Suiko1 Viktor rune piece opinion.

[Zeo]

Hi, I was thinking if I will use Double Beat or Killer for his endgame setup, but I didn't remembered that his accuracy sucks balls! Getting counters from bosses really hurts and he almost killed himself against Sonya (actually he died once due counters).

So I was in doubt between Wind and other offensive ones (lightning, earth, etc), I don't think that it's worth to put water on him since his defense is very high and only magical attacks hurts.

Thanks.

[Tyrant]

You can alternatively put Clone on him and the Dragon Incense, and then just alternate between clone attacking and using the dragon incense to heal during the off-balance state. He's not a very good user of spell attack runes, he doesn't have a high ability count. That said, combat in this game is also trivial even on Hard, so it really doesn't matter either way.

[Zeo]

Originally posted by Tyrant:

You can alternatively put Clone on him and the Dragon Incense, and then just alternate between clone attacking and using the dragon incense to heal during the off-balance state. He's not a very good user of spell attack runes, he doesn't have a high ability count. That said, combat in this game is also trivial even on Hard, so it really doesn't matter either way.

Yeah it's more of a min/max on my part, I really can't tell the difference between the game on normal or hard, at least early on.

[weiss]

i´d recomment counter or the crit rune o3o.

[Zeo]

Originally posted by Zeo:

Yeah it's more of a min/max on my part, I really can't tell the difference between the game on normal or hard, at least early on.

Well enemies have more HP, so no Kai union attack cheesing and they deal more HP, actually those that can attack the back row are very deadly, but I still don't have too many options to deal with all the situations and I'm forced to have Gremio with me.

I think it will be very challenging for a first timer player.

[Ederwolf]

Well, I gave double beat to fu su lu (whose accuracy is just as bad or worse) and he still fared really well with it and killer to Viktor. Both ended up racking up a lot of damage per turn

[Rambit]

i dont recommend double beat on him. i suggest using killer rune.

[Captain Steve]

I've always stuck clone on him. Always hits, gives a chance to heal, and can attack from back row.

[Zeo]

Originally posted by Captain Steve:

I've always stuck clone on him. Always hits, gives a chance to heal, and can attack from back row.

I only use Clone until I have access to Killer (my first killer I give to Gremio), I think it's a waste of DPS because when he crits he hits harder than Valeria.

Originally posted by Tyrant:

You can alternatively put Clone on him and the Dragon Incense, and then just alternate between clone attacking and using the dragon incense to heal during the off-balance state.

Dragon Incense isn't wasted after use? I never used because I thought it was a single use item.

[Rambit]

Originally posted by Captain Steve:

I've always stuck clone on him. Always hits, gives a chance to heal, and can attack from back row.

that is what i call Ol reliable. i didnt do it this time around simply because i did it every other time in my life. ol reliable 100%

[Zeo]

Well if someone stumbles at this post in the future, I did my tests:

Victor with Double Beat sucks, he still misses a lot and I have a occurrence of him hitting twice, missing twice and getting countered twice lol! I gave all the DEX Rune Pieces that I found to him and he's using Master Garb.

So far I found him better with the Killer rune because they payoff is huge and it's not that rare, the Dragon Incense thing with the Clone rune also was interesting but I say it's better for the normal mode, because healing only 50 doesn't matter for bosses and Victor himself usually get hit for more than 200 since he's super weak to magic.

Victor isn't a good character in Suiko 1, sadly, the devs nerfed his DEX way too much.

My endgame party was Flik+Victor (mandatory), Valeria (a beast, best character of the game), Eileen (highly underrated) and Cleo for the Beauty Attack (which makes enemies lose a turn without drawback).
Used Mother Earth on Eileen and Cyclone rune on Cleo (the strongest rune in the game, I honestly thought about put my entire party with this rune), Flik I upgraded Lightning for Thunder and gave him 2 emblems.
Mother Earth have some sick AOEs at lv1 that we don't need to use for bosses, so it's perfect for clearing mobs, but I suspect that the Beauty Attack can deal with everything on Normal, sadly I only used those 3 starting Shasarazade but if someday I do another run I will try this team early.

Also Cleo can easily be swapped for Crowley or Luc, they have so many lv1 rune energy that makes auto attacks redundant.

Edit: oh and weapon rune pieces are a total waste of time, you guys was 100% right.

[Action-Bastard]

Elaborate on the Cyclone rune for me. What makes it the best in your opinion? I never thought much of it in S1 (much better in S2 of course). I stuck a rage rune on Cleo.

[Zeo]

Originally posted by Action-Bastard:

Elaborate on the Cyclone rune for me. What makes it the best in your opinion? I never thought much of it in S1 (much better in S2 of course). I stuck a rage rune on Cleo.

Strong attacks, all AOE (less for the first level) and lv4 also DMG and heal and it combos with Earth.

I never had to look for healing items and played at ease, but if you put on a character with low MGC they won't will have much MP and maybe you will feel pressured to use magic only on bosses.

[Zeo]

My first Cleo was with Flowing, but I noticed that I wasn't using because Cyclone was damaging and healing at the same time lol.

[Action-Bastard]

Ah I follow you now. I had Rubi in my back row with a Flowing rune for healing.

[Tenshu]

I had Clone w/Dragon Incense and then Double Beat once I got him two Main Gauches and Master's Garb.