New Pantheon Speculation

[megamatt1000]

Personally I think Aztecs are the most likely candidate since we've been taking about them since the days of Ensemble. Persian and Slavic would be nice too.

[Armilus]

Originally posted by jonoliveira12:

Originally posted by Armilus:

In the trailer, all other gods shown were major gods.
I also think he looks like Oceanus, but why show him among major gods? Does that mean they swap Uranos and Oceanus?

No, probably just threw him in there.

Again. Why him, and not Uranos? I know it's off topic. I'll drop it again. It just seems strange to me. They could have not put any god between Loki and Poseidon, or used a different major god instead. Why put just one minor god in a lineup that doesn't even include all Major gods (Set isn't in there, and neither is Hades)
I know he's only visible for like a couple frames, blink and you miss it, but making that takes at least two hours, so they must have thought something when doing that.

As I said, I drop it again...

[Narcissistic Cannibal]

Originally posted by Armilus:

In the trailer, all other gods shown were major gods.
I also think he looks like Oceanus, but why show him among major gods?

Exactly my thoughts.

[Ba'al]

Mesopotamia for me, or Phoenician.

[jonoliveira12]

Originally posted by Thor II:

Originally posted by jonoliveira12:

In any regard, Atlanteans always used Qechua architecture, with some Central American elements.

The Atlanteans take a very vague and obscure element from a lot of unrepresented mythology around the world and from this micro element of that mythology, some come and say that that is enough of this mythology.

Don't you like it when they say that the Celts are very similar to the Nordics, which is almost a consensus in pop culture and among the most uninformed, but you comes and does the same among with these supposed elements of these mythologies in the Atlanteans.

- Citizens and Gladiators are not even close to being the most important Roman elements. Where are the emperors, legionaries, centurions, senators, and other essential elements of the Roman republic and empire?

Ps: I'm against a Roman mythology on AOM RT, but what I said is a fact.

- Atlantean architecture may be loosely inspired by the Incas, but no one will immediately recognize as Inca, far away from the immediately recognizable Inca architecture of AOE 3, or all other mythologies already present in AOM.

Among other references to the mythology that the Atlanteans use small elements.

Edit:

Originally posted by jonoliveira12:

Depending on how the rework Chinese, we may get Persians. In EE, Chinese got both Immortals and Cataphracts, which left very little room for a Persians civ.

See, this is an example of one civilization taking essential elements from another to the point that it is almost impossible for it to be added.

I just gave him a taste of his own logic. I that so bad? I was raised to see it as a learning tool.

[Lord Milutin]

I am hoping for Maya civ.

[jonoliveira12]

Originally posted by Lord Milutin:

I am hoping for Maya civ.

Maya would be cool. Far more fitting with the other civs than Aztecs too.

[Trevor Reznik]

India, I'm just going with the one I think would make for the coolest Gods.

[megamatt1000]

Originally posted by Trevor Reznik:

India, I'm just going with the one I think would make for the coolest Gods.

Since Hinduism is one of the largest and most currently conservative religions in the world right now, I doubt they'd risk the controversy that Overwatch and Smite had over portraying Hindu gods. It's a shame, but I don't think that'd be high up on the list.

[Armilus]

The guys at Ensemble had a kind of rule for Age of Mythology pantheons, they clearly said no currently practiced religions. That automatically rules our Hinduism. I don't know if Microsoft follows that rule as well. And they did include the Leviathan with the Egyptians, so taking influence from currently practiced religions wasn't entirely off the table.
And given that Asatru is a recognized religion in Iceland, there might be a debate regarding the Norse...

[jonoliveira12]

Shame, because Hinduism is one of the 3 main influences for modern Fantasy, along with Greek and Celtic mythologies.

It would have been cool to get the big 3 in this game.

[G0ll0]

Indian is the most rich and interesting IMO, then Aztecs or Inca

[IEatCats]

Originally posted by Thor II:

See, this is an example of one civilization taking essential elements from another to the point that it is almost impossible for it to be added.

The Chinese human unit line up is some of the oddest in a while, we are not a cavalry focused civ, and the Cataphract just breaks the game balance wise especially if you are Norse

The Eight Immortals are Chinese hero units in the game, they can be renamed to something else or use the Persian name for Immortals to avoid confusion

[vORTEX]

im thinking they may stick too old world religions, so a Hindu pantheon or a Mesopotamians one
i dont see a roman one happening given they often adopted other cultures gods and made connections too there own
if one set in the Americas did happen, i would expect it too be Aztecs/Mayans/inca

[slifer87]

In my opinion Japanese are the best candidate for the second DLC for a couple of reasons.

First of all, since it is confirmed that the Chinese faction will be completely reworked to give China the expansion it deserves, my feeling is that the second DLC will introduce some continuity as it was for the Atlanteans with the original game, where the campaign was closely linked to the previous one. Japan would be perfect given its geographic proximity and Chinese influence in its history, so I expect the campaign to cover two such close cultures.

The second reason is that in my opinion the release of the two DLCs will be quite close considering that they are already sold as part of a premium version of the game. Probably both the remake of the 4 factions and the two DLCs are being developed together, and having two neighboring factions from the Asian region introduced in the game almost at the same time could be a winning sales strategy in the short term in that region.

The third reason is that I don't expect a culture to be immediately introduced as a second expansion that is too different (see the Aztecs, who lacked cavalry and siege weapons) or too similar (Celts because too similar to the Norse, and the Romans too similar to Greeks and Atlanteans) to any of the existing former factions. I expect that Chinese and Japanese factions will not deviate too much from the original gameplay, while when the time comes, with future expansions the developers will be able to experiment with something innovative by introducing new unique cultures but always in pairs, so that continuity can always be guaranteed. After China and Japan, some obvious choices might be the Romans and Celts, or the Aztecs and Mayans. All cultures that in some way coexisted and influenced each other, giving developers the opportunity to build an epic story around them as was the case for AoM first and then The Titans.

This is just my thought, I will probably be wrong about everything and we will immediately have the Aztecs who are the ones I would most like to see in the game.

[Armilus]

I see two contradicting statements here.
"Celts and Romans won't be added, since they're too similar to Greek and Norse respectively"
For one, and for the other "Japanese make sense because of the Chinese"
I cannot tell an old Japanese building from an old Chinese building from looking at it alone. I don't know what distincts japanese classical architecture from Chinese classical architecture. But I can tell Greek and Roman buildings apart. That's probably partially because I am an European with Italian ancestry. I learned that kind of stuff as a teen. For a Chinese or Japanese person, I can imagine that they wouldn't mistake Chinese from Japanese buildings, but couldn't tell apart Roman from Greek ones.

If Romans are too similar to Greeks, and Celts are too similar to Norse, then Japanese are also too similar to Chinese.