Tips for building walls and towers

[ShadowFox]

Anyone have a good guide for defense in retold?

[Merethys]

Build more infantry.

Buildings have been nerfed into the ground in Retold. Not worth the ressources. Just rush.

I hate it.

[Angel]

defend with army and maybe a fort, defensive buildings are more of a soft deterrent rather than something to be very scared of in this game

[ShadowFox]

Originally posted by Merethys:

Build more infantry.

Buildings have been nerfed into the ground in Retold. Not worth the ressources. Just rush.

I hate it.

That is such a shame honestly! :( too many RTS games neglect the importance and value of defense. It already has a hard built in nerf of "you are investing X resources into this ONE position" which means your enemy can go around and harvest things on the map, or use siege weapons, or find a weaker position to attack your base from.

Do you know if there is any chance of them doing a balance rework and making defense viable again?

I understand the whole "titans walk through walls" thin its pretty annoying but a titan is supposed to basically be a game ender but walls and towers 100% should be able to stop regular troops imo

[Arimanius]

I think they can't let all that as is on the long run, they'll have to rework a lot of things, defense structures among those. Towers are cardboard while walls are merely embellishment and only fortresses are worth to be build, this simply isn't viable.

[BJ]

Devs dont like the boom defensive meta when players are engage to build trade and self defense. They want to more agro meta and put you on the map... i guess....

[ShadowFox]

Originally posted by BJ:

Devs dont like the boom defensive meta when players are engage to build trade and self defense. They want to more agro meta and put you on the map... i guess....

I hate that a lot, we have soo many god powers, titans, wonders, siege weapons etc and almost all other RTS games use that hyper aggro boring gameplay loop. AOM and AOE were the best ones for a long time BECAUSE defense was viable

[armbarchris]

Pretend walls and towers don't exist and just build troops.

Like all RTS these days the devs here are hostile to casual players and any kind of strat that doesn't cater to crackhead Esports addicts. I hate it so much.

[ShadowFox]

Originally posted by armbarchris:

Pretend walls and towers don't exist and just build troops.

Like all RTS these days the devs here are hostile to casual players and any kind of strat that doesn't cater to crackhead Esports addicts. I hate it so much.

Honestly if I tried to play that way I would rather just uninstall the game lol I don't need another RTS like that

[armbarchris]

Originally posted by ShadowFox:

Originally posted by armbarchris:

Pretend walls and towers don't exist and just build troops.

Like all RTS these days the devs here are hostile to casual players and any kind of strat that doesn't cater to crackhead Esports addicts. I hate it so much.

Honestly if I tried to play that way I would rather just uninstall the game lol I don't need another RTS like that

I'm considering it.

[Suspicious Entity]

Idk what people are talking about my friend and I are turtle players and walls and towers always help us out. For Norse Odin is your best bet because of the minor god power that boosts wall and tower HP. Hades is a great tower and archer combo style of defense though its more better for defense in depth. Gaia is the MVP of turtle and macro with lush and garrisoned Arci

[ShadowFox]

Originally posted by Suspicious Entity:

Idk what people are talking about my friend and I are turtle players and walls and towers always help us out. For Norse Odin is your best bet because of the minor god power that boosts wall and tower HP. Hades is a great tower and archer combo style of defense though its more better for defense in depth. Gaia is the MVP of turtle and macro with lush and garrisoned Arci

What difficulty and maps do you usually play on? I've noticed that the level 1 walls are literally paper and 2 soldiers can break them down even if you have towers behind them

[The_Bitter_Quitter]

Originally posted by armbarchris:

Pretend walls and towers don't exist and just build troops.

Like all RTS these days the devs here are hostile to casual players and any kind of strat that doesn't cater to crackhead Esports addicts. I hate it so much.

Actually i find that stronger walls and towers were better for the lower tier players. It allowed them to fight off rushes and bunker down while their team who was hopefully better than them could put in some work.

In this game... you just get steamrolled by any idiot with an army bigger and better than yours with no wiggle room for improvisation. Towers aren't really worth building for their price. Id rather have 3 more archers on the field. In the last game a few towers were very difficult to overcome and often needed siege.

In this game a handful of hypastists even could take down a fleet of towers.

[sinsro]

The game is designed to force you to fight with units and not buildings, just use your resources to spam troops and forget walls and towers entirely. They are made of butter. Also, most ranged soldiers are crap as well. Just spam heroes and some healers, rush attacks early as the enemies buildings are also made of butter. So dont think he has a strong-hold, he has more of a butt-hold :P

[ShadowFox]

Originally posted by The_Bitter_Quitter:

Originally posted by armbarchris:

Pretend walls and towers don't exist and just build troops.

Like all RTS these days the devs here are hostile to casual players and any kind of strat that doesn't cater to crackhead Esports addicts. I hate it so much.

Actually i find that stronger walls and towers were better for the lower tier players. It allowed them to fight off rushes and bunker down while their team who was hopefully better than them could put in some work.

In this game... you just get steamrolled by any idiot with an army bigger and better than yours with no wiggle room for improvisation. Towers aren't really worth building for their price. Id rather have 3 more archers on the field. In the last game a few towers were very difficult to overcome and often needed siege.

In this game a handful of hypastists even could take down a fleet of towers.

Exactly, a tower SHOULD be stronger than 3 archers by far and should require siege tactics to overcome.

If I build a 25 foot tall stone tower and put 4 defenders in it why the heck would 2 goobers with swords be able to kill it?

[ShadowFox]

Originally posted by sinsro:

The game is designed to force you to fight with units and not buildings, just use your resources to spam troops and forget walls and towers entirely. They are made of butter. Also, most ranged soldiers are crap as well. Just spam heroes and some healers, rush attacks early as the enemies buildings are also made of butter. So dont think he has a strong-hold, he has more of a butt-hold :P

I 100% will just stop playing this game before I play like that lol
AOM and AOE is/was one of the few defense viable RTS games, if I wanted to play starcraft I would go do that