Suikoden Star Leap

[Ray Rook]

Mobile game... they got the wrong message and the next Suikoden release that isn't a port remaster or remake is going to be a mobile game.

[war_lion108]

In the presentation slide where they listed all the announcements, this game is referred to as "mobile ver." which could imply other versions later.

[Knight]

The devs should bring to Android
Final Fantasy 12
Crisis Core
Suikoden 1-2
Lunar 1-2
Etc

[El Nasr]

Urghhh....Mobile?

Oh Flame burn them!!!!

[S!lent]

Knight původně napsal:

The devs should bring to Android
Final Fantasy 12
Crisis Core
Suikoden 1-2
Lunar 1-2
Etc

FF XII, Crisis Core, and Lunar are from different developers entirely.

[hush]

Ray Rook původně napsal:

Vex původně napsal:

Hrmn...

On the one hand, I quite mobile games ages ago when it became obvious you're expected to shill out cash to keep up.

On the other hand, this is a Suikoden game, and would potentially be worth the struggle...

Granted, I doubt it'll be global, so that probably takes the choice of playing it or not out of my hands anyways. I'm sure Culgan will be able to keep up with it and provide lore videos for us lazy people who don't have the will to translate it ourselves.

(Edit): Awwwww damnit. Star Leap features the True Rune of Change. The rune held by the leader of the Sindar... Now I WANT this to be available globally...

Do they usually give games English titles and not release them globally?

yes many japanese mobile games has english titles and don't release their games globally simultaneously. they usually release in japan first, then asia, if it reaches critical mass then worldwide

[Unespecified]

A port to Steam would be nice..

[Feinne]

My dislike of gacha trash out does my love for Suikoden.

[Ray Rook]

Feinne původně napsal:

My dislike of gacha trash out does my love for Suikoden.

[S!lent]

Feinne původně napsal:

My dislike of gacha trash out does my love for Suikoden.

Gachapon themselves aren't bad. It's how they're implemented. If it's mandatory that they be purchased to play the game normally then that is obviously not the way to go. With what little information we were given through the interview its a given that were are getting whole new cast of 108 stars in this game. Another thing they mentioned was that they were careful to not disturb the established continuity. So having a number of these past characters meet in this story would obviously ruin the continuity of Suikoden I where some of them meet for the first time. This would mean that characters that appeared in the previous games will merely be making cameo appearances and some may even be temporary allies. Now here is where the gachapon come in. They said that you could create a dream team of characters of past games. I am going to bet that you'll need to purchase gachas to gain these characters as permanent allies. So while we did see those past characters featured in the trailer they are technically not part of the Stars of Destiny.

[lunasmeow]

They aren't "not getting" the message, they're IGNORING the message. The studios care about ONE thing, and that thing is MONEY. Mobile games are where the money is. Cheap graphics, no product, rake in case on "energy" and selling multiples of the same exact item for "upgraded versions" and also gambling "gacha" mechanics instead of selling an item directly.

It isn't that they don't know we don't play mobile, it's the other way around. They KNOW we don't play mobile, and are ACTIVELY TRYING TO BAIT US with "brand recognition" in order to rake in the cash on their gaming casino.

They're basically trying to force us into the casino by saying "If you want this series, you have to come here to get it!"

They know. They know DAMN WELL that we aren't playing mobile games. That's the PROBLEM that they're trying to "fix".

[Vex]

lunasmeow původně napsal:

Cheap graphics, no product, rake in case on "energy" and selling multiples of the same exact item for "upgraded versions" and also gambling "gacha" mechanics instead of selling an item directly.

See, this is what I'm waiting to see regarding Suikoden Star Leap.

Going by the existing games and their mechanics, there isn't much room for gacha mechanics outside of characters.

I mean, what are they going to do? Have Rune Draws for crystals?

Fire Crystal, 1 Star.
Rage Crystal, 2 Star.
True Fire Crystal, 3 Star.

What's next? True Rage Crystal at 4 Star? Super Omega Ultra fire Crystal at 5 star?

At most I could see them inventing a whole lot of runes over time that introduce power creep, but if they're exclusive to characters (like the True Runes would be), then you simply get them by getting the characters, one would imagine.

[1stReaper]

Ray Rook původně napsal:

Mobile game... they got the wrong message and the next Suikoden release that isn't a port remaster or remake is going to be a mobile game.

wait....what.........
noooo............ when i saw that there was a new suikoden game coming out i almost jumped out of my skin....

but if its a mobile game.................. (sighs)

[Yonniboi]

This is my only gripe. I hope they eventually port it to PC, or any other console, because playing any game on mobile sends me.

aHHHHH

[Owlcoholic]

I was pretty pissed to see it was a mobile game too, but from what info I've been able to find it seems like it's basically on par with a full Suikoden release. Free to play, you can go all the way through it, get all 108 characters etc. The paid part is basically gacha for characters from previous suikoden games so you can make dream teams. Also it's a prequel to Suikoden 1, will features Flik, Victor Odessa and others. I do hope it gets ported to PC eventually too.

The important thing to remember is that the HD remaster was step one in their 3 step plan to revive the franchise. It sold well higher than expected so they are doing step 2 which is the mobile game, a manga and an anime series. If all those go well then step 3 will be a full continuation of the series, so I'm guessing new mainline titles and potentially remasters of the rest of the series too.

I don't want to get my hopes up too much but I can't lie that I'm pretty excited for the future now!

[1stReaper]

Owlcoholic původně napsal:

Free to play,

up until they decide to kill the game like many many many MANY other mobile games ='(

....well... heres HOPING!!! with every fiber of my being, that the game comes to console/steam

that way it "could" be buyable AND.... playable in offline mode and not having to worry about google play or whatever deleting the game =/


then ofcourses theres the whole gecha crap where you just KNOW some of the stars will be paid for content =/