ROMAN MYTHOLOGY -> Elephant in the Room

[Lord Haart]

Hi all,

So far I would say the obvious omission is Roman mythology.

Roman mythology offers a vast and intricate pantheon, filled with gods, heroes, and legendary creatures that could bring fresh dynamics to the game. Imagine commanding the likes of Jupiter, Mars, and Neptune, each with unique powers and myth units, adding depth and variety to gameplay.

The Romans have left an indelible mark on history, influencing countless aspects of modern civilization. Their myths and legends are no exception, providing a treasure trove of stories and characters that could enrich the narrative and strategic elements.

Begs DLC.

I'd be very interested to hear what you think.

[parent child bowl]

Originally posted by Kenvert:

You want Roman mythology, aka gods of Greek mythology with different names? lol

There are enough gods left for a roman pantheon and there are quite a few differences between the pantheons. E.g. while Mars and Ares are counterparts, they aren't exactly the same.

[GrechHerald]

Originally posted by jonoliveira12:

Originally posted by David McMurdo:

Here's hoping for India next.

Hindus, Mesopotamians and Celts would be amazing pantheons to add.

aztecs and other mesoamerican ones too would be incredible to have

[Fedaykin]

I prefer Mesopotamian Mythology.

[Thor II]

Originally posted by Thor II:

I can't do full tech three..... but I have some different ideas for the Romans.

Ps: The Romans are not my priority, but if they are going to come anyway, better do it right.

1 - Of course we could do the basics, what everyone expects. and anyone who has a modicum of sanity wants it not to happen. Jupiter, Mars and +1 major gods. Bellona, Juno, and some other gods Exclusive to Roman mythology mixed with Greek gods with Roman names. Aeneid, Romulus and Remus, Big wolves, Legions, lots of copies of what we already have in the Greeks and Atlanteans, etc., etc.

2 - Civic religion, the cult of emperors, were very important in Rome. Instead of traditional mythology, we could use this civic mythology so important in Rome. Julius Caesar, Octavius Augustus and +1 important emperor as major gods, less important emperors as minor gods. The heroes would be the most important Roman generals (a bit like Greek heroes, I know), the divine powers could be a buff for the troops or/and the economy, representing the abilities of on the battlefield and in the administration of these emperors, Julius Caesar, for example, could give the power to build a wall around some enemy construction (reference to the siege of Alesia). Mythical units could be Legions, Auxiliary Troops, Cavalry, etc. which historically achieved many feats and became famous, being much stronger than the normal versions (Reference to being veterans and the weight they carry for being in such a famous Legion). In other words, always trying to maintain the human theme, being a more realistic Civ. This is my favorite option.

3 - In this option, we can solve two problems at once, a Roman Civ and a Christian Civs. "But it's impossible, Christians are monotheistic", no, it's not impossible. We could have Father (God), Son (Jesus )and Holy Spirit as the three Major gods, Or Jesus, Mary and Joseph, or the Archangels Michael, Gabriel and Lucifer (or Raphael if you want to be less controversial), of lesser gods we can have angels or saints ( and they could all date back to the Roman period), or angels can be the lesser gods and the saints the heroes. Anyway, there are several options here. With this resolved, divine powers and Mythic units would not be a problem.

4 - Ultimately, the Romans could be to AOM what the US is to AOE III. Historically, the Romans adopted gods from several pantheons, then we would have Jupiter, Mars and +1 major gods, Bellona, Janus and other gods exclusive to the Romans as minor gods + Minor gods from different pantheons that were adopted by the Romans, such as Isis (as a minor goddess) and Mithra, represented in the Roman way, that is, an Isis, a Dionysus different from the Original. The main difference between this and first option is that first option is a blatant copy of the in game Greeks and Atlanteans, this option is a copy based historically on the way the Romans themselves appropriated of the gods of the conquered peoples. In practice, this brings versatility and makes it seem less like a copy.

Originally posted by jonoliveira12:

Atlanteans already have all the Roman units, and teh Carthaginian navy. There is no point to either of those civs.

Originally posted by -sb- zveroboy:

The Atlanteans already have the Roman aesthetic, and half of Roman mythology is essentially Greek mythology that's been rebadged and expanded on.

Originally posted by Thor II:

I never understood why the Atlanteans covered all the Roman Themes. The only Roman thing that the Atlanteans have, in my opinion, is the Gladiators.

Emperors? No. Civic Religion? No. Legions? No. Tower Shield + Gladius+ Pilum + Lorica Sgmentata? No. Jupiter and Mars as major gods? No. Exclusively Roman gods? No. Roman Architecture? No.

What exactly would these "actual themes" be?

You're basically saying "The Atlanteans have Llamas, an Inca element, so the Incas are already very well represented, it's impossible to add them to the game". Same thing.

[Lotor13]

Originally posted by Lord Haart:

Hi all,

So far I would say the obvious omission is Roman mythology.

Roman mythology offers a vast and intricate pantheon, filled with gods, heroes, and legendary creatures that could bring fresh dynamics to the game.

Roman pantheon is more or less just renamed Greek pantheon. Poseidon -) Neptun, Ares -} Mars etc

[i know kung fu]

Put in Jesus and Muhammed

[Lotor13]

There are so much better options,

Certainly Romans would bring nothing new to the game..

There could be Slavs, Aztecs, Celts, Indians..

[Lokaror]

Greeks for dinner again?

[Lord Haart]

Owzabout Skortlund.

Ey you pal ? Pine ta lager and a packet or cheese un onion cresps.

[Alexandre]

Originally posted by David McMurdo:

Here's hoping for India next.

No, we don't need more woke crap

[Tanagram]

This has to be a troll

Greece and Rome share the same pantheon, its just different names...

China, then hopefully India or Mesoamerica

[Lord Haart]

Originally posted by Alexandre:

Originally posted by David McMurdo:

Here's hoping for India next.

No, we don't need more woke crap

^^

[Alexandre]

Originally posted by Lotor13:

There are so much better options,

Certainly Romans would bring nothing new to the game..

There could be Slavs, Aztecs, Celts, Indians..

Celts: ok
Aztecs, Indians and especially slavs, A HARD "NO". We don't want woke communist crap

[Lord Haart]

M A Y A N or I N C A

[jonoliveira12]

Originally posted by kissblade:

Atlanteans are supposed to be Romans. In fact Kronos being a manipulating force behind Atlanteans is a nod to Roman mythology not reviling Saturn and Titans as much as the Greek mythology does.

Also wouldn't it very strange to have Romans have Jupiter and Greeks with Zeus? Cue the two spiderman meme?

Yes, and there are MANY MORE nods to Atlanteans being the standin for Romans in this game.

In fact, their Retold unit skins are LITEWRALLY as Roman as possible, as a sign the devs do not want to make a Romans civ ever.