Will there be any demo version against A.I ?

[gimlikos84]

I want a demo version of this game , before I buy it

[J4MESOX4D]

Originalmente postado por R for Reload:

Originalmente postado por Burjis:

How would they've done that? Allowing players to play offline modes? Doesn't that defeat the purpose of a "stress test"?

yes it does
But he doesn't get that
Even know no other stress test has ever done what he is asking for.

I've already explained and justified that countless times and after my response yesterday, you knew perfectly well I was right. Even the AOE2:DE open technical stress test had a tutorial lmao!

I'm really not sure why you are so deeply offended about the prospect of newcomers being able to access a tutorial in an open test environment when it was available in the paid beta? Does it make you feel like your pre-order is worth less or are you scared that other people may have some practice and wont be so easily stomped?

Just trying to fathom where you obnoxious attitude is stemming from really.

[R for Reload]

Originalmente postado por J4MESOX4D:

Originalmente postado por R for Reload:

yes it does
But he doesn't get that
Even know no other stress test has ever done what he is asking for.

I've already explained and justified that countless times and after my response yesterday, you knew perfectly well I was right. Even the AOE2:DE open technical stress test had a tutorial lmao!

I'm really not sure why you are so deeply offended about the prospect of newcomers being able to access a tutorial in an open test environment when it was available in the paid beta? Does it make you feel like your pre-order is worth less or are you scared that other people may have some practice and wont be so easily stomped?

Just trying to fathom where you obnoxious attitude is stemming from really.

No souls game's stress tests had a tutorial.
The exception is not the rule kid.

[J4MESOX4D]

Originalmente postado por R for Reload:

Originalmente postado por J4MESOX4D:

I've already explained and justified that countless times and after my response yesterday, you knew perfectly well I was right. Even the AOE2:DE open technical stress test had a tutorial lmao!

I'm really not sure why you are so deeply offended about the prospect of newcomers being able to access a tutorial in an open test environment when it was available in the paid beta? Does it make you feel like your pre-order is worth less or are you scared that other people may have some practice and wont be so easily stomped?

Just trying to fathom where you obnoxious attitude is stemming from really.

No souls game's stress tests had a tutorial.
The exception is not the rule kid.

What the hell does souls games have to do with this? One of the worst comparisons I have ever seen. Some extraordinary reaching here.

So once again, why are you so against a 7 minute tutorial being included in an open test environment for new players with the intended gameplay being a 1v1 framework?

[Burjis]

Originalmente postado por J4MESOX4D:

Originalmente postado por R for Reload:

yes it does
But he doesn't get that
Even know no other stress test has ever done what he is asking for.

I've already explained and justified that countless times and after my response yesterday, you knew perfectly well I was right. Even the AOE2:DE open technical stress test had a tutorial lmao!

I'm really not sure why you are so deeply offended about the prospect of newcomers being able to access a tutorial in an open test environment when it was available in the paid beta? Does it make you feel like your pre-order is worth less or are you scared that other people may have some practice and wont be so easily stomped?

Just trying to fathom where you obnoxious attitude is stemming from really.

Don't get me wrong! I totally support the idea of a demo even though I've already bought the premium edition. I also think the 2 hours that steam allows for a game to be refunded is too short a time for someone to really try out a game. In my opinion, demos help draw more players to games that are actually good because people would have more incentive to try them before putting down their money.
I just don't think the Stress Test was a proper way of introducing the game to new players. The aim there was to actually make players to descend upon the servers en mass in a short amount of time. Any significant single player content would have been detrimental to that goal. A tutorial wouldn't hurt, but a tutorial is hardly a representative of a game like AoM nor would it prevent a player from getting stomped in multiplayer.

[R for Reload]

Originalmente postado por Burjis:

Originalmente postado por J4MESOX4D:

I've already explained and justified that countless times and after my response yesterday, you knew perfectly well I was right. Even the AOE2:DE open technical stress test had a tutorial lmao!

I'm really not sure why you are so deeply offended about the prospect of newcomers being able to access a tutorial in an open test environment when it was available in the paid beta? Does it make you feel like your pre-order is worth less or are you scared that other people may have some practice and wont be so easily stomped?

Just trying to fathom where you obnoxious attitude is stemming from really.

Don't get me wrong! I totally support the idea of a demo even though I've already bought the premium edition. I also think the 2 hours that steam allows for a game to be refunded is too short a time for someone to really try out a game. In my opinion, demos help draw more players to games that are actually good because people would have more incentive to try them before putting down their money.
I just don't think the Stress Test was a proper way of introducing the game to new players. The aim there was to actually make players to descend upon the servers en mass in a short amount of time. Any significant single player content would have been detrimental to that goal. A tutorial wouldn't hurt, but a tutorial is hardly a representative of a game like AoM nor would it prevent a player from getting stomped in multiplayer.

