we need a "no wonders" game option

[steelwork]

just like the "no titan" game option.

[H11DN-D4NG3R]

(Incase people dont know, Wonders give big buffs to myth units, and reduce all god powers cooldowns and costs, also allows you to make more titans every 10 minutes, also +1 favor income)

While it would be something, if you let your enemy complete a wonder you are likely already behind, and if not you just didnt try enough to stop its construction

[jonoliveira12]

The game even tells you when the enemy starts and finishes a Wonder. If the enemy was able to amass 15k resources without you just rolling over him/her, then you deserve to lose to taht Wonder Age.

The whole purpose of a Wonder Age is that the one that reaches it, wins by brute force afterwards. You are essentially on a timer anyways, at that point.

[Dustreaper]

I feel like this is the same as certain experimentals in supreme commander. 1 gives infinite resources but take a lot of resources a other can decimate the map from range. The point is they are expensive and if you let your opponent build them you deserve to lose they are there as stalemate breakers or for fun if your opponent doesn't scout or pay attention.

[jonoliveira12]

Originally posted by Dustreaper:

I feel like this is the same as certain experimentals in supreme commander. 1 gives infinite resources but take a lot of resources a other can decimate the map from range. The point is they are expensive and if you let your opponent build them you deserve to lose they are there as stalemate breakers or for fun if your opponent doesn't scout or pay attention.

They literally take so many resources and Vill time to build, you literally need the opponent to AFK for half an hour to get Wonder Age. At that point, the other guy DESERVES to lose!

You must actually not get attacked with enough strength that you need to replace units, to even get a Wonder.

[Dustreaper]

Originally posted by jonoliveira12:

Originally posted by Dustreaper:

I feel like this is the same as certain experimentals in supreme commander. 1 gives infinite resources but take a lot of resources a other can decimate the map from range. The point is they are expensive and if you let your opponent build them you deserve to lose they are there as stalemate breakers or for fun if your opponent doesn't scout or pay attention.

They literally take so many resources and Vill time to build, you literally need the opponent to AFK for half an hour to get Wonder Age. At that point, the other guy DESERVES to lose!

You must actually not get attacked with enough strength that you need to replace units, to even get a Wonder.

Yea that is my point.

[PurSpyk!!]

Give an option so the game plays like the original, where using a God Power was a tactical choice, now its basically all about who has the most resources. A Titan used to be special, now having a few per player loses the uniqueness.

[Mokkori]

I got the game refunded so I can't check for myself but the option exists, choose conquest instead of supremacy, if I remember correctly, and if they haven't changed that.

[PurSpyk!!]

Originally posted by Mokkori:

I got the game refunded so I can't check for myself but the option exists, choose conquest instead of supremacy, if I remember correctly, and if they haven't changed that.

Tried Conquest doesn't seem any different

[Dean]

Its funny how many people troll discussions. The guy asked for a option to turn off wonders. You guys join and talk how good you are. Wonders break the game. Let people choose. "no scrub!! get good!!" nerds

[soldier6661111]

Originally posted by Dean:

Its funny how many people troll discussions. The guy asked for a option to turn off wonders. You guys join and talk how good you are. Wonders break the game. Let people choose. "no scrub!! get good!!" nerds

If a wonder is even an option for your opponent, you already lost...that's the whole point lmao. Read please...or learn to.

Oh you're an internet troll lol.

[Arimanius]

Originally posted by Dean:

Its funny how many people troll discussions. The guy asked for a option to turn off wonders. You guys join and talk how good you are. Wonders break the game. Let people choose. "no scrub!! get good!!" nerds

If wonders do break the game they simply need to be balanced out.

[LordMango]

While I like wonders, I agree that more options for various game conditions is always good. In the old Age of Empires, you could toggle whether or not to allow a Wonder victory. In that game, building a Wonder started an actual victory timer. I like this approach better. Not a literal victory timer, but nonetheless a likely game-winning condition if not stopped.

Interestingly, they are so expensive that I've won games where an enemy has created a Wonder because they spent so many resources on it that they didn't have the military to properly defend it. Choosing to build one, should the game last long enough for it to be an option, is a calculated move that isn't always beneficial. Especially if multiple opponents are still in the game. I find it an interesting and fun element, but game options are always a good thing.

[Thanathos]

Originally posted by PurSpyk!!:

Give an option so the game plays like the original, where using a God Power was a tactical choice, now its basically all about who has the most resources. A Titan used to be special, now having a few per player loses the uniqueness.

I'm more brutal, I play against the AI with infinite resources, it's a blood bath right after.

They cheat on skirmish for sure. Even if everyone is set at 0%, the AI by default is already ahead at 30%, meaning they will be faster at you at building anything.

At that rate I use my god powers to destroy wonders because yes, myth units and fimbulwinters go on hardcore right after.

[Deihnyx]

Originally posted by soldier6661111:

Originally posted by Dean:

Its funny how many people troll discussions. The guy asked for a option to turn off wonders. You guys join and talk how good you are. Wonders break the game. Let people choose. "no scrub!! get good!!" nerds

If a wonder is even an option for your opponent, you already lost...that's the whole point lmao. Read please...or learn to.

Oh you're an internet troll lol.

It's not trolling.

I play exclusively coop with friends against AI and we've come back from extreme+ AI making wonders, so no, that's not true for all cases.
You may play differently but that's the beauty of it, we can all play different ways and have fun.

And they're absolutely right. OP is just asking for an option to disable something, not whether their strategy is best or whatever.

[soldier6661111]

Originally posted by Deihnyx:

Originally posted by soldier6661111:

If a wonder is even an option for your opponent, you already lost...that's the whole point lmao. Read please...or learn to.

Oh you're an internet troll lol.

It's not trolling.

I play exclusively coop with friends against AI and we've come back from extreme+ AI making wonders, so no, that's not true for all cases.
You may play differently but that's the beauty of it, we can all play different ways and have fun.

And they're absolutely right. OP is just asking for an option to disable something, not whether their strategy is best or whatever.

He was in fact trolling.