind of trainer in this game is for cheating in MP. So anticheat seems to work exactly as intended.

I wish I could be this stupid. Would make life easy

[Waajon]

Trainers allow you to make smaller tweaks than the “in game cheat codes”. It’s literally just for fun. All of the remade Age of Empires allows trainers offline. I don’t see why everyone’s saying “oH dOnT cHeAt”. Let people play their single player games how they want. It doesn’t affect you. It legitimately doesn’t make sense to have an aggressive anticheat on this. If you want to start up multiplayer, sure. Have it shut down the game and error code you, but it wasn’t an issue for any of Microsoft’s other RTS remakes. There’s no argument to be made here.

[Stealthkibbler]

Originally posted by Wintermute:

Originally posted by Tazor:

Reading through these comments. We are absolutely ♥♥♥♥♥♥ as a gaming community if this is the general consensus.

1. No anti cheat can fully stop cheaters. Best way to do it is manually by an admin.
2. Where does the line between cheat and mod become blurred? What if I want to increase the model size, change unit cap, make certain units move or attack faster? By not allowing "cheats" you are not allowing mods.
3. Why do you care if someone cheats in singleplayer? WHAT THE ♥♥♥♥???

These have to be comments from zoomers right? People who never experienced the golden era of PC gaming from around 1993 to 2007.

There are official cheats and mods for the game. Go, use them, summon a canadian laser bear.

The only reason to run Cheat Engine or any kind of trainer in this game is for cheating in MP. So anticheat seems to work exactly as intended.

I think you missed the point OP is trying to make. these are official cheats curated by the developers. I have a brother who has the same sentiment as OP, he loved playing all the men at war games with a trainer so he could setup the most ridiculous battles. The reason people prefer trainers over curated cheats for SP is it gives them control over their game experience instead of relying on the devs, canadian laser bear is cool but it becomes novel after the first few times, being able to fiddle with your experience down to individual values is an experience that cant be achieved with 'cheat codes' I remember when halo forge was every kids wet dream back in the day because of the ability to craft your own experience and its a shame PC is erring in the direction of restriction and reduced modding capability.

Its understandable to want to protect the competitive scene from cheats but anticheat and cheating is an endless arms race between scripters who sell their services and how much the company wants to keep battling the cheats.

During the peak of SCII Blizzard had a whole ass team dedicated to just countering cheaters, even then they only came out ontop of the most prolific cheats.

[Roids]

In 20 years i never cheated in Multiplayer and these are the games i play the most, if I get tired of it i play some Singleplayer games like RTS/RPG and i always cheat. Or better to say use Trainer/Mods to play like i love, in RTS its with Infinite Pop etc.. Not buying this game, even when i wanted, if devs think they can Scan my PC and tell me how to play. It goes way to far and just hurts normal players, Cheaters who wanna cheat in MP still find a way or whatever. Same with AOE2 and their stupid anticheat in Singleplayer they patched a year ago.

[Roids]

Ahh Multiplayer games are PVP focused games like DAOC,SWTOR,Warhammer Online

[Kronus]

Originally posted by SelectaTile:

i have the same problem with wemod :(
dont have it open but still cant open the game.

I call ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ on that. I have Wemod myself for another game and without opening it the game opens just fine.

[Vudash]

Better! we dont want cheaters here. bye

[MSoni-Sama]

Originally posted by Kronus:

Originally posted by SelectaTile:

i have the same problem with wemod :(
dont have it open but still cant open the game.

I call ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ on that. I have Wemod myself for another game and without opening it the game opens just fine.

I call ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ on your ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥, it will crash the moment you turn the game on saying wemod or wemod related apps are open, even if it is just running the overlay in the background.

[Kimochi]

Because a LOT of people aggressively cheat. This is good for the health of the game

[Death]

Originally posted by MSoni-Sama:

Originally posted by Kronus:

I call ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ on that. I have Wemod myself for another game and without opening it the game opens just fine.

I call ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ on your ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥, it will crash the moment you turn the game on saying wemod or wemod related apps are open, even if it is just running the overlay in the background.

No, they are correct. Close wemod entirely and the game launches just fine.

[Eaglemut]

Originally posted by Waajon:

All of the remade Age of Empires allows trainers offline. [...] If you want to start up multiplayer, sure. Have it shut down the game and error code you, but it wasn’t an issue for any of Microsoft’s other RTS remakes. There’s no argument to be made here.

This is simply not true; anti-cheat protection works exactly the same way in AoE3:DE.

[Kronus]

Originally posted by MSoni-Sama:

Originally posted by Kronus:

I call ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ on that. I have Wemod myself for another game and without opening it the game opens just fine.

I call ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ on your ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥, it will crash the moment you turn the game on saying wemod or wemod related apps are open, even if it is just running the overlay in the background.

Ah so in other words you still run it. There is a difference between running in overlay and not running wemod entirely.

[Mokkori]

Aggressive against cheaters?... Good :)

[ramboing]

For single player, any kind of cheating should be fine, but any kind of cheating entirely ruins multiplayer. Anything they can do to shut down multiplayer cheating is good, as long as modding is still good enough to customize factions and such to your fancy when playing single player or custom maps.

[Aaronnum I]

Originally posted by Jazzratoon:

Originally posted by Aaronnum I:

Even for singleplayer? You do know that not many people are THAT interested in playing multiplayer right?

Besides, if I'm spending some hard-earned cash in a game, I'm sure I should be able to do what I dadgum want with it.

The game has in-built cheats where you can summon UFOs, why would need extra cheat engines?

Using the cheats deactivates the option of earning the achievements. And yes, sometimes, if I have the chance to do so, I like to collect my achievements regardless of the methods for doing so. Sometimes you can do it the normal way, by grinding through it, and sometimes, just for time saving sake, you do use third-party programs such as WeMod or Cheat Engine to do so without relying on the in-game cheats.

And once again, I insist: I paid for the game, I should be able to do with it whatever I want.