Demos are hard alot of games cant do demos.
Specially for AOM imo.
Dont wanna buy the game but want to try it?
its called the xbox game pass.

[ShadowFox]

Originalmente postado por gimlikos84:

I want a demo version of this game , before I buy it

The beta test allowed VS AI games. I did a bunch of those. The pathing was a bit wack and the AI would get confused by walls sometimes and even on separate teams they would focus on the human player but hopefully those issues are being rectified before full release

[ShadowFox]

Originalmente postado por R for Reload:

Originalmente postado por Burjis:

Don't get me wrong! I totally support the idea of a demo even though I've already bought the premium edition. I also think the 2 hours that steam allows for a game to be refunded is too short a time for someone to really try out a game. In my opinion, demos help draw more players to games that are actually good because people would have more incentive to try them before putting down their money.
I just don't think the Stress Test was a proper way of introducing the game to new players. The aim there was to actually make players to descend upon the servers en mass in a short amount of time. Any significant single player content would have been detrimental to that goal. A tutorial wouldn't hurt, but a tutorial is hardly a representative of a game like AoM nor would it prevent a player from getting stomped in multiplayer.

Demos are hard alot of games cant do demos.
Specially for AOM imo.
Dont wanna buy the game but want to try it?
its called the xbox game pass.

Had to chime in, demos are SUPER easy with modern technology the way it is. Just let people play for 30/60 minutes or something or give them one map they can play. If you can make demos for ps2 games on discs 20 years ago you can surely make a demo on modern hardware online only platforms like steam

[R for Reload]

Originalmente postado por AtlasXar:

Originalmente postado por R for Reload:

Demos are hard alot of games cant do demos.
Specially for AOM imo.
Dont wanna buy the game but want to try it?
its called the xbox game pass.

Had to chime in, demos are SUPER easy with modern technology the way it is. Just let people play for 30/60 minutes or something or give them one map they can play. If you can make demos for ps2 games on discs 20 years ago you can surely make a demo on modern hardware online only platforms like steam

Demos require effort to make, Effort that can go into make the game better
once again just pay for xbox game pass.

[Tux]

Originalmente postado por R for Reload:

Originalmente postado por Burjis:

I miss the old days when games actually had demos.

endless demo
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1162750/Songs_of_Syx/

The most endless of demos
https://store.steampowered.com/app/933110/Age_of_Empires_III_Definitive_Edition/

[Tux]

There probably won't be a demo for AOM:RE. I suggest buying it on Steam then refunding, or grab an xbox game pass for a dollarino to test the game out.

[R for Reload]

Originalmente postado por Tux:

Originalmente postado por R for Reload:

endless demo
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1162750/Songs_of_Syx/

The most endless of demos
https://store.steampowered.com/app/933110/Age_of_Empires_III_Definitive_Edition/

songs of syx let you play majority of the game through there demo.

[Tux]

Originalmente postado por R for Reload:

songs of syx let you play majority of the game through there demo.

Different approach. I can argue that a player can extract countless hours from the AOE3DE trial version.

The trial version provides access to a rotating roster of the full game's 16 civilizations to play freely in both single player and multiplayer games, a first look at the 'Blood' Story Mode campaign, the Algiers Historical Battle, along with the tutorial and The Art of War challenge missions to learn and master the game.

I played the hell of the OG AOE3 demo, and that one was limited to 2 static civilizations, 2 skirmish maps, and 2 campaign missions.

Either way, the point of a demo/trial is to test whether the game is to your liking. The AOE3DE trial achieves that and more.

[ZionPenumbra]

Originalmente postado por J4MESOX4D:

I also think it was silly to make the stress test public and not include a tutorial, a couple of campaign missions and the ability to 1v1 the AI. Can't be very enticing to prospective customers playing a test match and get steamrolled against an experienced player whilst not having much of a clue what was going on.

in the first closed beta test they did this. that is why people complained about the new voice actors.

[ZionPenumbra]

Originalmente postado por AtlasXar:

Originalmente postado por R for Reload:

Demos are hard alot of games cant do demos.
Specially for AOM imo.
Dont wanna buy the game but want to try it?
its called the xbox game pass.

Had to chime in, demos are SUPER easy with modern technology the way it is. Just let people play for 30/60 minutes or something or give them one map they can play. If you can make demos for ps2 games on discs 20 years ago you can surely make a demo on modern hardware online only platforms like steam

as someone who is in that space or has been. Yes its easy to do but they kinda are missing their window. They need to do it now if they want to do it.